\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 https://buffalonews.com/2020/01/29/buffalo-news-sold-to-lee-enterprises/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Enterprises Interesting to see whether they will change the way they cover Bills/Sabres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 LOL Pay wall they basically all draw from a news pool 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 25 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: https://buffalonews.com/2020/01/29/buffalo-news-sold-to-lee-enterprises/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Enterprises Interesting to see whether they will change the way they cover Bills/Sabres. ' cost synergies, primarily from the reduction of administrative expenses". that means a bunch of people in WNY get fired 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 interesting. the snooze was buffet's first newspaper buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: interesting. the snooze was buffet's first newspaper buy. Maybe the first time ever that he bought high and sold low. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Bring back the Courier Express! :) 10 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 does anyone here miss the evening paper? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, teef said: does anyone here miss the evening paper? what's an evening paper? memory flashback to The Times Union .... In my town some guy drives around throwing some local paper on Thursday afternoons. Does that count? Edited January 29, 2020 by SlimShady'sGhost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I was a paper boy delivering the evening news in the late afternoon and early on weekends...still read it daily (mostly sports) still have a 100k circulation on Sundays alone..likely going to centralize the back office-admin functions (ie layoffs) so lets see what the impact to the end users are beyond a price increase...not a good sign when Warren Buffet dumps an asset 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: what's an evening paper? memory flashback to The Times Union .... In my town some guy drives around throwing some local paper on Thursday afternoons. Does that count? i think that was the name of the evening paper. it was the d and c in the morning, and the thinner times union in the afternoon. i even remember those tiny, weird, square receipts they would give after payment. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 56 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: ' cost synergies, primarily from the reduction of administrative expenses". that means a bunch of people in WNY get fired Surprisingly the Buffalo News is still profitable even despite their actual readership of daily papers going from 400K to 100K now...technology and targeting business subscriptions to online content has been a huge boon to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Lee owns our local newspaper, for which I worked (ad sales) for about 9-months after being laid off. In the last 5 years, they have depleted the editorial staff to bare bones. They got rid of all copy editing positions. The paper has become unaffordable. They shut down the printing press and laid off all of those workers - which resulted in the paper being printed an hour away by another newspaper (which it doesn't even own), so delivery is a nightmare (which is why I stopped getting the paper, in addition to them raising the prices about three times/year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Wasn't Lee a slave owner?? Sorry, I live in Virginia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Now all the ‘Smiles At’ galleries will be from Davenport, Iowa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Countdown until Vic Carucci joins The Athletic...10, 9, 8.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Buffet.. buying amazon and selling newspapers?? I guess this internet thing isn’t a fad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, teef said: does anyone here miss the evening paper? My aunt used to wrap gifts with the Sunday comics. That was her "thing". Now she just hands you the gift, unwrapped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: what's an evening paper? What's a paper? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, ProcessTruster said: ' cost synergies, primarily from the reduction of administrative expenses". that means a bunch of people in WNY get fired Accounting, finance, HR, purchasing positions, for sure. Maybe another round of buyouts for the older (ie, expensive) newsroom types... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 It's a dying industry. Good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Allan Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Gugny said: In the last 5 years, they have depleted the editorial staff to bare bones. They got rid of all copy editing positions. You aren't kidding! Take a look at the last paragraph in an article about the Buffalo area unemployment rate from today's paper. An editor would have quickly caught the obvious error. SMDH "There’s even a disparity across Buffalo Niagara, too. The 4.5% unemployment rate in Erie County is more than a percentage point higher than the 5.6% jobless rate in Niagara County." - David Robinson, Deputy Business Editor for the Buffalo News Rut-Row, Raggy!! 40 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: What's a paper? A website in over-sized print form. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 12 hours ago, teef said: i think that was the name of the evening paper. it was the d and c in the morning, and the thinner times union in the afternoon. i even remember those tiny, weird, square receipts they would give after payment. D&C in the AM, TU in the afternoon. I delivered the paper when I was a young teenager and helped friends on their routes too. 10 hours ago, Dan Darragh said: What's a paper? something I would smack on my hand to alert the dog he did something wrong. Now its just for the weekly coupons you get on Sundays 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, eball said: Countdown until Vic Carucci joins The Athletic...10, 9, 8.... I'd be shocked if the Athletic was interested in Vic..........he's cold product. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Some guy in Korea will be covering the Bills. Wha-ta fu Fungching I think that’s been going on for a while. A few years ago an article recounted a ‘Canadian Royale(sic) Air Force’ helicopter making an emergency landing in Niagara County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 So many things have changed since Al Gore invented the internet ? so many main stays like the paper have went to the way side because of it . Ah i long for the good ole days when dad use to read the paper & use it to smack the dog, or me when i did something wrong, or swat a fly with it, or start a bon fire, puppy pads, or people pads when we wanted to make a mess ah yes the paper had so many good uses & it all is going away because of the internet THANX AL ! Not to mention how real live zombies have become to exist because of it ! When your around any of your kids or grand kids turn on a smart phone or iPad & watch the blank stare that comes across their faces & how they are drawn to it like a buzzard to a dead carcass !! It must be the glow ...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, ChasBB said: Bring back the Courier Express! I still have the final edition. 9/19/82. Three months later I moved out of WNY (I was living in Kenmore) for the final time & never lived there again. The death of the Courier and the end of my time in WNY were very close. I've come back many times for Bills game weekends, but it will never be the same. 2 hours ago, Gugny said: Lee owns our local newspaper, for which I worked (ad sales) for about 9-months after being laid off. In the last 5 years, they have depleted the editorial staff to bare bones. They got rid of all copy editing positions. The paper has become unaffordable. They shut down the printing press and laid off all of those workers - which resulted in the paper being printed an hour away by another newspaper (which it doesn't even own), so delivery is a nightmare (which is why I stopped getting the paper, in addition to them raising the prices about three times/year). Which paper? Edited January 29, 2020 by Albany,n.y. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocemur Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) "Print is Dead." -Dr. Egon Spengler, 1984 Edited January 29, 2020 by ocemur 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 3 hours ago, matter2003 said: Surprisingly the Buffalo News is still profitable even despite their actual readership of daily papers going from 400K to 100K now...technology and targeting business subscriptions to online content has been a huge boon to this. That and AM radio is still viable in Buffalo. Truly old school. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whkfc Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 4 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: LOL Pay wall they basically all draw from a news pool It's funny I had metro pcs and used to get hit with the paywall from BN. Now I'm on Verizon and I get everything but the BN Blitz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 It was, at the time of the beginning of the demise of printed news, an adjustment for many of us old timers who missed the printed news rag. However, even an old cranky guy like me ("get off my lawn") now does not even miss a printed Buffalo News or Rochester Democrat & Chronicle (or even the old "Times Union" for us Senior Citizens). The time for those old rags came & went. I might look at a Buffalo News article again - if there was no pay wall. Otherwise information that is just as good (or usually better) is readily available elsewhere. Many people are now all fired up about the impending NYS Ban on plastic bags at stores - "what will we line our trash cans with at home?". To this we will also adjust - used to wonder what my wife would line the bird cage with without the "paper". Guess what - the bird cage is still lined. Eventually we won't even miss the grocery store bags - just like we don't miss the Buffalo News. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 4 hours ago, aristocrat said: interesting. the snooze was buffet's first newspaper buy. I thought he had a significant position in the Wash. Post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 54 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: I still have the final edition. 9/19/82. Three months later I moved out of WNY (I was living in Kenmore) for the final time & never lived there again. The death of the Courier and the end of my time in WNY were very close. I've come back many times for Bills game weekends, but it will never be the same. Which paper? Post-Star. Schenectady Gazette is doing the printing. A friend of mine was the Editorial writer at the Post-Star. He now does that for the Gazette. Writers there have to paginate their own pieces. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 3 hours ago, eball said: Countdown until Vic Carucci joins The Athletic...10, 9, 8.... Between Graham, Fairburn and Buscaglia they're set. Not to mention they hate Carucci, lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 5 hours ago, teef said: does anyone here miss the evening paper? waits for someone to say "what's reading?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 For 3 easy payments of $79.99 you to can read about the Buffalo Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 6 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: ' cost synergies, primarily from the reduction of administrative expenses". that means a bunch of people in WNY get fired They've been cleaning house for years already My mother worked there for 30+ years and was laid off a few years ago with 98% of her department Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, BillnutinHouston said: Maybe the first time ever that he bought high and sold low. Not sure, but his newspaper venture took a beating: https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/warren-buffett-berkshire-hathaway-sells-newspapers-140-million-lee-enterprises-2020-1-1028855743 6 hours ago, matter2003 said: Surprisingly the Buffalo News is still profitable even despite their actual readership of daily papers going from 400K to 100K now...technology and targeting business subscriptions to online content has been a huge boon to this. Not so sure of that either: http://www.dailypublic.com/articles/05302018/whats-happening-buffalo-news From this article: "the News lost $1.8 million in the first quarter of 2018 (the paper’s first quarterly loss in 40-plus years), management clearly saw it as a state of emergency." Edited January 29, 2020 by I am the egg man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: Not sure, but his newspaper venture took a beating: https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/warren-buffett-berkshire-hathaway-sells-newspapers-140-million-lee-enterprises-2020-1-1028855743 Not so sure of that either: http://www.dailypublic.com/articles/05302018/whats-happening-buffalo-news From this article: "the News lost $1.8 million in the first quarter of 2018 (the paper’s first quarterly loss in 40-plus years), management clearly saw it as a state of emergency." I was just at a software development meeting there a few weeks ago and the VP of IT was demonstrating their use of Golang and was talking about how what they are doing technology wise was allowing them to remain profitable.. Edited January 29, 2020 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 5 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: D&C in the AM, TU in the afternoon. I delivered the paper when I was a young teenager and helped friends on their routes too. something I would smack on my hand to alert the dog he did something wrong. Now its just for the weekly coupons you get on Sundays seriously? Take it to the PPP This entire thread doesn’t belong here so if the entire thread isn’t removed then I guess statements like that are fair game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, matter2003 said: I was just at a software development meeting there a few weeks ago and the VP of IT was demonstrating their use of Golang and was talking about how what they are doing technology wise was allowing them to remain profitable.. Guess I'll have to take your word on that. Maybe many of the 10,000's of WNY'ers who've left the area are online subscribers. The BN would be one of the few profitable papers of the bunch that Buffett sold, given he is losing $200,000,000 in the sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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