boater Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Listening to the windbag live right now. He's saying the Buffalo Bills may be up next to change their name. Rationale: They are named after Buffalo Bill Cody who murdered many Native Americans. I hope the Bills don't change their name. (it's 930 AM, or WBEN on radio.com) 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Riv Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Talk is cheap, I don't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Absolutely baseless assertion to simply rile up his listeners with a Slippery Slope fallacy. 21 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) I don’t see it getting to that point. Washington was a bit of an extreme. The Atlanta Braves aren’t changing their name as an example. If they do, so be it. I have a lot of stuff that will be obsolete (including the shirt that I have on now). As long as the “Buffalo” part doesn’t change I’ll manage. I don’t think that it’ll happen though. Edited July 13, 2020 by Kirby Jackson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) I was under the impression that the old AAFC team, The Bisons, changed their name to the Buffalo Bills because of the popularity of a barbershop quartet of the same name. They did use the Buffalo Bills Cody mascot for a few seasons, but long ago dropped that association. https://www.bmhof.org/inductees-b/buffalo-bills-barbershop-quartet.html Edited July 13, 2020 by ChevyVanMiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I suspect there are a few things working in the bills favor- small market not particularly activist market not many knowing bill cody but with things like statue removal stretching pretty far, it’s not impossible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 This is the same guy who is convinced there are people in invisibility cloaking devices filming him from his back yard. No joke 6 5 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 In a society where people can always find a way to be offended, and we encourage it, I would be surprised Also, how does he define “murdered” Indians? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Buffalo Beaters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 The Bills don't need a nickname. Are they the only team that uses the city as their mascot? If they do switch, they should switch the Bisons and the Bills should be become the Bisons. It would require zero change. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: This is the same guy who is convinced there are people in invisibility cloaking devices filming him from his back yard. No joke So a credible source then. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: This is the same guy who is convinced there are people in invisibility cloaking devices filming him from his back yard. No joke Where does he broadcast from? This sounds entirely entertaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: So a credible source then. No doubt https://canadafreepress.com/article/anatomy-of-the-deep-states-cloaked-take-down-of-the-president Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, boater said: Listening to the windbag live right now. He's saying the Buffalo Bills may be up next to change their name. Rationale: They are named after Buffalo Bill Cody who murdered many Native Americans. I hope the Bills don't change their name. (it's 930 AM, or WBEN on radio.com) I don't believe Buffalo Bill Cody murdered many native Americans he was a civil war soldier, and created Buffalo Bill's wild West show which had natives in prominent roles Edited July 13, 2020 by Buffalo716 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: The Bills don't need a nickname. Are they the only team that uses the city as their mascot? If they do switch, they should switch the Bisons and the Bills should be become the Bisons. It would require zero change. Need to change the name of the city too. 'Cultural appropriation' and all..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyab1974 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I hope the name doesn't get changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: This is the same guy who is convinced there are people in invisibility cloaking devices filming him from his back yard. No joke him to? been a problem for me 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, boater said: Listening to the windbag live right now. Sorry for your loss (of time you'll never get back)... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Buffalo Redskins. 4 18 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I don't believe Buffalo Bill Cody murdered many native Americans he was a civil war soldier, and created Buffalo Bill's wild West show which had natives in prominent roles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Bill The good news is he was a Union soldier, so we pass there. The bad news is he served the military in the Indian Wars. But I dont see anyone going that far. Big difference between this and "Red Skins". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 They're so name because they hump their skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 My biggest takeaway here is that someone actually listens to Bauerle’s show. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Bill The good news is he was a Union soldier, so we pass there. The bad news is he served the military in the Indian Wars. But I dont see anyone going that far. Big difference between this and "Red Skins". He was a civilian scout. Who cares, besides crazy people The history of humans is a history of warfare. Fighting wars and then preparing for wars in peacetime We will never stop fighting, because there's evil that wants to take good down And that was true 2 thousand years ago and 200 years ago and today.. if serving in the military is bad, then you might as well get rid of the American military 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 38 minutes ago, boater said: Listening to the windbag live right now. He's saying the Buffalo Bills may be up next to change their name. Rationale: They are named after Buffalo Bill Cody who murdered many Native Americans. I hope the Bills don't change their name. (it's 930 AM, or WBEN on radio.com) Why do you listen to this guy????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He was a civilian scout. Who cares, besides crazy people Right. I'm with ya. I dont think it was even "bad news". Was just sayin that is probably what he is building this baseless fearmongering off of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 So we’re named after an honorary Private who wasn’t even really a member of the military and who’s big claim to fame was running a live theatrical show? I think I might actually want the name to be changed now...... 17 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Bill The good news is he was a Union soldier, so we pass there. The bad news is he served the military in the Indian Wars. But I dont see anyone going that far. Big difference between this and "Red Skins". 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) It won't happen. Most people don't even know what "Buffalo Bills" means, especially since the "Bill" part is so weirdly left out of absolutely every aspect of the branding. It's the only sports nickname I can think of that is not represented in any team branding or merchandise. Very strange Edited July 13, 2020 by Giuseppe Tognarelli 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 https://rbj.net/2020/07/07/should-bills-consider-a-name-change-too/?fbclid=IwAR2R54kSvvMeHmMcCykToiXO0J4al_WAXSDNP9Ub_S6cY01E-3Zw-6mJBl0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: It won't happen. Most people don't even know what "Buffalo Bills" means, especially since the "Bill" part is so weirdly left out of absolutely every aspect of the branding. It's the only sports nickname I can think of that is not represented in any team branding or merchandise. Very strange Well the name isn't the Buffalo Bill It's the Buffalo Bills, and they do have merchandise that says bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Whatever. Go for it. It really doesn't matter. The Bills don't actually use Bill Cody in any marketing, mascots, etc. at all. Just rename them Buffalo. We use a Buffalo on the helmet, all of our marketing, mascots, t-shirts, imagining on the score board etc. I wouldn't "change" the name. I would just drop the Bills part. We can be like Madonna. We are just Buffalo. Literally nothing would have to be different. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 When I was a kid (early 70's), I asked my uncle what the name "Buffalo Bills" meant. He told me the team was named after a "bunch of guys named Bill, sitting around,driniking beers, asses hanging out of their pants, watching their team". A bunch of genric working-class slugs. It made sense to me...maybe we can sell that! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I don't believe Buffalo Bill Cody murdered many native Americans he was a civil war soldier, and created Buffalo Bill's wild West show which had natives in prominent roles Actually he was a scout not a soldier ..and he was in general friendly to native americans and felt they were unjustly treated. I actually wish we had a better name, but not because Buffalo Bill did anything wrong. But as someone said riling up the crowd leads to ratings no matter how faulty the info. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 50 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: If they do, so be it. Weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 We need to bring Bill back in some capacity, as an alternate logo or something, so people understand the name. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, Buffalo716 said: Well the name isn't the Buffalo Bill It's the Buffalo Bills, and they do have merchandise that says bills Right, other than the word "Bills" there is nothing linked to Bill Cody. So I think that is a bit pedantic. Everything is just a Buffalo/Bison. There would be zero need to change anything in their brand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Well the name isn't the Buffalo Bill It's the Buffalo Bills, and they do have merchandise that says bills No, I'm saying there's no indication anywhere of what "Bills" means -- except old game programs from the '60s 3 minutes ago, Buftex said: When I was a kid (early 70's), I asked my uncle what the name "Buffalo Bills" meant. He told me the team was named after a "bunch of guys named Bill, sitting around,driniking beers, asses hanging out of their pants, watching their team". A bunch of genric working-class slugs. It made sense to me...maybe we can sell that! Did he really think that? Might as well be the Buffalo Bobs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 The name "Buffalo Bills" is actually ironic since he got his nickname for killing the most buffalo in a contest against Bill Comstock of the usage of the nickname "Buffalo Bill". Cody killed 68 and Comstock killed 48 in an 8 hour contest. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I would think that the 49ers, named for gold rush era pre-civil war pillaging of the pristine California environment for the sake of only a garish precious metals commodity, might be on the chopping block before us? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) Maybe he should go visit his friends at Rozsiek's vacuums and stay off the air for a while. Edited July 13, 2020 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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