BuffaloBills1998 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/10/12/arthur-blank-doesnt-commit-to-matt-ryan-moving-forward/ looks like the jets got some competition on getting Lawrence. Edited October 13, 2020 by BuffaloBills1998 Change of title 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I was looking at his contract yesterday... 2 years left as not sure they will be able to trade him.. Also, the Falcons aren’t as bad as the Jets.. .so they May need to be looking at someone else.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Quote But that will be a decision that I won’t make. He is just saying he will let a football person make decision. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Trey Lance! They won't be bad enough to get Lawrence or Fields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Ryan is 35, if you had the chance to get Lawrence, why wouldn't you. On the other hand with Ryan at QB, the team could play too well to get the #1 overall. Best they could do would be bench Ryan so they lose more, but that would be a tough move to make. Could try and trade him at the deadline, but likely they'd get a much better offer in the off season if they wait. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 We may see a level of tanking that is unmistakable in December. Lawrence is a generational can’t miss number one like an Elway or Luck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: We may see a level of tanking that is unmistakable in December. Lawrence is a generational can’t miss number one like an Elway or Luck. He's that good? Don't get me wrong, he is a talented QB, I just don't know if he's a prototype. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 He seems a worthy Number 1 but not putting him in the Hall of Fame yet... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Cut Ryan, draft a QB, and sign Taylor as your bridge quarterback. Apparently your rookie QB will be phenomenal their first season. 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 He has too much guaranteed money to be cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said: Trey Lance! They won't be bad enough to get Lawrence or Fields. Started watching some of his tape the other day. I don’t think I’ve saw any other QB stare down WRs like he does. I’m really surprised he puts up the stats he does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Cut Ryan, draft a QB, and sign Taylor as your bridge quarterback. Apparently your rookie QB will be phenomenal their first season. If they cut him in 2021 he creates 49.9M of dead cap space. In 2022 it's still 26.5M. 2023 is the easiest out at 8.6M. None of that says they can't or won't draft a QB but it does suggest that Ryan will be a Falcon until at least 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) Falcons, Giants and Jets will all take Trevor Lawrence at 1. I wish we had the Jets final game of the year again, with the option to hand them a cheap W. Edited October 13, 2020 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, Limeaid said: He is just saying he will let a football person make decision. he just fired them all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: If they cut him in 2021 he creates 49.9M of dead cap space. In 2022 it's still 26.5M. 2023 is the easiest out at 8.6M. None of that says they can't or won't draft a QB but it does suggest that Ryan will be a Falcon until at least 2022. You're right. I didn't realize he still had that many years left on his contract and I don't see them trading away that contract. That will be a problem for whoever the next regime is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I mean why would he? Ryan puts up numbers but where haa that really gotten them recently? Reminds me of Kirk Cousins in a lot of ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 29 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Ryan is 35, if you had the chance to get Lawrence, why wouldn't you. On the other hand with Ryan at QB, the team could play too well to get the #1 overall. Best they could do would be bench Ryan so they lose more, but that would be a tough move to make. Could try and trade him at the deadline, but likely they'd get a much better offer in the off season if they wait. All points to Ryan becoming the Patriots QB...He is more suited to their system than Cam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, ganesh said: All points to Ryan becoming the Patriots QB...He is more suited to their system than Cam Yeah that wouldn't be a bad choice, needs a team that is close to winning, just needs better QB play. Though hard to knock what Cam has done so far. But who knows behind the scenes how happy Belichick is with Cam. Think Atlanta has better weapons though tan NE. By the time you pay Ryan, would there be enough money left to get him better weapons too?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Arthur Blank is not committing to being above ground through 2021... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 32 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Cut Ryan, draft a QB, and sign Taylor as your bridge quarterback. Apparently your rookie QB will be phenomenal their first season. You mean sign Fitz? Seems to be part of his cycle these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Ryan is 35, if you had the chance to get Lawrence, why wouldn't you. On the other hand with Ryan at QB, the team could play too well to get the #1 overall. Best they could do would be bench Ryan so they lose more, but that would be a tough move to make. Could try and trade him at the deadline, but likely they'd get a much better offer in the off season if they wait. Age only factors in because Ryan is Ryan and not Tom Brady. Ryan can go no further than he has as a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: Age only factors in because Ryan is Ryan and not Tom Brady. Ryan can go no further than he has as a QB. Can't get any better?? Agree Can't play a few more years at current level Disagree He's looked good, could see him playing a few more years and looking good at it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 He grew up like an hour from Atlanta too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Bring him in to back up Josh after he's cut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 50 minutes ago, SCBills said: Falcons, Giants and Jets will all take Trevor Lawrence at 1. I wish we had the Jets final game of the year again, with the option to hand them a cheap W. I can see putting Barkley in with instructions to throw a pick six on every play. Why not? 🤷♂️ Could be the funniest thing EVER in the NFL! I hope the Jet’s DB’s would have too much pride to just knock it down. Goodell may have to earn that mountain of cash every year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Matt Ryan is spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I agree Ryan is spent. But you can argue he’s never been all that great. Guy has ran what seems like 10 different offensive playbooks as much as they’ve switch coordinators. He’s been good in 1-2 of those systems. They can win now (meaning next year) I think they still have a tiny window with Ryan Julio and Ridley and even Gurley looking back to form a little. If the new regime can coach defense and groom a quarterback they’re not in nearly as bad of shape as some of these other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I trade Julio by the deadline this season and Ryan at the opening of FA. They should be right their for Lawerence or Fields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: he just fired them all. And then he and McKay will hire new ones and they’ll make the decision on ryan 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: He's that good? Don't get me wrong, he is a talented QB, I just don't know if he's a prototype. I think he’s the prototype as well. Not sure I’ve seen a prospect that had it all like him as a freshman. Last year was a disappointment but I still see his “it” factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: He grew up like an hour from Atlanta too. I’ve been around my peeps at the park, in stores, texting and calling all day. Not a single mention of the Falcons changes. If this was UGA or Tech, I think it would have come up at least a few times. I’m sure you have had more conversations with more people. Has the Falcons changes come up much? . Edited October 13, 2020 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Augie said: I’ve been around my peeps at the park, in stores, texting and calling all day. Not a single mention of the Falcons changes. If this was UGA or Tech, I think it would have come up at least a few times. I’m sure you have had more conversations with more people. Has the Falcons changes come up much? . I don’t even know of there are Falcon fans in Atlanta. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddiegoofball Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 This reminds me a little of when we traded a first for a running on empty Drew Bledsoe in 2003. Someone who thinks they are a quarterback away is gonna trade a 1st rounder for Ryan in the offseason... and regret it a few years later. Thank goodness we have Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I don’t even know of there are Falcon fans in Atlanta. If that happens in Buffalo, people wouldn’t talk about the building across the street that was burning down. “Did you hear? Who do we get?” They would be shouting over the sounds of the sirens. CRAZY how different things are from city to city. . Edited October 13, 2020 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Charles Romes said: We may see a level of tanking that is unmistakable in December. Lawrence is a generational can’t miss number one like an Elway or Luck. Ehhh he is definently talented but so far in his career he has been a huge disappointment. He has been really good dont get me wrong but he is not what everyone expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemsonBills Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: Ehhh he is definently talented but so far in his career he has been a huge disappointment. He has been really good dont get me wrong but he is not what everyone expected. Disappointment how? Kid beat arguably the best squad Saban has had at Alabama as a true freshman earning MVP as well. Then another championship game his sophomore year, albeit a loss. 29-1 record, 76 passing touchdowns to 12 ints, throw in another 14 rushing... sounds like a huge disappointment... Wouldn’t you kill for any Syracuse QB to have these stats? 😂😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Doc Brown said: You're right. I didn't realize he still had that many years left on his contract and I don't see them trading away that contract. That will be a problem for whoever the next regime is. Hey no sympathy, they had their window of SB readiness , got there and were crushing the Pats in the SB, then blew it. So they had their shot. Its over now., time to rebulid again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Mark Vader said: He's that good? Don't get me wrong, he is a talented QB, I just don't know if he's a prototype. This. I'm not sure he's that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: I was looking at his contract yesterday... 2 years left as not sure they will be able to trade him.. Also, the Falcons aren’t as bad as the Jets.. .so they May need to be looking at someone else.. This is true. The dead cap would be enormous if they get rid of him before 2023 without some kind of restructure. I had said I thought he would end up in SF, but that was before looking at this contract. I don't see any way financially they could move him unless there is some kind of massive restructure involved to lessen the hit. The Falcons are another team that has handed out some really questionable contracts at times over recent years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Lawrence grew up less than an hour outside of Atlanta, from a marketing standpoint for the team it would be a bonanza to draft him. As others have mentioned, it seems financially impossible to move Ryan. But I would have to believe both Dallas and Washington and maybe San Fran and Chicago would be interested. Personally I think Ryan is just about washed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I think the comment blew up a bit more than needed. An owner saying he isn’t in charge of personnel decisions isn’t all that noteworthy. I’d be surprised if they ditch him this year unless they have the #1 pick which I dont think they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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