Dkollidas Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) I understand people want the shiny new toy... Amari Copper or AJ Green. But looking at that I believe that... 1) Cooper has spoken out about not really wanting to play in cold weather (has never played a game in snow and doesn’t want to) 2) Cincinnati has openly talked about tagging AJ Green, and he’s spoken about wanting to stay with the Bengals. I could see Beane going for a low risk move with Alshon Jeffrey, depending on how he checks out medically. He’s a solid big target, only has one year left on his current deal, would only cost us about $10M for the one year. Would add size and catch ability to the lineup. And it could be a thing like Miami trading for Talib from the Rams, where Buffalo trades something like two 6th round picks and gets Jeffrey and a 4th round pick or something like that. Edited February 6, 2020 by Dkollidas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Just now, Dkollidas said: I understand people want the shiny new toy... Amari Copper or AJ Green. But looking at that I believe that... 1) Cooper has spoken out about not really wanting to play in cold weather (has never played a game in snow and doesn’t want to) 2) Cincinnati has openly talked about tagging AJ Green, and he’s spoken about wanting to stay with the Bengals. I could see Beane going for a low risk move with Alshon Jeffrey, depending on how he checks out medically. He’s a solid big target, only has one year left on his current deal, would only cost us about $10M for the one year. Would add size and catch ability to the lineup. And it could be a thing like Miami trading for Talib from the Rams, where Buffalo trades something like two 6th round picks and gets Jeffrey and a 4th round pick or something like that. Why would Philly trade him? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 [This is an automated response] As a courtesy to the other board members, please use more descriptive topic titles. A single name if far too vague to post as a title and provides little insight into what specifically the post is talking about.The topic starter can edit the topic title line to make it more appropriate. Thank you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 very solid player. While I'd prefer to see us draft skill position players that can grow with Josh through his career Jeffrey is a very good WR with speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dkollidas said: I understand people want the shiny new toy... Amari Copper or AJ Green. But looking at that I believe that... 1) Cooper has spoken out about not really wanting to play in cold weather (has never played a game in snow and doesn’t want to) 2) Cincinnati has openly talked about tagging AJ Green, and he’s spoken about wanting to stay with the Bengals. I could see Beane going for a low risk move with Alshon Jeffrey, depending on how he checks out medically. He’s a solid big target, only has one year left on his current deal, would only cost us about $10M for the one year. Would add size and catch ability to the lineup. And it could be a thing like Miami trading for Talib from the Rams, where Buffalo trades something like two 6th round picks and gets Jeffrey and a 4th round pick or something like that. One always has to look at this from the POV of the trading GM. Philly (for the first time in a couple years) has a decent cap situation, with $40M. They also have 20 FA, including their LT, Agholor (their other top WR), two FS, CB, DT, DE etc. Some may no longer be in their plans, but they probably want to resign 4 or 5 who are going to want to be paid. Jeffrey has the 4th highest cap hit on the team at $15M of which ~$10M is salary . If the Eagles trade him, his amortized signing bonus accelerates into this year and there goes $16.5M of their $40M cap space. He's one of their 2 top WR targets from 2018, and when he and Agholor were injured the Eagles lack of depth at WR loomed large. The Eagles really have no motivation to look at a Jeffrey trade, certainly not for a used hot-dog and a package of tube socks (which is what 2 6th round picks would amount to) 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I’ve seen rumblings he’s not a great locker room guy. I’m ok with it, but I think they can do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Breshad Perriman is a free agent and has more upside at this point 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I could get behind this on a cap friendly deal as long as it didn’t preclude drafting a WR early ... he could be everything that Benjamin was supposed to be for this offense and another veteran leader type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I have always like Alshon even in college, I can’t see any real scenario philly would ship him out though unless it was an extremely favorable trade to them. As mentioned earlier it makes no financial sense and their depth is putrid 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: Why would Philly trade him? If we wanted a WR from Philly, and Philly is willing to move on (given their lack of WR depth, I would look very carefully under the hood if they are), it would seem to make a lot more sense to look at Agholor, who is a free agent. However, I suspect he's a FA (and was allowed to play out his 5th year option) is because his notion of what he is worth and Philly's notion of value for production are too far apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) It was suggested in an article today, where each team had a suggested move...this was ours. https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2874666-the-ideal-offseason-trade-scenario-for-every-nfl-team.amp.html Edited February 6, 2020 by Codyny13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: One always has to look at this from the POV of the trading GM. Philly (for the first time in a couple years) has a decent cap situation, with $40M. They also have 20 FA, including their LT, Agholor (their other top W), two FS, CB, DT, DE etc. Some may no longer be in their plans, but they probably want to resign 4 or 5 who are going to want to be paid. Jeffrey has the 4th highest cap hit on the team at $15M of which ~$10M is salary . If the Eagles trade him, his amortized signing bonus accelerates into this year and there goes $16.5M of their $40M cap space. He's one of their 2 top WR targets from 2018, and when he and Agholor were injured the Eagles lack of depth at WR loomed large. The Eagles really have no motivation to look at a Jeffrey trade, certainly not for a used hot-dog and a package of tube socks (which is what 2 6th round picks would amount to) I have no real thoughts on your post, but please note the bolded where I have removed the erroneous R as Algholor doesn't use that part of his position. (This editing service is 100% free of charge. I'm like Grammerly but better) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, thebandit27 said: Why would Philly trade him? Supposedly he's the main source that people have been quoting when they talk about Eagles players wishing they had kept Foles over Wentz. Re: the OP, I floated Jeffery as a potential target as well. I think it would make a lot of sense for us and some sense for Philly if those rumors are true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 22 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I have no real thoughts on your post, but please note the bolded where I have removed the erroneous R as Algholor doesn't use that part of his position. (This editing service is 100% free of charge. I'm like Grammerly but better) Dammit you made me spit coffee all over my keyboard Agholor does so, 56.4% of the time. Some subset of 43.6% of the time, of course, you're correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Dammit you made me spit coffee all over my keyboard Agholor does so, 56.4% of the time. Some subset of 43.6% of the time, of course, you're correct. He catches 100% less children falling from burning buildings than the average citizen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, whatdrought said: He catches 100% less children falling from burning buildings than the average citizen. Since the average citizen catches 0, I think that's mathematically undefined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, thebandit27 said: Why would Philly trade him? Because we want him, and other NFL teams are always looking for ways to help out the Bills? And this isn't even the stupidest thread that was started today. It's going to be a long offseason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Since the average citizen catches 0, I think that's mathematically undefined If by average you mean you, then I am appalled by your lack of civic participation. I've caught 3 this week alone, though I don't suppose I'm average... In all seriousness, do you know to what I am referring? http://inquirer.com/eagles/eagles-fan-nelson-agholor-philadelphia-fire-hakim-laws-20190923.html Edited February 6, 2020 by whatdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) While I don't usually think that fantasy football has much to do with the discussions on this forum, in this case it is applicable. I drafted Jeffery this year and have had him on my roster in the past. This is relevant, because it means that I have followed his production closely. In doing so, I have noticed that Jeffery is wildly inconsistent and often injured. He may have the physical traits in the WR that the Bills need, but I don't think he's the right guy for the team. I just looked at his stats, and he has only played in all 16 games in 3 out of the 8 years he has been in the league. Last year, he missed 6 games. He will be 30 years old next season and isn't getting any younger (and likely not any healthier). In the 10 games he played last year, he only had 1 game with over 100 yards, only 2 with over 75, and only 4 TDs total. Edited February 6, 2020 by msw2112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: If we wanted a WR from Philly, and Philly is willing to move on (given their lack of WR depth, I would look very carefully under the hood if they are), it would seem to make a lot more sense to look at Agholor, who is a free agent. However, I suspect he's a FA (and was allowed to play out his 5th year option) is because his notion of what he is worth and Philly's notion of value for production are too far apart. No! Agholor is Zay Jones redux. He can't catch a cold in Antarctica. Eagles fans will be glad to see him leave. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Why would Philadelphia trade him? And if were on the block, why would they trade him to the Bills? Dumb thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I’d rather save our draft picks. Let’s just take him by force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’ve seen rumblings he’s not a great locker room guy. I’m ok with it, but I think they can do better. He took shots at Wentz through Josina Anderson (anonymously), and the Eagles simply didn't want him on the field because of his attitude and declining skills. Not a process guy, and is nowhere near worth his contract. Look elsewhere 13 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Why would Philadelphia trade him? And if were on the block, why would they trade him to the Bills? Dumb thread. Very good chance he's cut FYI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Codyny13 said: It was suggested in an article today, where each team had a suggested move...this was ours. https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2874666-the-ideal-offseason-trade-scenario-for-every-nfl-team.amp.html Interesting article..........some of the prices in trade are on the "rich" side. In particular David Njoku netting Cleveland a second rounder seems like a real pipe dream to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: One always has to look at this from the POV of the trading GM. Philly (for the first time in a couple years) has a decent cap situation, with $40M. They also have 20 FA, including their LT, Agholor (their other top WR), two FS, CB, DT, DE etc. Some may no longer be in their plans, but they probably want to resign 4 or 5 who are going to want to be paid. Jeffrey has the 4th highest cap hit on the team at $15M of which ~$10M is salary . If the Eagles trade him, his amortized signing bonus accelerates into this year and there goes $16.5M of their $40M cap space. He's one of their 2 top WR targets from 2018, and when he and Agholor were injured the Eagles lack of depth at WR loomed large. The Eagles really have no motivation to look at a Jeffrey trade, certainly not for a used hot-dog and a package of tube socks (which is what 2 6th round picks would amount to) Right there is sum funnee stuff!!! Appreciate the viewpoint as it dampers this crazy talk a wee bit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Why would Philly Trade a WR that will hurt their once traded? After playing PS guys on offense in skill spots last year for a majority of season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Interesting article..........some of the prices in trade are on the "rich" side. In particular David Njoku netting Cleveland a second rounder seems like a real pipe dream to me. Yea a few of these are based on original draft position. Definitely would be a fleece job for an oft injured player. If I was clevelander, I’d make that deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 AJ Green on a one year contract for anywhere between $1-5 million. See what he can do. If he gets hurt, who cares? You have him for one year and aren't spending anything more than few million. Draft another guy in the draft. And I like our WR core John Brown Cole Beasley AJ Green Rookie Duke Williams Isaiah McKenzie Sounds good to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Codyny13 said: It was suggested in an article today, where each team had a suggested move...this was ours. https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2874666-the-ideal-offseason-trade-scenario-for-every-nfl-team.amp.html I know the guy who did the article (Sobo) a little bit. He was just having some fun with possibilities that make some sense for each team. FWIW he is a big fan of how the Bills FO attacked the interior OL last off-season. He is a former lineman and is always a good person to get opinions on everything OL and DL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Would rather trade for Stefon Diggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 I say yes but I have no idea what compensation they would want. 1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said: AJ Green on a one year contract for anywhere between $1-5 million. See what he can do. If he gets hurt, who cares? You have him for one year and aren't spending anything more than few million. Draft another guy in the draft. And I like our WR core John Brown Cole Beasley AJ Green Rookie Duke Williams Isaiah McKenzie Sounds good to me I would love it but I bet AJGreen still gets 10 million guaranteed at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, BarleyNY said: I know the guy who did the article (Sobo) a little bit. He was just having some fun with possibilities that make some sense for each team. FWIW he is a big fan of how the Bills FO attacked the interior OL last off-season. He is a former lineman and is always a good person to get opinions on everything OL and DL. So what's his opinion on OL and DL free agents? I would like to know who is out there at RT and LG, and for that matter, what's his take on Quintan Spain? Also interested in takes on FA DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 8 hours ago, Codyny13 said: It was suggested in an article today, where each team had a suggested move...this was ours. https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2874666-the-ideal-offseason-trade-scenario-for-every-nfl-team.amp.html Fun article. The one trade that caught my eye is the Ravens sending a 1st and a 3rd for Stephon Diggs with the premise that the Vikings need to clear cap space. IF Diggs would be willing to come here (maybe sweeten his contract) I'd pull the trigger on that. He's a proven commodity in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, BarleyNY said: I know the guy who did the article (Sobo) a little bit. He was just having some fun with possibilities that make some sense for each team. FWIW he is a big fan of how the Bills FO attacked the interior OL last off-season. He is a former lineman and is always a good person to get opinions on everything OL and DL. I also like the way we addressed IOL/DL last year and I hope we address WR the same way this year Double down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Everybody keeps talking about the wrong Cooper... We need Kupp! 1 hour ago, Motorin' said: Would rather trade for Stefon Diggs. Rather Thielen then Diggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 10 hours ago, Dkollidas said: I understand people want the shiny new toy... Amari Copper or AJ Green. But looking at that I believe that... 1) Cooper has spoken out about not really wanting to play in cold weather (has never played a game in snow and doesn’t want to) 2) Cincinnati has openly talked about tagging AJ Green, and he’s spoken about wanting to stay with the Bengals. I could see Beane going for a low risk move with Alshon Jeffrey, depending on how he checks out medically. He’s a solid big target, only has one year left on his current deal, would only cost us about $10M for the one year. Would add size and catch ability to the lineup. And it could be a thing like Miami trading for Talib from the Rams, where Buffalo trades something like two 6th round picks and gets Jeffrey and a 4th round pick or something like that. I don’t think EJ Green is a shiny NEW toy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 45 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So what's his opinion on OL and DL free agents? I would like to know who is out there at RT and LG, and for that matter, what's his take on Quintan Spain? Also interested in takes on FA DE I’ll see if I can get that from him. He also writes for a Browns site and I’ve seen what he’s written about fits there. But the Browns will likely be running a scheme that utilizes a lot of zone blocking. That’s a bit different from the Bills although we also need somewhat nimble OL because they all need to be able to pull. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 With a draft that is DEEP in WR talent, I'd rather take a 4,5,6th round flyer on a WR than pay him 10MIL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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