John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: This is just a guy as a pass rusher. Good effort but not the beast we need. I'de like to see him replace Murphy. Move on from Murphy and sign Quinn. Roughly double Shaq Lawson's sack numbers while still being a excellent run defender. And consistant in those sack numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Roughly double Shaq Lawson's sack numbers while still being a excellent run defender. And consistant in those sack numbers. He's consistent but not an elite pass rusher. He'll replace Shaq but I wanted more than that added to the edge. Edited March 17, 2020 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He's consistent but not an elite pass rusher. He'll replace Shaq but I wanted more than that added to the edge. Gives more sacks then Clowney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 This D can get away with fielding older players because they see so much rotation during a game. Expect Addison to see somewhere about 50% of defensive snaps especially in 3rd down passing situations. Solid acquisition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Gives more sacks then Clowney He knows how to finish plays. He gets after the QB but in terms of the type of pass rusher that I'm talking about he's not that guy. We need that elite edge athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He's consistent but not an elite pass rusher. He'll replace Shaq but I wanted more than that added to the edge. Last I knew free agency hasn’t even started yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I would have preferred Shaq on a 5th year guarantee. I also would have preferred bringing Shaq back but I'm sure the way this staff treated him , he couldn't wait to move on All that said, I like this move. Consistent production at a reasonable rate. He replaces Shaq in my mind. The 2nd round pick will replace Murphy. Solid B+ move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Can we make Beans a senior advisor to Botteril? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stinky finger Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, wppete said: I would. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Man Beane is a rockstar! Can we extend Beane now please. Ask Beane if budget allows it. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Gambit said: I'd love to still sign Quinn and cut Murphy. I believe they'd save more against the cap by keeping him this year and releasing him next year. Something like $8M, I think. I don't have the numbers but one of the junior capologists on the board probably knows for sure. 1 hour ago, DJB said: Beane has said he does anyways. Personally would love to see a RB. Dobbins please! Would much rather have Taylor. JMO. 9 minutes ago, Wagon Circler said: Can we make Beans a senior advisor to Botteril? Or can Beane just, you know, fire Botterill? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: I believe they'd save more against the cap by keeping him this year and releasing him next year. Something like $8M, I think. I don't have the numbers but one of the junior capologists on the board probably knows for sure. Murphy is a Free Agent after this season. He is on a 3 year, 21 million deal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He knows how to finish plays. He gets after the QB but in terms of the type of pass rusher that I'm talking about he's not that guy. We need that elite edge athlete. I agree. His tackles,pressure rate, tackles for loss, knockdowns and hurries are not in the same company as his sack totals. #20 in sacks, #50 total pressures, #65 in hurries, #138 QB hits. There must be a reason that pff had him as their #70 out of 95 edge defenders last year, lower than Murphy Hughes and Lawson (even if pff sucks, as a lot seem to think, they can't be that far off). Maybe he could be more of a situational pass rusher sack artist, but he is not an all around stud at the position. Even the chart of top sack totals for last four years shows his lack of tackles compared to the others. But once again, McBeane know him a lot better cause they coached him a few years ago. Welcome to the Bills, I hope you are a lot better than pff thinks you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Mueller Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Turk71 said: I agree. His tackles,pressure rate, tackles for loss, knockdowns and hurries are not in the same company as his sack totals. #20 in sacks, #50 total pressures, #65 in hurries, #138 QB hits. There must be a reason that pff had him as their #70 out of 95 edge defenders last year, lower than Murphy Hughes and Lawson (even if pff sucks, as a lot seem to think, they can't be that far off). Maybe he could be more of a situational pass rusher sack artist, but he is not an all around stud at the position. Even the chart of top sack totals for last four years shows his lack of tackles compared to the others. But once again, McBeane know him a lot better cause they coached him a few years ago. Welcome to the Bills, I hope you are a lot better than pff thinks you are. Yes they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 He has been productive but his age is a concern, we will have to find his replacement in a couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, Jamie Mueller said: Yes they can. Okay, pff aside, explain the numbers in my first paragraph. Those are not subjective and numbers don't lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty98 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Motor26 said: Would like a Chris Harris in there. Or another corner. With Trufant out in Atlanta today I'd bet McBeane give him the once over. Played against him in NFC South plus he's not counting against the formula. 2 hours ago, Lurker said: They're going to need to find a young edge rusher in round 2 or 3. The DEs on this roster are all 30+ years old and Darryl Johnson is still unproven... Give me Jonathon Garvin out of Miami in round 4 please. He abused McGlichy (San Frans 1st round tackle) two years ago when Miami hosted Notre Dame, plus he has lots of room to grow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 hours ago, DJB said: Just as I predicted! Woot! Beane is a magician!! You are a mind reader. I think 80% of this board predicted this signing. I applaud you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, purple haze said: Murphy is a Free Agent after this season. He is on a 3 year, 21 million deal Thanks. So, looks like they would incur a $1.75M dead cap hit by cutting him. Trent Murphy signed a 3 year, $22,500,000 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including a $5,250,000 signing bonus, $10,375,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $7,500,000. In 2020, Murphy will earn a base salary of $6,425,000, a roster bonus of $1,000,000, a workout bonus of $100,000 and a incentive bonus of $500,000, while carrying a cap hit of $9,775,000 and a dead cap value of $1,750,000. CONTRACT TERMS:3 yr(s) / $22,500,000 SIGNING BONUS$5,250,000 AVERAGE SALARY$7,500,000 GTD AT SIGN:$7,875,000 TOTAL GTD:$10,375,000 FREE AGENT:2021 / UFA BONUS BREAKDOWN CAP DETAILS CASH DETAILS YEYAR AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING ROSTER WORKOUT MISC. CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH 2018 27 $2,625,000 $1,750,000 $406,250 $100,000 - $4,881,250 $7,975,000 $8,381,250($8,381,250) 2019 28 $5,800,000 $1,750,000 $1,000,000 $100,000 $150,000 $8,800,000 $6,600,000 $7,070,803($15,452,053) 2020 29 $6,425,000 $1,750,000 $1,000,000 $100,000 $500,000 $9,775,000 $1,750,000 $8,025,000($23,477,053) 2021 30 UFA Contract Notes: $7.875M guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + 2018 salary) $2.5M of 2019 salary fully guarantees on 3/17/2019 2019 Roster Bonus: $500,000 (03/17/2019) Annual Per Game Active Bonus: $31,250 ($500,000 13 LTBE in 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 This was a very underrated signing imo, the guy is 4th all time sack leader in Carolina history, he's very consistent and even solid against the run. Right now it would be a solid rotation with Hughes and Murphy. Great job getting him here, I think they go pass rusher at 22 also. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty98 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: This was a very underrated signing imo, the guy is 4th all time sack leader in Carolina history, he's very consistent and even solid against the run. Right now it would be a solid rotation with Hughes and Murphy. Great job getting him here, I think they go pass rusher at 22 also. We don't have 22 anymore... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: This was a very underrated signing imo, the guy is 4th all time sack leader in Carolina history, he's very consistent and even solid against the run. Right now it would be a solid rotation with Hughes and Murphy. Great job getting him here, I think they go pass rusher at 22 also. Addison is seven years older than Shaq. Is he better than Shaq? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, mannc said: Addison is seven years older than Shaq. Is he better than Shaq? I believe he is, fans on here love Shaq maybe because he's a likable guy? But as far as on the field he is solid against the run and up until this past season he's had absolutely no pass rush ability. Addison has been steady pretty much his whole career even at his advanced age. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, mannc said: Addison is seven years older than Shaq. Is he better than Shaq? If Shaq gains consistency (something he struggled with) then he is Mario Addison. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: Agreed with @Turk71 QB hits had me a bit concerned. Would accept that he didn’t play a lot of snaps as a reason (looks like he was playing >70% most weeks). Sorta the anti jerry Hughes so maybe it works particularly if his snap count is much lower than 70% (don’t know how much of that was rushing vs coverage). Overall think I’m gonna like the singing once the numbers come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Does Beane wake up at 7:00 at night? Wow. Yep. He’s on the graveyard shift this week. They’re on a rotation shift thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 hours ago, JoeF said: No drop off yet. He is a lot like Zo....The Bills coaching staff knows him very, very well. He has a reputation as a guy who takes care of himself well and he is a 3 down guy. Similar to Zo -- he worked his craft on special teams and then got a chance to play. https://www.panthers.com/news/mario-addison-s-rocky-road-to-relevance Fantastic story. Love the guy already. #Process epitomized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He knows how to finish plays. He gets after the QB but in terms of the type of pass rusher that I'm talking about he's not that guy. We need that elite edge athlete. Too bad you didn’t stop at the bolded parts. It could have been your best post to date. Alas... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Man Beane is a rockstar! Can we extend Beane now please. Breaking: Bills re-sign GM Brandon Beane, 3 yrs 15mil + 2 wooly cardigans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Cal said: Who? Seriously? Do you follow football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Mario Addison has been a very good football player. But at the moment the defensive ends on this roster are and oft injured 29 year old then two guys age 31 and 32 and a 22 year old 2nd year player taken in the 7th round who they used in rotation early last season and then took off the field by mid season because it was clear he wasn't ready. They cannot be finished at this position. They either need to find another productive younger body in FA or #54 has to be a defensive end. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBillsFan Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: 32 years old? That was my exact thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Mario Addison has been a very good football player. But at the moment the defensive ends on this roster are and oft injured 29 year old then two guys age 31 and 32 and a 22 year old 2nd year player taken in the 7th round who they used in rotation early last season and then took off the field by mid season because it was clear he wasn't ready. They cannot be finished at this position. They either need to find another productive younger body in FA or #54 has to be a defensive end. Agreed, they may still sign a mid-level guy for depth. And, I think they look hard in the draft. Nonetheless, I like the Addison signing and do believe he is a step up from Shaq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I really, really hope this isn't seen as a pass rush solution or a starter. This is a 7-9 type roster starter, not SB. We need a game-changing DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Idc if the guy is 52, hes been productive and can absolutely help plug a hole, if nothing for nothing other than good rotational depth. Could be a great mentor to some of the younger DEs we have. Also, still expect them to add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said: Let’s gooo!!! I’m glad I stayed up I heard of him , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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