DrDawkinstein Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: So we’re named after an honorary Private who wasn’t even really a member of the military and who’s big claim to fame was running a live theatrical show? I think I might actually want the name to be changed now...... For real. I'm actually all for the name being changed. Not for anything PC related, but because it's pretty much the cheesiest name in all of pro sports. The team mascot is actually the city name? And WTF is a "Bill" if you didnt have the context of American history? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: Actually he was a scout not a soldier ..and he was in general friendly to native americans and felt they were unjustly treated. I actually wish we had a better name, but not because Buffalo Bill did anything wrong. But as someone said riling up the crowd leads to ratings no matter how faulty the info. I actually called him a scout in my last post. He wasn't even technically in the army He was a civilian scout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, The Wiz said: The name "Buffalo Bills" is actually ironic since he got his nickname for killing the most buffalo in a contest against Bill Comstock of the usage of the nickname "Buffalo Bill". Cody killed 68 and Comstock killed 48 in an 8 hour contest. Right. It's a strange name for so many reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: For real. I'm actually all for the name being changed. Not for anything PC related, but because it's pretty much the cheesiest name in all of pro sports. The team mascot is actually the city name? And WTF is a "Bill" if you didnt have the context of American history? A bill is an American dollar And we are the Buffalo Bills because we make it rain! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: No, I'm saying there's no indication anywhere of what "Bills" means -- except old game programs from the '60s Did he really think that? Might as well be the Buffalo Bobs We'd need a far more Polish ethnic name than Bob. Maybe the Stanleys? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Did he really think that? Might as well be the Buffalo Bobs I don't know if he really believed it (he had a good sense of humor...died way too young!), but it worked for me. I never made the Bill Cody until the 80's, seeing some of the old programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 I've read the posts and agree with the ludicrousness of the name change idea. I just worry about it. In these times today's stupid idea is tomorrow's reality. Really stupid *****, such as defunding Cops is taking place. What prevents name change hysteria? I'm a bit pissed at the talk show host--giving useless protesters ideas. He has even thrown Millard Fillmore hospital under the bus. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 If this the path he wants to go down There are probably other teams in line before the Bills. Chiefs self explanatory Buccaneers were pirates that pillaged the seas Vikings plundered and raped as they pleased Cowboys fought with Indians and took their land 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: For real. I'm actually all for the name being changed. Not for anything PC related, but because it's pretty much the cheesiest name in all of pro sports. The team mascot is actually the city name? And WTF is a "Bill" if you didnt have the context of American history? The Cleveland Browns, LA Clippers, LA Lakers, and Utah Jazz all beg to differ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Buffalo Skis or Buffaloskis? I'd vote for either 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Anyone who wants to see the Buffalo Bills change their name is not a Bills fan. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marky Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, Rico said: Anyone who wants to see the Buffalo Bills change their name is not a Bills fan. Buffalo Niagara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Buffalo Skis or Buffaloskis? I'd vote for either Buffalo tobbagans If you know the joke, you'll get it. Edited July 13, 2020 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) Thanks, Obama. (Has Bauerle blamed him yet?) Edited July 13, 2020 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, boater said: Listening to the windbag live right now. He's saying the Buffalo Bills may be up next to change their name. Rationale: They are named after Buffalo Bill Cody who murdered many Native Americans. I hope the Bills don't change their name. (it's 930 AM, or WBEN on radio.com) LOL this is a huge stretch. We have many Native American reservations located in Western, NY. I’ve never heard one publicly voice a complaint over the name or the way that the organization has presented it. Also it’s not like Buffalo Bill Cody has any presence in the stadium or relation to the team other than in name 16 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: If this the path he wants to go down There are probably other teams in line before the Bills. Chiefs self explanatory Buccaneers were pirates that pillaged the seas Vikings plundered and raped as they pleased Cowboys fought with Indians and took their land Also the Patriots. Because many of our forefathers, including John Hancock in MA, owned slaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Packers should change their name too. I cringe to think what they're namesake has been abusing all these years.? Seriously though, all teams will be names after birds and cats before too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Reading a write up on him, seems like he was a pretty progressive leaning dude. thought Women should be allowed to do do any job they wanted for equal pay, employed native Americans... PETA might have an issue with him as he killed thousands of buffalos, which is ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, beavis said: Buffalo Niagara. You have been accordingly labeled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Bill The good news is he was a Union soldier, so we pass there. The bad news is he served the military in the Indian Wars. But I dont see anyone going that far. Big difference between this and "Red Skins". He also was apparently a known conservationist who advocated for a hunting season. Which might seem weird considering what he's known for, but at the same time kind of makes sense when you think about him having a front row seat to the results of out of control hunting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: I don't believe Buffalo Bill Cody murdered many native Americans he was a civil war soldier, and created Buffalo Bill's wild West show which had natives in prominent roles Prominent roles of exploitation? Sounds eerily like the NFL.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma Pecoraro Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Buffalo Soljas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I think after they see the windfall Snyder gets from this name change nonsense, there might be some low key lookout for controversy by the Pegulas. Maybe even in this day and age, some behind the scenes funding to get the controversy started. If they can get enough traction to bow to the artificial pressure to reluctantly change the name and make millions, I hope they consider a more generic geographic title, like Upstate or something that recognizes the Rochester influence. Kind of like New England as apposed to Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: The Cleveland Browns, LA Clippers, LA Lakers, and Utah Jazz all beg to differ. The Jazz at least made sense when the team was formed ... in New Orleans. Definitely should have been changed when they moved, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: He also was apparently a known conservationist who advocated for a hunting season. Which might seem weird considering what he's known for, but at the same time kind of makes sense when you think about him having a front row seat to the results of out of control hunting. Yeah, he was pretty progressive for his time, actually. Is he just pulling the "murdered many Native Americans" thing out of his butt? He's known for killing Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Cancel culture is soooo fun! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I thought they were named "Bills" after the male Bison being called a "Billy." Basically, the team name was "Buffalo Male Bison." I suppose there could be a sexism argument about not including female Bison in the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, boater said: Listening to the windbag live right now. He's saying the Buffalo Bills may be up next to change their name. Rationale: They are named after Buffalo Bill Cody who murdered many Native Americans. I hope the Bills don't change their name. (it's 930 AM, or WBEN on radio.com) They read too many inane posts on TBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Momma Pecoraro said: Buffalo Soljas Only if you change the colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, boater said: Listening to the windbag live right now. He's saying the Buffalo Bills may be up next to change their name. Rationale: They are named after Buffalo Bill Cody who murdered many Native Americans. I hope the Bills don't change their name. (it's 930 AM, or WBEN on radio.com) Why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 50 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Weak I didn’t say that I wanted it or expected it. Just said I’m not going to whine about it. As long as they stay in Buffalo I can deal with a name change. I don’t think it’s necessary or likely but there are a zillion other things that would be worse. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: This is the same guy who is convinced there are people in invisibility cloaking devices filming him from his back yard. No joke Who has the the "cloaking devices, the Kilingons"? Kirk had Sulo find a energy wave to find them lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, iinii said: Prominent roles of exploitation? Sounds eerily like the NFL.... I'm pretty sure Buffalo Bill made many of the natives rich for the time They were traveling all across Europe making money Edited July 13, 2020 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Not happening. Too big of a leap as no one but us Bills nerds even knows where the Bills name came from in 1946. It’s not even the AFC Bills. Wilson could have claimed from the Bison. This is just a dude who needs a rating point. 4 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Who has the the "cloaking devices, the Kilingons"? Kirk had Sulo find a energy wave to find them lol And the Romulans. I’m ashamed knowing that, but love those old shows. More about my brother and I watching the reruns on channel 29. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Seriously though, all teams will be names after birds and cats before too long. On behalf of all the small birds and rodents slaughtered annually by both feral and domesticated felines, I doth protest. Might as well lump me in with the lot advocating the mascot from 'Community'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Not happening. Too big of a leap as no one but us Bills nerds even knows where the Bills name came from in 1946. It’s not even the AFC Bills. Wilson could have claimed from the Bison. This is just a dude who needs a rating point. And the Romulans. I’m ashamed knowing that, but love those old shows. More about my brother and I watching the reruns on channel 29. I forgot about the Romulans, those bastaads 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) I went ahead and made a blog post about this (first time I've posted anything for 3 years, but...): https://billsblogbeta.wordpress.com/2020/07/13/its-time-for-the-nfl-team-from-buffalo-to-change-its-name/ The name of “my” team, the Buffalo Bills, should be changed, for many reasons: 1. Buffalo Bill slaughtered Native Americans. Other reasons: 2a. Many people reading this probably didn’t even know that the Buffalo Bills are named after Buffalo Bill (heck, you might not even know who Buffalo Bill was), because there’s literally nothing in the team’s branding that reflects the nickname. Not since the ’60s (pictured) has Buffalo Bill actually been used; instead, the team exclusively uses the city name in all of its branding. The nickname is not only confusing, it’s completely pointless and is arguably the weakest team name in all of sports. Can you think of another team that completely ignores its name? I would be willing to bet there are players on the team who don’t even know why their team is called the Bills. 2b. Because of the branding problem, many “football fans” have actually referred to the Bills as “the Buffalos” or “the Bulls” (and in the process revealed that they’re not actually football fans at all, but I digress). A change would eliminate this problem. 3. Buffalo Bill is called “Buffalo” Bill because he slaughtered buffalo! How is that a positive omen for the football team from Buffalo? Isn’t that kind of like beating ourselves? (Coincidentally or not, this *has* been the story of the Bills…) Lastly: 4. Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo. (Not really a reason, but I like to use this grammatically correct and complete sentence whenever I get the chance.) So, I propose that the NFL team from Buffalo change its name to: Buffalo Bison Buffalo Buffalo (a brilliant nod to the grammatically correct sentence above) or, simply: Buffalo. Using simply “Buffalo” is possible because the city is in the unique position of having its animal mascot in the name of the city itself, so no further nickname is needed. In fact, they’re already essentially doing this — the “Bills” part is completely superfluous and only confuses people. Or, they could keep the name and just change the entire brand to money. $$ Advertisements Edited July 13, 2020 by Giuseppe Tognarelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I didn’t say that I wanted it or expected it. Just said I’m not going to whine about it. As long as they stay in Buffalo I can deal with a name change. I don’t think it’s necessary or likely but there are a zillion other things that would be worse. Well how about the vast majority of us that it would piss off? Do we count anymore? Edited July 13, 2020 by Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Baurele’s tin foil hat must need adjusting 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 They don’t need to change the name of the team if they just change the logo.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Beast said: Well how about the vast majority of us that it would piss off? Do we count anymore? Go ahead and feel however you want. Just giving my opinion not telling anyone else what to think. My main concern is that the Bills stay in Buffalo. My 2nd main concern is that they play winning football. Everything else is a bonus. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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