LSHMEAB Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 We don't need picks. We need STUDS. No interest in trading back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Miles Boykins 2.0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: We don't need picks. We need STUDS. No interest in trading back. What if they think they can trade back a bit and get TWO studs instead of one? Sadly, we’ll never know what their board looks like. Being in that draft room would be a huge bucket list item! What could they auction THAT off for? (Not that they’d ever do it because it jeopardizes the “he was our guy all along” mantra.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: We don't need picks. We need STUDS. No interest in trading back. Studs get picked outside Round 1 very year.. Edited February 29, 2020 by Aussie Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 7 hours ago, inaugural balls said: Uh yeaaaahh.....seems you've missed the point If you played in the NFL - I'm guessing you'd be a DB. If you were a ref you would be a BJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: If you were a ref you would be a BJ Touche’ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: We don't need picks. We need STUDS. No interest in trading back. I think you could trade back and then trade back up In the 2nd/3rd ... Beane loves to move around with those mid rounders. That’s IF you don’t have a guy you love at 22 Edited February 29, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I think you could trade back and then trade back up In the 2nd/3rd ... Beane loves to move around with those mid rounders. That’s IF you don’t have a guy you love at 22 Right. The purpose of moving back would be to position yourself so that you can trade up the board later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 8 hours ago, Baba Booey said: 2nd/3rd tier draft wr rankings. A post on the wall by Dkollidas on February 19th You said “Told you guys” but now you’re saying it was a post by someone named “Dkollidas”?? So you didn’t know about this guy? Or you did, but someone else said it for you? Link your prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 23 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: You said “Told you guys” but now you’re saying it was a post by someone named “Dkollidas”?? So you didn’t know about this guy? Or you did, but someone else said it for you? Link your prediction. I never trust people called Dkollidas or @Gugny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: if Claypool can really be had in the 2nd I wonder if trading back might not be a bad idea and acummulating picks Or draft a top 6 OT or pass rusher then getting Claypool rd 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 On 2/27/2020 at 8:07 PM, NewEra said: So this is where you do it. 6’4 238 32.5 arms 9 7/8 hands 80 wingspan 4.42 40 40.5 vert 126 broad jump 19 bench reps Do you want him at 22? If so, play him all over or mostly at WR or TE? Which position would be more dominant or have a better chance to make the HoF? He went from a possible target in rd 2 to if we want him, we have to snag him at 22, if he’s even there. Did that happen today? I was really impressed, although his gauntlet still just looked ok He’d be such a great fit with JA imo. Tiny Haaaands... Sign as UDFA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Im only here so i dont get fined. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 40 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Im only here so i dont get fined. thanks, here's your bag of skittles in lieu of a participation trophy ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 12:01 AM, Aussie Joe said: Deepest WR class ever.. DE in the first.. No no no no no. That would be the billsiest thing ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: No no no no no. That would be the billsiest thing ever. You want a Safety instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Booey Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 8 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: You said “Told you guys” but now you’re saying it was a post by someone named “Dkollidas”?? So you didn’t know about this guy? Or you did, but someone else said it for you? Link your prediction. My bad. I don’t know how to link it. He just gave a list of 2nd and 3rd tier wr. All I did was say what about Chase Claypool? Thought he might of overlooked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) On 2/27/2020 at 8:58 PM, White Linen said: What winter would he or any player have to deal with? Did the Bills just finish building a super secret dome stadium? I remember a few years ago having a home game moved to Detroit because of a huge lake effect snowstorm in November. Then there was the snow bowl vs the Colts. These were just in the last few years I remember in the 90's some real cold snowy games. Winter starts in November in Buffalo. BTW I wouldn't mind Claypool in rnd 1 he won't last until rnd 2. Edited February 29, 2020 by JMF2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Just now, JMF2006 said: Did the Bills just finish building a super secret dome stadium? I remember a few years ago having a home game moved to Detroit because of a huge lake effect snowstorm. Then there was the snow bowl vs the Colts. These were just in the last few years I remember in the 90's some real cold snowy games. Winter starts in November in Buffalo. And other places too like New Jersey, Foxboro etc who we always end up playing late in the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: And other places too like New Jersey, Foxboro etc who we always end up playing late in the year Yup every northern rust belt city with an open air stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 8:56 PM, Maine-iac said: Miles Boykins 2.0 No offense, MVP or not, look at who his QB is and the breakdown of that QB's completions. Out of 265 completions, 125 of those were to TE's. Then you have 49 completions to RB's. That's 174 of his 265 completions. There were 91 spread around to the WR group with Marquise Brown getting 46 of those. He was the speed guy, a bona fide threat to take it to the house every time he touched the ball whom they schemed for. Then you have Snead who was Lamar's security blanket getting 31 receptions. Lamar only targeted Boykin 22 times and he turned that into 13 catches for 198 yards with 3 TD's. He had 1 drop in those targets with only 17 of them being considered catchable. That offense is not an offense that you can really judge WR's off of. We all knew what Brown was and that Roman would scheme for him. I don't know if Boykin will ever be used in Baltimore or be able to do as well as he would in say a GB, NO, Seattle, Houston, KC, or anywhere else that has a true passing QB. I'm not saying he would be a superstar, but he would likely have had more production as a rookie. Claypool on the other hand differs from Boykin in many ways. First off he weighs 18lbs more than Boykin, but is just as fast. Claypool is clearly a more physical WR if you compare the two in their time at Notre Dame. Claypool also has a bit more twitch to him than Boykin did and can beat DB's on inside slants with more consistency. Yes they both ran a 4.42 at the combine, but if you watch them both at ND Claypool is faster in pads than Boykin. Claypool also has better body control and awareness than Boykin, always being able to layout or twist his body for the ball while getting a foot in bounds to secure the catch. They are two completely different players outside of their height and 40 time. The comparison is lazy at best. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 12:30 AM, Aussie Joe said: Trade down Or OT. Wirfs, Wills or Becton would massively upgrade our OL. That is if Lamb, Ruggs and Jeudy are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: Or OT. Wirfs, Wills or Becton would massively upgrade our OL They will be gone too by 22... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: They will be gone too by 22... I think three QBs go before us, maybe four. It’s not far fetched to think a tackle can fall to us with these guys ahead of us. Regardless we walk away with a good player in a need area. What position? I do not know. Let the board come to us. Maybe a WR, maybe a T, maybe a DE but I think between Lamb, Jeudy, Ruggs, Wirfs, Becton, Thomas, Matos and Epenesa there’s a reasonable chance we may score one of these players and if they covet someone they can give up a 3rd and go up and get one if they slide to 15-16. 1. Chase Young, DE, OSU 2. CeeDee Lamb, WR, LSU 3. Jerry Jeudy WR, Alabama 4. Henry Ruggs, WR, Alabama 5. Jeffery Okudah, CB, OSU 6. Isaiah Simmons, LB, Clemson 7. Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville 8. Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa 8. Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn 9. Yetur Gross-Matos, DE, PSU 10. AJ Epenesa, DE, Iowa 11. Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia 12. Jonathan Taylor, RB, Wisconsin 13. Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama 14. Tyler Biadasz, OL, Wisconsin 15. Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU 16. Laviska Shenault, WR, Colorado 17. Curtis Weaver, DE, BSU 18. Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU 19. Prince Tega Wanogho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 On 2/27/2020 at 8:37 PM, Franchiseneedsme said: I want to see the web chart on him..... DK went end of 2nd, and this year is deep. I still think he will be available in the late 2nd. Dont let the measurables fool you. I agree second rd or just pass On 2/27/2020 at 8:58 PM, White Linen said: What winter would he or any player have to deal with? Right. When's the last time we had "a buffalo winter " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Agent 91 said: Right. When's the last time we had "a buffalo winter " Exactly. And the players don't experience the winters of my childhood today during the playing season, yet we keep spewing the same drivel and I get the confused emoji's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 8 hours ago, White Linen said: Exactly. And the players don't experience the winters of my childhood today during the playing season, yet we keep spewing the same drivel and I get the confused emoji's. I'm 35 and I'm actually disappointed... that was our identity. I remember they refused to wear sleeves in the snow during the bowl years as an intimidation tactic. This here is nothing. You are right. Its a non story. It barely gets cold anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Agent 91 said: I'm 35 and I'm actually disappointed... that was our identity. I remember they refused to wear sleeves in the snow during the bowl years as an intimidation tactic. This here is nothing. You are right. Its a non story. It barely gets cold anymore I'm 45 so you're just a punk kid, haha. The weather used to be brutal and it was definitely a factor. We may be among the best places to play outdoors in the NFL. It's nearly perfect football weather from camp through December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Claypool is going to be a workout special who looks better than he will on the field or be one of those great hybrid TE types. His tape does NOT look good for a WR. Not great separation or route running. If someone turns him into Gronk, that is his best hope but he needs 30 more pounds.....5th rounder 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 8:51 PM, LSHMEAB said: We don't need picks. We need STUDS. No interest in trading back. I agree but most drafts dont have 22 studs in it. Buffalo needs a significant increase in offensive weapons. Im not convinced that there is a significant difference in impact from pick. 22 to 50. If there is than absolutely take him at 22. If you get to pick up an extra pick in the top 50 I would do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, Locomark said: Claypool is going to be a workout special who looks better than he will on the field or be one of those great hybrid TE types. His tape does NOT look good for a WR. Not great separation or route running. If someone turns him into Gronk, that is his best hope but he needs 30 more pounds.....5th rounder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 On 3/2/2020 at 12:48 PM, Victory Formation said: Or OT. Wirfs, Wills or Becton would massively upgrade our OL. That is if Lamb, Ruggs and Jeudy are gone. All 6 will be long gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 15 hours ago, Locomark said: Claypool is going to be a workout special who looks better than he will on the field or be one of those great hybrid TE types. His tape does NOT look good for a WR. Not great separation or route running. If someone turns him into Gronk, that is his best hope but he needs 30 more pounds.....5th rounder Geese, the experts have him going in the first round. I would love to see him in a Bills uni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, CSBill said: Geese, the experts have him going in the first round. I would love to see him in a Bills uni. Which experts are you referring to? Just at a quick glance, McShay, Jeremiah, and Matt Miller all do not have him in the first round. I don't doubt that there's a mock out there that does, but I haven't seen one yet. Edited March 4, 2020 by DCOrange 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Just watched his edited tape from the Louisville game. From that limited info I see a move TE in the NFL. Potentially a really good one. Guessing he goes late first to mid second round at the latest. It’d have been nice to see him play with a QB that wasn’t hot garbage. It makes him more of a projection since he didn’t have the touches he should have had. He did get to show off his ability to make a tough catch though. He’d be a great addition to the Bills and really fill the need at Y. I love the possibilities with him in jumbo and multi TE packages. 3rd&1 from your own 34? Better not stack the box because he could get by his S or LB and go 66 up the seam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 On 3/2/2020 at 6:49 PM, Victory Formation said: I think three QBs go before us, maybe four. It’s not far fetched to think a tackle can fall to us with these guys ahead of us. Regardless we walk away with a good player in a need area. What position? I do not know. Let the board come to us. Maybe a WR, maybe a T, maybe a DE but I think between Lamb, Jeudy, Ruggs, Wirfs, Becton, Thomas, Matos and Epenesa there’s a reasonable chance we may score one of these players and if they covet someone they can give up a 3rd and go up and get one if they slide to 15-16. I think definitely before us will be: 3 QBs - Burrow, Tua, one of Herbert and Love 4 OTs - Wirfs, Willis, Becton, Thomas 3 WRs - Jeudy, Lamb, Ruggs 2 DTs - Kinlaw, Brown 2 DBs - Okudah, and one of McKinney, Fulton, Henderson 2 DE - Young & Chaisson 1 LB - Simmons The other 4 spots could be a 4th QB, a 4th receiver, one or two of the other DBs mentioned above, possibly one of Queen or Murray (maybe even both). The Bills are right at the point where the genuine 1st round grades dry up... but if someone reaches for need (thinking those extra QBs, or potentially one of the 2nd tier of OL) then it is possible a first round graded guy is sitting there for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Just watched his edited tape from the Louisville game. From that limited info I see a move TE in the NFL. Potentially a really good one. Guessing he goes late first to mid second round at the latest. It’d have been nice to see him play with a QB that wasn’t hot garbage. It makes him more of a projection since he didn’t have the touches he should have had. He did get to show off his ability to make a tough catch though. He’d be a great addition to the Bills and really fill the need at Y. I love the possibilities with him in jumbo and multi TE packages. 3rd&1 from your own 34? Better not stack the box because he could get by his S or LB and go 66 up the seam. He's a WR with flexibility to be moved around due to his size and strength. I've watched him for 4 years at Notre Dame, being the professed homer I am. In those 4 years I watched him take a step forward every season. As a Freshman he got basically 0 playing time. As a Sophomore he struggled with some drops, but you also saw the big play potential and the outstanding body control. Junior season he started to really emerge as a weapon in the passing game and cleaned up the drops, even though he was 2nd fiddle to Boykin. His Senior year he was the leader of the pack and put up some big numbers even with Book's inconsistencies. A lot of the perceived "he lacks separation" is due to Ian Book and his ball placement at times. Claypool would have his man beat by a full step, which is probably 2 yards easily for him, and Book's pass would cause him to have to adjust. I would literally be screaming at the TV on some plays (usually 4 or 5 a game at least) due to the fact Claypool was wide open and Book either missed him on the throw, took off too early from the pocket without having his eyes down the field, or he just flat out never looked his way for whatever reason. He could have easily had another 400+ yards and 5 TD's this year. People see a big guy and immediately want to flip him to another position. These are his 1-on-1 Senior Bowl reps. There are a couple of sloppy runs, one looking like it was due to him getting tangled up with the DB, but he is a solid route runner for a guy his size, has some quick twitch to him, can get separation, has great hands, and you know he can go up to get the ball over anyone. Some of the balls thrown his way were pretty crappy as well in the video, especially the ones where he's in the endzone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, H2o said: He's a WR with flexibility to be moved around due to his size and strength. I've watched him for 4 years at Notre Dame, being the professed homer I am. In those 4 years I watched him take a step forward every season. As a Freshman he got basically 0 playing time. As a Sophomore he struggled with some drops, but you also saw the big play potential and the outstanding body control. Junior season he started to really emerge as a weapon in the passing game and cleaned up the drops, even though he was 2nd fiddle to Boykin. His Senior year he was the leader of the pack and put up some big numbers even with Book's inconsistencies. A lot of the perceived "he lacks separation" is due to Ian Book and his ball placement at times. Claypool would have his man beat by a full step, which is probably 2 yards easily for him, and Book's pass would cause him to have to adjust. I would literally be screaming at the TV on some plays (usually 4 or 5 a game at least) due to the fact Claypool was wide open and Book either missed him on the throw, took off too early from the pocket without having his eyes down the field, or he just flat out never looked his way for whatever reason. He could have easily had another 400+ yards and 5 TD's this year. People see a big guy and immediately want to flip him to another position. These are his 1-on-1 Senior Bowl reps. There are a couple of sloppy runs, one looking like it was due to him getting tangled up with the DB, but he is a solid route runner for a guy his size, has some quick twitch to him, can get separation, has great hands, and you know he can go up to get the ball over anyone. Some of the balls thrown his way were pretty crappy as well in the video, especially the ones where he's in the endzone. My view is he is a Jimmy Graham. A guy who is basically a wide receiver who plays down the seam. You can call it a split end or a move end or whatever you want but you are not really asking him to block beyond the odd bit of chipping, and you are not asking him to run those quick hitches or anything that requires those quick changes of direction. You are asking him to run downfield and attack the middle and then be a beast after the catch with his speed and size. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 16 hours ago, White Linen said: I'm 45 so you're just a punk kid, haha. The weather used to be brutal and it was definitely a factor. We may be among the best places to play outdoors in the NFL. It's nearly perfect football weather from camp through December. Lol as you get older you start to specify to appreciate that. And be called young man lol. But yes. I remember watching and I also remember wondering how you could play in it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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