Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 20, 2020 Author Share Posted June 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Golden Goat said: The Patriots won't be nearly as bad as many are predicting. Bill > I agree they will be better than most people think. Maybe 9 wins. This board will collectively and probably rightly so lose their sh#t if Bill's lose first Patriots game at home. 1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said: McKenzie gets cut. All of the little gadget plays that McK did last year Stephon Diggs did for the Vikes. And, quite frankly, Diggs does them better. McK offered versatility that Daboll cherishes. Diggs makes him redundant. If there is a role that keeps McK on the team, it will be for the other versatile attributes that he has for which they may not want to risk Diggs-- special teams, etc. They had him in as a defensive back at one point last season. But, I don't think that is going to be enough to keep him on the team. I've not seen this idea before but it has merit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 21, 2020 Author Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Happy said: Did you mean to say he got ate up by terrible OTs? I get that he is $6M less in guaranteed money than Lawson, but he's also five years older than Shaq, as well as trending down while Lawson is trending up in performance. The more I hear about Addison, the less optimistic I am. Why did Beane/McD basically commit two years to Addison (out of a possible three year deal)? On paper this signing looks suspect. CCR...that would be too many R's and C's. Plus a bar playing CCR won't be serving Crown, but rather moonshine. Lawson outplayed Murphy the last two years yet McD kept starting Murphy. Made no sense. Obviously we don't have all the facts but we watch the games and can see who made plays and who didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Cellino and Barnes have the BEST jingles. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 They really should have dished out the money to resign Jarius Byrd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: Cellino and Barnes have the BEST jingles. Cellino and Barnes: We need a jingle. Jingle Maker: What's the name of your business? Cellino and Barnes: Cellino and Barnes. Jingle Maker: What business are you in? Ceiling and Barnes: We're injury attorneys. Jingle Maker: What's your phone number? Cellino and Barnes: 888 8888 Jingle Maker: I'll see what I can come up with... Edited June 21, 2020 by The Jerk 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 4 hours ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: I think you nailed it. He sees way less snaps.. so nine penalties in nine snaps is atrocious (just kidding) I don’t how how many snaps he was on the field, any site keep track of this? I have no problem getting Sweeney on the field I think he is in line to take over his spot. If you asked me I'd tell you look here: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/snap-counts but you didn't so I wont. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: Lawson outplayed Murphy the last two years yet McD kept starting Murphy. Made no sense. Obviously we don't have all the facts but we watch the games and can see who made plays and who didn't. Murphy has that 'DNA' and is a McDermott guy. Lawson was a remnant from the Whaley era, yet could set an edge properly, was not a liability in run or screen defense (like Murphy is), and can still rush the QB to an extent. Murphy got his sack stats from a few favorable matchups over the season; has a good game one week, then disappears the next week or two. Also gets picked on during screen and sweep plays. Not a consistent player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Gugny said: I think Smith goes bye bye. My unpopular take is that Sweeney ends up having the best TE numbers on the Bills next year. I agree that with you in that if Sweeney does a half way decent job at blocking, he takes Smiths spot, but unless the drops get worse would be very surprised if Knox isn't clearly the #1 guy. As has been mentioned Knox has the physical skills very few have at TE position. He made some plays very few others could have. Admittedly drops were a concern, but lets give it another year first. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Lee Smith is actually a good role player on this team. He is a superior inline blocker. He had 9 penalties (8 accepted/1 declined) last year which is the big knock against him. Interestingly though 7 of those were in three games - all losses to NE(3), Phil(2), and Clev(2). For reference Dawkins had 12, Ford had 10, and Morse had 9 called against them. Now these three are on the filed more far more than Smith which still makes his penalties frustrating. I think he still makes the team with Knox, Kroft, and Sweeney goes to the PS one more time. I can see them letting Smith go and carrying an extra OT especially if the kid from UW pans out. I'd be fine with that scenario but I do think Smith deserves a bit more credit on this board for his play than most give him. Interested to see what others have to post I think Smith is gone...NFL trending toward all-around tight ends,but not so much blocking specialists. What about Croom? And you think Trey Adam's beats out Daryl Williams,Neceshke or Bates? He is injury prone and slow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 5 hours ago, jwhit34 said: Unpopular take on TBD: Duke Williams has been vastly overrated here ever since he got to Buffalo. Any talk out of the Bills organization or from Josh have been pretty much *crickets* on Tyler Kroft and Duke Williams Neither attended the Florida workouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 10 hours ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: I think you nailed it. He sees way less snaps.. so nine penalties in nine snaps is atrocious (just kidding) I don’t how how many snaps he was on the field, any site keep track of this? I have no problem getting Sweeney on the field I think he is in line to take over his spot. Lee Smith had 329 offensive snaps, 30.2%. Google Football Outsiders snap counts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Ranch is better than Blue Cheese for wings. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 11 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: McKenzie gets cut. All of the little gadget plays that McK did last year Stephon Diggs did for the Vikes. And, quite frankly, Diggs does them better. McK offered versatility that Daboll cherishes. Diggs makes him redundant. If there is a role that keeps McK on the team, it will be for the other versatile attributes that he has for which they may not want to risk Diggs-- special teams, etc. They had him in as a defensive back at one point last season. But, I don't think that is going to be enough to keep him on the team. McKittrick is God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 12 hours ago, Dopey said: I like your thoughts on Sweeney. I loved the pick. I think he's ready to take over for Lee. Sweeney was a really good blocker in college and showed really good hands. Limited athleticism, not fast or quick, but with all of the weapons around him, he will make one hell of a safety blanket for Josh. Now, Josh will have to realize sometimes a check down is the best play. Not Trent Edwards type check downs, mind you. Well written Dopey. Sweeney has more skills overall in terms of blocking, receiving, and a good check down. Ethan, I know you meant well, but just don’t see Smith making the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Any talk out of the Bills organization or from Josh have been pretty much *crickets* on Tyler Kroft and Duke Williams Neither attended the Florida workouts Was Croom there? And being an ex CFL player, Williams was required to work the off season at a Rona Building Centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, CSBill said: Ranch is better than Blue Cheese for wings. Criminal!!!!!! 12 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Mario Addison will underachieve. He didn’t have a sack in like the last 8 games and he ate up terrible OTs other than that. I say he has less than 7 sacks which he hasn’t done in years. Yeah, I don’t know. So many sacks last year were coverage sacks that he could accidentally get close to ten this year given our secondary has not changed. With that being said, I have never watched the guy but my hopes are that he can at least control the LOS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 14 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Oh my, that is an impressively unpopular take. I have not had an RC Cola in 40 years. Have never seen on the shelves it in the Pacific NW What do you mix your bourbon with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 58 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Was Croom there? And being an ex CFL player, Williams was required to work the off season at a Rona Building Centre. yes. Croom was in the picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: yes. Croom was in the picture I wasn't referring to the 'young socialites and their gentlemen companions' category. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 The Jets are going to be a tough out. They won 6 of their last 8 in 2019 while the Bills lost 4 of their last 5. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Since Kuechly retired, McCaffery has the best @$$ in all of football...also he is going to be the GOAT and will someday retire a Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRHater69 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) Shemp was funnier than Curly and the Stooges hit their peak with Joe Besser. Edited June 21, 2020 by GRHater69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, maryland-bills-fan said: What do you mix your bourbon with? If it's good - nothing. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 PFF generally has good, unbiased analysis 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) We are a far from a lock to win the division or make the playoffs. We needed 4 fourth quarter comebacks last year and played one of the top 3 easiest schedules in football. If people think the Patriots will be an easy out this year, they will be much better than most of the teams we earned wins against last season and the schedules is night and day in difficulty. It's also nice being the underdog, which we no longer are. Edited June 21, 2020 by KzooMike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, KzooMike said: We are a far from a lock to win the division or make the playoffs. We needed 4 fourth quarter comebacks last year and played one of the top 3 easiest schedules in football. If people think the Patriots will be an easy out this year, they will be much better than most of the teams we earned wins against last season and the schedules is night and day in difficulty. It's also nice being the underdog, which we no longer are. With that being said the Bills have the easiest schedule in the division. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-strength-of-schedule-2020-hardest-easiest/k6tyxtfog6uh14hb6vh59icqe Edited June 21, 2020 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) One more unpopular opinion: I think that it’s more likely that the Bills win the AFC East than it is that the Bills win 10+ games. Edited June 22, 2020 by Kirby Jackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 My unpopular take is we split with the Dolphins, lose both games to NE, and do not win the division. We sneak into the playoffs at 9-7 and lose in the WC round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Unpopular? The following are underrated by TBD, not too surprising since a lot of these guys were poster children of our drought. Dick Jauron Chris Kelsay Donte Whitner Leodis McKelvin Roscoe Parrish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, jwhit34 said: Unpopular take on TBD: Duke Williams has been vastly overrated here ever since he got to Buffalo. Just the number of likes to the post indicate the opposite - that Duke Williams is not thought of highly. Not agreeing or disagreeing. Just pointing out that logically speaking the more that people think Duke Williams is overrated, the opposite (Duke not overrated) is more likely true ? Edited June 21, 2020 by IgotBILLStopay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 The USWNT is more popular than the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 20 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Interested to see what others have to post Anything that FireChans posts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Ranch > Blue cheese Drums > Flats 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 21 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Lee Smith is actually a good role player on this team. He is a superior inline blocker. He had 9 penalties (8 accepted/1 declined) last year which is the big knock against him. Interestingly though 7 of those were in three games - all losses to NE(3), Phil(2), and Clev(2). For reference Dawkins had 12, Ford had 10, and Morse had 9 called against them. Now these three are on the filed more far more than Smith which still makes his penalties frustrating. I think he still makes the team with Knox, Kroft, and Sweeney goes to the PS one more time. I can see them letting Smith go and carrying an extra OT especially if the kid from UW pans out. I'd be fine with that scenario but I do think Smith deserves a bit more credit on this board for his play than most give him. Interested to see what others have to post Sweeney was never on the PS iirc unpopular hot take: by mid season, we realize that our OL isn’t nearly as good as we thought it was and is the reason that we are knocked out of the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Since Kuechly retired, McCaffery has the best @$$ in all of football...also he is going to be the GOAT and will someday retire a Bill. @Victory Formation, well prove me wrong bro who has a better behind? Cooper Kupp? Josh Allen? I say we have a wet football pant contest for charity!!!? I'll host and judge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 21, 2020 Author Share Posted June 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: With that being said the Bills have the easiest schedule in the division. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-strength-of-schedule-2020-hardest-easiest/k6tyxtfog6uh14hb6vh59icqe I was going to say the same thing. All the AFC teams have difficult schedules. 10-6 surely will win the division and 9 wins may wrap it up by mid Decemebr if the Patriots fall apart. Dolphins are well coached but a couple years away. Jets are terribly coached but still may have the best QB in the division. I still like Allen over Darnold and did before the draft. But so far neither is truly ahead of the other. Maybe both will get better this year and they will battle each other for a number of years. Will be interesting to see what happens 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 On 6/20/2020 at 4:52 PM, Gugny said: I think Smith goes bye bye. My unpopular take is that Sweeney ends up having the best TE numbers on the Bills next year. Yes! From your lips to Allah's ears! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Trent Murphy is a very good football player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Trent Murphy is a very good football player And Milano isn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Lawson outplayed Murphy the last two years yet McD kept starting Murphy. Made no sense. Obviously we don't have all the facts but we watch the games and can see who made plays and who didn't. I think most people would agree that Shaq has outplayed Murphy over the last two years overall. But, if we are talking unpopular takes, I think the following is more unpopular: I wonder if maybe it took until midseason of last year for Murphy to get fully healthy. Yes, I know that's 2 full years, and some guys can get back from an ACL in like 8 months. But, Murphy not only had a Grade 3 ACL tear (where it tore completely in half), but he also tore his MCL at the same time. His game really started to pickup around week 6 last year. And in his last six games of the season (including the playoff game), Murphy had 6 sacks, 21 tackles, 8 QB hits, 2 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery. For comparison, Shaq had 3.5 sacks, 12 tackles, 10 QB hits, 1 forced fumble, over the same six games. Edge to Murphy over that most recent span. Murphy was actually a beast in the Dallas game, the Pittsburgh game, and the Houston playoff game. Go back and watch the highlights. On 6/20/2020 at 5:51 PM, Kirby Jackson said: Mario Addison will underachieve. He didn’t have a sack in like the last 8 games and he ate up terrible OTs other than that. I say he has less than 7 sacks which he hasn’t done in years. It was only the last 4 games he did not have a sack (not 8). And yes, 3 of his sacks came against Arizona and 1.5 against Washington. But look at any pass rusher. First, sacks usually come in bunches, and secondly, every great pass rusher feasts on weaker competition (Bruce did it all the time...4-6 sacks per season came in the two games against the lowly Jets). Another for instance, T.J. Watt had 6.5 of his sacks against Cinncinati, Miami, and Cleveland last year. Shaquil Barrett, the sack leader last year got 4 of his sacks against the Giants, 3 against Carolina, 2 against JAX (plus 1 each against Arizona and Detroit). That's 11 of his sacks against "weaker" competition. You could pretty much make that claim about almost any pass rusher. It is kind of par for the course. Now, if Addison wasn't feasting on weaker competition, then I'd be worried. Edited June 21, 2020 by folz 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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