Tesla03 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 We have to take advantage. I think WR at pick 2 is almost a must if a top prospect is there. And there is a very very good chance a 1st round rated guy will drop to us. John Brown is 30, Cole Beasley is turning 31. We need a young WR here that can be our future and can learn under the vets while they are still here. Not to mention this offense really still needs more skill players. adding Diggs is huge but won't be enough to get us where we need to be on offense next season. people talking about drafting a DB or LB, what is gonna happen if our offense fails to score over 2 TD's per game again next season. Our defense was top 3 last season, as long as we are in the top 10 we will be fine. We arguably have the best secondary in the NFL, drafting a rookie CB won't improve us all that much on defense. 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 I guess we'll know 4 or 5 years from now. No way to make that claim right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 If a guy they like is still there then sure... Don’t pick one in the 2nd for the sake of picking one though 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla03 Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, MJS said: I guess we'll know 4 or 5 years from now. No way to make that claim right now. In terms of prospects I def is. I don't remember a class coming out this deep with this much talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tesla03 said: In terms of prospects I def is. I don't remember a class coming out this deep with this much talent. Well, half of them will bust. They always do. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, Tesla03 said: We have to take advantage. Not really. Calm down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 21 minutes ago, Tesla03 said: adding Diggs is huge but won't be enough to get us where we need to be on offense next season. How much of an impact do you expect a rookie WR to have with little to no offseason activities with the team and 3 guys locked in ahead of him on the depth chart. I can buy wanting a WR but I don’t buy him having a big impact. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Do you think for yourself or just mimic whatever Beane tells you? Is that something Beane said? I thought it was common knowledge that many players bust in the draft. Half the first rounders will be busts. That's just how it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 24 minutes ago, MJS said: Well, half of them will bust. They always do. Very true. However, due to the ages of Brown and Beasley, if there is a guy they like later on I can see them taking a shot. I’ll trust them to make the right call, then pray for the best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 I think the team has to go WR in round 2 or 3. Diggs will be 27 come this season, not old but Beasley will be 31 and Brown just turned 30, on top of there being zero depth behind them (Roberts is a return man, Mackenzie a gadget player and the rest are bubble roster players) the team needs a WR waiting to take over for Beasley and Brown once they decline in a year or two. My ideal draft would be to go DE round 2 (need to get younger at DE and some depth wouldn't hurt), WR round 3, RB round 4, and LB or Secondary depth round 5. That would fill 4 key areas of depth for this team while getting younger at two positions they are very very old at. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, MJS said: Is that something Beane said? I thought it was common knowledge that many players bust in the draft. Half the first rounders will be busts. That's just how it is. Somebody (Cowherd?) had like the last 20-25 FIRST picks excluding the last 3 years (too soon to judge) and a ton of the tops picks were average at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Diggs is also 26. Hes about at his peak. I say we trade him now at peak value. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 I think it is on a par with 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 and if diggs was in this draft...he'd be the first WR off the board which is likely to be no latter than pick #11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: How much of an impact do you expect a rookie WR to have with little to no offseason activities with the team and 3 guys locked in ahead of him on the depth chart. I can buy wanting a WR but I don’t buy him having a big impact. In fairness - the OP pointed out that Brown and Beasley are both 30+ Adding a younger potential 2021 starter behind Diggs makes sense. They still need a RB more though, and the WR are so deep there will be good ones in the 3rd. P.S. Diggs was a 5th rounder 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 I thought I remember reading recently that Beane/McD/scouts were not impressed with the WRs they spoke to at the combine, which is probably why they gave up a first round pick and signed Diggs. At the very least I interpret it to mean that most of these guys are not WR1 material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: I thought I remember reading recently that Beane/McD/scouts were not impressed with the WRs they spoke to at the combine, which is probably why they gave up a first round pick and signed Diggs. At the very least I interpret it to mean that most of these guys are not WR1 material. There are 3 first rounders. The 4th best guy - Higgins - is an early round 2 type who will probably go higher. The Bills brass went in numbers to his pro day and came back and decided to trade for Diggs. Beane knows. The top 3 will gone and none of the others really justified pick #22. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, papazoid said: and if diggs was in this draft...he'd be the first WR off the board which is likely to be no latter than pick #11 he was a 5th rounder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: I thought I remember reading recently that Beane/McD/scouts were not impressed with the WRs they spoke to at the combine, which is probably why they gave up a first round pick and signed Diggs. At the very least I interpret it to mean that most of these guys are not WR1 material. Maybe they decided the second tier or WRs (after the Big-3) weren't worthy of pick #22 (i.e., Tee Higgins). But I don't think they'd pass on one if they slipped to #54 and they had a much higher (15-20 slots) grade on him. That said, I don't think they'll take a WR before round 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 I agree that if a WR is there and rated high on their board - they shouldn't hesitate. The Steelers replenish their WR group like no other team and I'd like to model after that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Grab Bryan Edwards in the 4th or 5th. Put him on IR (broke his foot). Let him soak everything in this year with no pressure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 3 hours ago, billsfan89 said: I think the team has to go WR in round 2 or 3. Diggs will be 27 come this season, not old but Beasley will be 31 and Brown just turned 30, on top of there being zero depth behind them (Roberts is a return man, Mackenzie a gadget player and the rest are bubble roster players) the team needs a WR waiting to take over for Beasley and Brown once they decline in a year or two. My ideal draft would be to go DE round 2 (need to get younger at DE and some depth wouldn't hurt), WR round 3, RB round 4, and LB or Secondary depth round 5. That would fill 4 key areas of depth for this team while getting younger at two positions they are very very old at. Uyeah, what he said. Nice take Billsfan89. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 You don’t have to use a higher round draft pick on receivers. This is just silly. Rounds 3-5 still produce great players especially at receiver. I hate to inform some of you but we’re not the chiefs or saints. This is still a run first team. Don’t want to turn it into an Allen thread but until he takes his game to a new level we are a run team. We won’t be throwing 40+ times a game unless we’re losing big time. I am sure they will consider adding talent to the receiver room but I don’t think it’s high #1 priority as the OP demands 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 4 hours ago, billsfan89 said: I think the team has to go WR in round 2 or 3. Diggs will be 27 come this season, not old but Beasley will be 31 and Brown just turned 30, on top of there being zero depth behind them (Roberts is a return man, Mackenzie a gadget player and the rest are bubble roster players) the team needs a WR waiting to take over for Beasley and Brown once they decline in a year or two. My ideal draft would be to go DE round 2 (need to get younger at DE and some depth wouldn't hurt), WR round 3, RB round 4, and LB or Secondary depth round 5. That would fill 4 key areas of depth for this team while getting younger at two positions they are very very old at. Agreed. Could arguably interchange positions and rounds. But, I would be absolutely good if your situation plays out. And, it realistically could play out that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 4 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Do you think for yourself or just mimic whatever Beane tells you? You can do a lot worst than mimic Beane. BTW, half of them will bust. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 5 hours ago, MJS said: Well, half of them will bust. They always do. Well since this is predicted to be the best and richest WR class, if they bust at about the same rate they always do, it will still be the best WR class in history. Which is a reasonable prediction at this point. Seems like a pretty good chance we'll grab a WR and an RB at some point. The difference being WR at #2 seems like one reasonable possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Thurman#1 said: Well since this is predicted to be the best and richest WR class, if they bust at about the same rate they always do, it will still be the best WR class in history. Which is a reasonable prediction at this point. Seems like a pretty good chance we'll grab a WR and an RB at some point. The difference being WR at #2 seems like one reasonable possibility. I'd be happy with them picking up another receiver in the draft. I think we need oline help as well. I wouldn't want to see a running back taken with our 2nd rounder, but maybe later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, MJS said: I'd be happy with them picking up another receiver in the draft. I think we need oline help as well. I wouldn't want to see a running back taken with our 2nd rounder, but maybe later. We're agreed, then. Although I could see getting an RB in either FA or the draft if we do get another. Edited April 5, 2020 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 2014 was the WR draft of our generation. We'll know in 2025 whether 2020 was any good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) WR is now a position of strength. If the number 1 player on Beane's board is a WR, go for it. I'd have no problem with them adding an addition WR, but it's in no way a need. The offense NEEDS another back. They could use some help elsewhere. But this take seems over the top. I believe the onus is now on the OC and the QB to show what they can do with a competent supporting cast. Edited April 5, 2020 by LSHMEAB 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Tesla03 said: In terms of prospects I def is. I don't remember a class coming out this deep with this much talent. Talent in a draft room needs to be turned into talent on Sundays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 9 hours ago, MJS said: I guess we'll know 4 or 5 years from now. No way to make that claim right now. Yeah, but then it's too late. The OP is obviously referring to them as prospects. That's what drafting is all about. I agree, if they believe a guy is a truly exceptional prospect, they should use the pick on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Tesla03 said: In terms of prospects I def is. I don't remember a class coming out this deep with this much talent. 2014? Unless a “generation” is only 5 years to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 This class, on paper, is weakening by the day. They were talking 2 months ago about record numbers in round 1. Now Higgins has largely fallen out that, same with Shenault, Reagor is falling down draft boards and even Justin Jefferson is getting questioned. People were too quick to crown it a generational class. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) I say we go RB in round 2 and then WR in round 3, it didn’t sound like Beane was completely sold on Singletary based from his press conference. Edited April 5, 2020 by BuffaloBills1998 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 "our generation"? How old is the OP? '13, '14, '15 were pretty solid drafts. So is '17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Don't think it's the best. There are a lot of quality WRs but I don't see no Julio Jones or Calvin Johnson in this class. Just a lot of good ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 14? Had OBJ, Evans, Landry, Cooks, Watkins, Robinson, Adams, and Smoke. Im not saying a Wr in rd 2 or 3 wont be the best option. This class has a long way to go to be the best ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) There are a lot of good receivers in this class. It may be the best WR class ever at this point. It’s certainly the deepest. With that being said the Bills will draft BPA. That’s what they do. That’s what they always do. That’s what they should do. You draft the best players. It may be a WR. It may be a RB. It may be a DB. It may be an edge. It may be an OL. The board determines who you draft. Edited April 5, 2020 by Kirby Jackson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 They should definitely take a WR. But I wouldn't take one early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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