Turk71 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 20 hours ago, Mango said: If the Bills get Gordon and Diggs this off-season, we should definitely expect more than 190 passing yards and 19 points per game. I think with the personnel on offense we should be expecting about 25 points p/g (10-12ish) and 235 passing yards per game (20th). A good offensive line would go a long way to creating more points as well. People can pretend all they want but the Bills don't have one yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, MiltonWaddams said: That’s an oddly worded statement. Have you always wanted him or just since last year? I agree with you. Wrote it too fast. I wanted Gordon on this team last year during his hold out. Was hoping for a trade. This is even better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, Turk71 said: A good offensive line would go a long way to creating more points as well. People can pretend all they want but the Bills don't have one yet. What position, outside of RT which may be much improved with the maturation of Ford, would you say we could upgrade at to be “good”? I would say we have a “good” offensive line with some very good pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gambit said: That 9m doesn't look appealing to me. Yikes if we pay him that much. For one year, it really doesn't matter. We probably just about done with signings anyways. I'd rather give him $9 million this year than the other idea of $5 million this year and a big increase next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 In McBeane I trust, if they believe Gordon can help put them over the top, I'm in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gambit said: That 9m doesn't look appealing to me. Yikes if we pay him that much. I think the key word there is "up to" which could mean less guaranteed with performance based escalators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Prove it deal, why not, if the value makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, Rubes said: Is the Cold Front report credible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Adding Gordon would mean we have no real holes left on offense. There are questions about Allen and Ford but nothing imminent that we need to add. I still see #2 CB and edge rusher as holes so I can see us going after those in the draft. Otherwise we are set up very well to left the draft fall to us and take BPA at every pick. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Until I see one single, credible source about this, I don't believe it. This Bills front office is as tight on leaks as any we've ever seen...and I'm supposed to believe that two no-name Twitter accounts above know what's happening behind the scenes? Pshaw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, Magox said: Is the Cold Front report credible? Probably no less than that ProFootball411 one. I think Parrino is the only one that's actually reputable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: Forgive me if I’m not overly enthused about a guy that’s only ever averaged more than 3.9 a carry ONCE in his 5 seasons. I’d roll with the youngster we already have. you need more than 1 RB and you're forgiven 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, babulator said: I'd really like this signing. I know hes not the bell cow people would like but he'd be a great outlet for JA. He excels in the passing game, is good with the blitz pickup, and he has a nose for the endzone. He might not be the electric back people want, but that's why we have Singletary, right? They'd make a great sugar and spice combo. No reason we couldn't draft/sign a banger for inside the tackles either. Don’t worry. As soon as he signs, the entire board will suddenly decide he’s great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Logic said: Until I see one single, credible source about this, I don't believe it. This Bills front office is as tight on leaks as any we've ever seen...and I'm supposed to believe that two no-name Twitter accounts above know what's happening behind the scenes? Pshaw! It could be Gordons people leaking in order to put pressure on another team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Adding Gordon would mean we have no real holes left on offense. There are questions about Allen and Ford but nothing imminent that we need to add. I still see #2 CB and edge rusher as holes so I can see us going after those in the draft. Otherwise we are set up very well to left the draft fall to us and take BPA at every pick. OL and arguably #2 CB. Edited March 19, 2020 by Doc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 so anybody got any good recopies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: Forgive me if I’m not overly enthused about a guy that’s only ever averaged more than 3.9 a carry ONCE in his 5 seasons. I’d roll with the youngster we already have. Why get 10 TDs when you can have 2? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Adding Gordon would mean we have no real holes left on offense. There are questions about Allen and Ford but nothing imminent that we need to add. I still see #2 CB and edge rusher as holes so I can see us going after those in the draft. Otherwise we are set up very well to left the draft fall to us and take BPA at every pick. The only real question for me at this point would be Daboll. Can he get the job done. There's no question the tools are there, and it won't be the D that's holding us back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Magox said: Is the Cold Front report credible? Parrino is very credible. There’s definitely talks and it may lead somewhere, but I doubt the other listed stuff heavily. Bills are clearly doing due diligence at the RB position though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, WMDman said: so anybody got any good recopies? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Beane hasn't even woke up yet. We'll see if we sign him after 7pm or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: What position, outside of RT which may be much improved with the maturation of Ford, would you say we could upgrade at to be “good”? I would say we have a “good” offensive line with some very good pieces. Both of the guard positions could be improved upon, those guys are average at best. The Bills line last year was near the very bottom in power running and stuff rate. That measures the ability to gain a yard when needed and how often runs get stuffed for no gain or a loss. In other run block categories they were average at best. Also Josh Allen was tied for last in the league in pocket time at 2.3 secs. That is the time from snap til pocket collapses. Edited March 19, 2020 by Turk71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, DJB said: Appears to be quite the swell out there in the Pacific. Looks like it will continue on and pick up moisture once it gets snatched away from the peninsula... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, WMDman said: so anybody got any good recopies? We just baked a loaf of bread with parmigiana Romano & other seasoning in it, really yummy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Adding Gordon would mean we have no real holes left on offense. There are questions about Allen and Ford but nothing imminent that we need to add. I still see #2 CB and edge rusher as holes so I can see us going after those in the draft. Otherwise we are set up very well to left the draft fall to us and take BPA at every pick. I'd say the weakest positions would be RT and TE, then WR depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I'd say the weakest positions would be RT and TE, then WR depth. backup QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, Pete said: backup QB Less concerning, but valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Turk71 said: Both of the guard positions could be improved upon, those guys are average at best. The Bills line last year was near the very bottom in power running and stuff rate. That measures the ability to gain a yard when needed and how often runs get stuffed for no gain or a loss. In other run block categories they were average at best. Also Josh Allen was tied for last in the league in pocket time at 2.3 secs. That is the time from snap til pocket collapses. Okay, but who’s actually available for the upgrades you would like to see?? inquiring minds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: Less concerning, but valid. Allen gets hurt, that might be season. Let's reload Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Billl said: He’s turned the ball over 3 times in the last 3 years out of 771 touches. I stand corrected. Thanks. Sorry for the bad info. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I'd say the weakest positions would be RT and TE, then WR depth. Round 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 36 minutes ago, Lurker said: I'm mixed on this. Paying a guy $6-$7 million to be a rotational RB? I'd much rather draft a RB or get a cheaper veteran option and put those savings to work elsewhere.... What's the point of starting with $85m in cap space if you don't use it. Adding Diggs and then Gordon would be an amazing influx of talent. I don't care about the salaries, I'll let Beane worry about that. Many contracts currently on the roster are done in the next 2-3 years, we really have no cap concerns. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Garafolo just said he doesnt believe that Melvin will be a bill.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Pete said: Allen gets hurt, that might be season. Let's reload That's true of nearly every team. Let's make sure he's protected and upgrade RT lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 If it's a one or two year deal less than 10M a year, that's great value and easy to get out of if Gordon is done 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, klos63 said: What's the point of starting with $85m in cap space if you don't use it. Adding Diggs and then Gordon would be an amazing influx of talent. I don't care about the salaries, I'll let Beane worry about that. Many contracts currently on the roster are done in the next 2-3 years, we really have no cap concerns. Did I say I was opposed to spending money? Nope. I said why spend starter money on a rotational RB. When those dolars could be allocated to other needs by drafting/signing a lower cost RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Gordon or Gurley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Okay, but who’s actually available for the upgrades you would like to see?? inquiring minds... There were great players available when this started but it's just not a priority evidently. There were excellent players available relatively cheap even, Glasgow and Bulaga would have been my targets, they signed for a million more than they gave DT Butler who was average and will only play part time. I think besides QB the offensive line is the most important group. If there is no push and Josh has little time to throw, which was the case last year, the weapons can only help so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, Reed83HOF said: Gordon or Gurley Door number 3... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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