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Neither is an insurmountable loss. Moss hasnt done much, might see Yeldon catch a few passes. Just means we get to feed Devin. 

 

At least Knox wont be out there to drop passes or fumble. 

Just now, LeGOATski said:

Knox is kind of a blow. Hopefully Kroft can step up and stay healthy.

 

Moss is meh. Does that mean Yeldon plays?

 

Uptick for Gilliam id imagine too

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1 minute ago, LeGOATski said:

Knox is kind of a blow. Hopefully Kroft can step up and stay healthy.

 

Moss is meh. Does that mean Yeldon plays?

I hope so, I might be alone, but he’s always been pretty good catching the football. I don’t mind himswinging out to the flats.

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Moss has underwhelmed so far, but did have that nice TD catch week 1. As a runner I haven't been impressed. Knox is a loss from a bit of a match up perspective..... but hopefully the Bills can get through this week without him.

 

If I had to give up Moss and Knox to get Milano and Edmunds back I would.

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Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

Knox is super important to how our offense is run. He fills a nice H-Back roll. Kroft CANNOT fill that roll. Its not about pass catching. Its about how Knox lines up all over, and can block from numerous spots on the filed--Kroft just cannot do that. 

 

Agree. They would have to use Gilliam for that.

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Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

Knox is super important to how our offense is run. He fills a nice H-Back roll. Kroft CANNOT fill that roll. Its not about pass catching. Its about how Knox lines up all over, and can block from numerous spots on the filed--Kroft just cannot do that. 

 

Agreed, I think they use Gilliam in some of those looks this week. 

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Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

Agree. They would have to use Gilliam for that.

 

Just now, PaattMaann said:

 

Agreed, I think they use Gilliam in some of those looks this week. 

 

Gilliam is our only option. My problem is that Gilliam is NOT a very good blocker. This makes our offense less dynamic. I suspect by a wide margin, but we won't know for sure until Sunday. 

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4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Also Phillips 

 

 


And the hits just keep on coming. Ugh. 
 

While I know many are down on Knox, I see him as rather valuable and believe this could have been a big game for him. Sucks he’s out. 
 

If Yeldon hits the field, I will be interested to see how Daboll works him into the game plan as he’s wicked dangerous catching out of the backfield (hearkening back to his Bama days). 

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5 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

Knox is super important to how our offense is run. He fills a nice H-Back roll. Kroft CANNOT fill that roll. Its not about pass catching. Its about how Knox lines up all over, and can block from numerous spots on the filed--Kroft just cannot do that. 

 

Was Knox in there the last two drives, during crunch time, that resulted in TD's against Miami?

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Not sure Moss will be missed a lot i think McD & company want him in to get as many reps as possible for them to see what he's got but i hope Knox can make it back soon i think he will be a bigger part of Dabols plan on offense .

 

Weldon is more than capable to fill in & may even be better than Moss seeing as he knows the offense & while sitting on the bench is more than likely chomping at the bit to get out & make some plays in this higher powered offense this year .

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16 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

 

Gilliam is our only option. My problem is that Gilliam is NOT a very good blocker. This makes our offense less dynamic. I suspect by a wide margin, but we won't know for sure until Sunday. 

 

How do you know he isnt a good blocker? Where is the film on this that you are basing/judging this from?

 

Edit: Im not saying you are wrong with this claim, I just dont know where you are seeing this proof because I personally haven't.

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that means Milano and Edmunds are in or game time decisions at the very least...Dodson playing some or more is not a concern based on the Fins game

this is Moss second injury (toe) his first was a neck injury during training camp where he missed several days...way too early to categorize as injury prone, but...he did miss significant time in college due to injury and his run-to-and-thru-contact style does concern me

 

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24 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Moss has underwhelmed so far, but did have that nice TD catch week 1. As a runner I haven't been impressed. Knox is a loss from a bit of a match up perspective..... but hopefully the Bills can get through this week without him.

 

If I had to give up Moss and Knox to get Milano and Edmunds back I would.

 

Yeah - Moss has been thinking too much.  Just do what got you here and play football.  

2 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

We have a chance if Yeldon’s fumbles can be limited to 1

 

He has 6 fumbles in over 600 touches.  Singletary has 4 in 200 touches, and i don't even want to get into Allens fumbling.  This narrative is a bit played out.  

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2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:


Why would you have a fullback on your team that can’t block?

 

#1 Gilliam is listed as a TE, not a fullback.  Maybe there's a reason for that?

#2 TE differ in their blocking vs pass catching abilities

 

His blocking may very well improve, but most rookies seem to have a learning curve around the speed and power of the NFL game.

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26 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

 

How do you know he isnt a good blocker? Where is the film on this that you are basing/judging this from?

 

Edit: Im not saying you are wrong with this claim, I just dont know where you are seeing this proof because I personally haven't.


That’s a fair question.  Gilliam played H back in college (albeit at a small school) so he has experience.  Unproven at the NFL level?  Sure.  Incapable at the NFL level?  Dunno yet.  Let’s give him a chance first. 

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34 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

Kind of makes the Croom release a bit strange, no? You'd think they would have liked him for pass catching depth while Knox was out.

Croom would’ve got Allen killed in this game. I would rather scour the PS of other teams or us a big WR as a TE before Croom. I’m guessing that not one team signs this guy to their PS. 

6 minutes ago, ytownblofan said:

*Patiently waiting for someone to ask "Does this mean Wade gets carries, we need to call him up and see what he can do" or something to that effect*

I would actually rather see Wade then Yeldon. 

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58 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Moss has underwhelmed so far, but did have that nice TD catch week 1. As a runner I haven't been impressed. Knox is a loss from a bit of a match up perspective..... but hopefully the Bills can get through this week without him.

 

If I had to give up Moss and Knox to get Milano and Edmunds back I would.

 

Moss averaged 4.6 YPC against Dolphins.  Not sure why people are saying he’s under whelmed, he’s barely had a chance to get going or find a rhythm.  
 

End of day, there is only one football.  Josh leads the NFL in passing yards, hard to also have a second string RB also make a big statistical impact too.  
 

I think Moss has looked good in his limited touches. 

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