DRA3196 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I read in another thread the Bills are hiring a sports psychologist. Maybe they are being brought in for Mariota. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, mjt328 said: One of the primary goals of Free Agency should be to setup the draft, and allow us to go BPA instead of desperately filling holes. This year's draft is very strong at certain positions, and very weak at others. From my vantage point, the #22 spot is going to be a great position for any team in need of a Wide Receiver. There also seem to be some good Running Back and Cornerback options that slip to us the 2nd Round. So my main targets in Free Agency will focus on the spots we probably can't fill in the draft. On top of that list should be pass rusher. My plan would be to re-sign Shaq Lawson, add another DE and then cut Trent Murphy. Guys like Jadeveon Clowney, Yannick Ngakoue or Arik Armstead would be great additions. There are some other guys on the market who could help as well, such as Bud Dupree, Matthew Judon or Shaq Barrett. Someone versatile like Kyle Van Noy would be a great replacement for Lorenzo Alexander. My guess is that Jordan Phillips will not have a huge market, seeing the high number of interior defensive linemen on the market. I would like to get him back on a fair deal. But if the Bills can't get him back, there are lots of other options like Chris Jones, Leonard Williams or Javon Hargrave. The WR market is fools gold this year. Amari Cooper is easily the best option, and he runs very hot and cold. AJ Green and Larry Fitzgerald are pretty much done. Like I said earlier, this is the position to hit in the draft. On the TE side, I think Hunter Henry is the best option available, but is too injury prone and undependable. I think Dawson Knox has more potential that Austin Hooper. Offensive Line is a position I would (maybe) be comfortable keeping relatively the same as 2019. The coaching staff really needs to settle on a long-term position for Cody Ford. If they are confident he can be our Right Tackle, then bring back Quinton Spain and leave the O-Line intact. If they think he projects to guard, then slide him inside and go after Jack Conklin. As a luxury, I would like to make an offer to Byron Jones. Pairing him with Tre White could really make our defense unstoppable. Agreed on Conklin and I'd love to see us add a premier DE along with B Jones. Sign Clowney and let Murphy and Shaq go so we can more easily absorb the cost, then draft an edge rusher to develop as the 4th DE. Our D would be even 2 shades stronger with Oliver returning and let's not forget Phillips x2. Jordan is starting to come on and Harry was playing really well before that unfortunate injury. I'm thinking that replacing Lo won't be as difficult. These moves could make this the best D we've seen in decades. Do we have cap space? I want Spain and Wallace back too. We go WR in the 1st and BPA in rounds 2-7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, McBean said: I’m going to stir the pot here... For me? Marcus Mariota. The kid had a new offensive coordinator every season in Tennessee, they refused to hand the ball to Henry when he was at QB, and he’s already had huge success before in the league. Before you all flame away, he would be a SIGNIFICANT upgrade over Barkley, and what has Tennessee/Philadelphia showed us the past few years? Never hurts to have a good QB 2. Lastly, I’m not sold on Josh Allen. I was extremely bullish on him early on but towards the end of the season my optimism has faded. Who is your number 1 target and why? think he’d be a decent signing but can’t be your primary target for the offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 32 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: Jack Conklin. Likely to hit Free Agency and seems like a good character toughness fit that the Bills covet. I was a Conklin fan until I heard he has had 2 knee surgeries and that they have had to give him help. That tells me he will get overpaid and yet not last long. Pass please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, McBean said: I’m going to stir the pot here... For me? Marcus Mariota. The kid had a new offensive coordinator every season in Tennessee, they refused to hand the ball to Henry when he was at QB, and he’s already had huge success before in the league. Before you all flame away, he would be a SIGNIFICANT upgrade over Barkley, and what has Tennessee/Philadelphia showed us the past few years? Never hurts to have a good QB 2. Lastly, I’m not sold on Josh Allen. I was extremely bullish on him early on but towards the end of the season my optimism has faded. Who is your number 1 target and why? Contestant: Alex, I'll take Words Uttered By No One....Ever Alex: The answer, Marcus Mariota Contestant: Who's my #1 2020 Free Agent target? 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Money aside ....add Cooper and Clowney and we would be a badA$$ team.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBillsFan Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Ngakoue or Clowney and don't resign Shaq and cut Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, McBean said: I’m going to stir the pot here... For me? Marcus Mariota. The kid had a new offensive coordinator every season in Tennessee, they refused to hand the ball to Henry when he was at QB, and he’s already had huge success before in the league. Before you all flame away, he would be a SIGNIFICANT upgrade over Barkley, and what has Tennessee/Philadelphia showed us the past few years? Never hurts to have a good QB 2. Lastly, I’m not sold on Josh Allen. I was extremely bullish on him early on but towards the end of the season my optimism has faded. Who is your number 1 target and why? Bud DUPREE LB Jack Conklin RT Kenyan Drake RB Get the first two on the list and you have improved your both our offense and defense, then draft WR in first round and resign Philips and Lawson. Then you get rid of dead wood like Lee Smith/Murphy/Kroft that saves us over 14 million in cap space 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock'em Sock'em Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, McBean said: Marcus Mariota Of all the possible available FA's, he's your guy? Tennessee seemed to get much better when he was benched. And he wouldn't even start here. Wouldn't you rather have Clowney or Yannick? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, BigBillsFan said: Ngakoue or Clowney and don't resign Shaq and cut Murphy I think Murphy and Kroft need to go, both are pretty much useless and would save Bills over 12 mill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rock'em Sock'em said: Of all the possible available FA's, he's your guy? Tennessee seemed to get much better when he was benched. And he wouldn't even start here. Wouldn't you rather have Clowney or Yannick? I believe Marcus would be a solid backup to Josh in case you know what hits the fan. Marcus didn’t get a fair shake in Tennessee. He’s proven in the past he can be elite. I hope Josh Allen is a top 10 quarterback in the NFL starting next season. I’m really pulling for #17, make no mistake!! However, I believe signing Mariota is excellent value and would only help this team. Just my thoughts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan20 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rock'em Sock'em said: Of all the possible available FA's, he's your guy? Tennessee seemed to get much better when he was benched. And he wouldn't even start here. Wouldn't you rather have Clowney or Yannick? Clowney and Yannick are going to break the bank. Those contracts typically don’t work out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, JetsFan20 said: Clowney and Yannick are going to break the bank. Those contracts typically don’t work out. In your defense, you did hand out one of those contracts on defense last year, and it didn’t exactly work out. Hopefully for y’all, CJ stays healthy in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, McBean said: I believe Marcus would be a solid backup to Josh in case you know what hits the fan. Marcus didn’t get a fair shake in Tennessee. He’s proven in the past he can be elite. I hope Josh Allen is a top 10 quarterback in the NFL starting next season. I’m really pulling for #17, make no mistake!! However, I believe signing Mariota is excellent value and would only help this team. Just my thoughts. Would not be surprised to see him sign with Dolphins for an opportunity to start again, i doubt he wants to backup Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Say what you want. Some of us are keen on your intent, which is to disguise your “not sold” bit in a new thread about looking to upgrade the back-up QB. It’s far juicier than that! He opened it to ALL Free Agents as part of the disguise. And then went immediately for the Hate Point. It was a good topic title, ruined by bad intent. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, JetsFan20 said: Clowney and Yannick are going to break the bank. Those contracts typically don’t work out. At some point you need to have a big play and big pay player, he would be that on our defense. Having said that i think the Bills would have better shot at Bud Dupree LB from Steelers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, offyourocker said: N’gakoue This by a mile and some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, McBean said: I believe Marcus would be a solid backup to Josh in case you know what hits the fan. Marcus didn’t get a fair shake in Tennessee. He’s proven in the past he can be elite. I hope Josh Allen is a top 10 quarterback in the NFL starting next season. I’m really pulling for #17, make no mistake!! However, I believe signing Mariota is excellent value and would only help this team. Just my thoughts. Elite in what way? Did he have a good year, sure, but his best 2 years were year 1 and year 2 in his 5 year career. The in years 3 & 4 he had 24 TDs 23 INTs and his yards per game have gone down every year he's played. Over 4 years as a starter and you believe he didn't get a fair shake? The playoffs have shown us all the Titans need from the QB position is someone not to screw it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, McBean said: I’m going to stir the pot here... For me? Marcus Mariota. The kid had a new offensive coordinator every season in Tennessee, they refused to hand the ball to Henry when he was at QB, and he’s already had huge success before in the league. Before you all flame away, he would be a SIGNIFICANT upgrade over Barkley, and what has Tennessee/Philadelphia showed us the past few years? Never hurts to have a good QB 2. Lastly, I’m not sold on Josh Allen. I was extremely bullish on him early on but towards the end of the season my optimism has faded. Who is your number 1 target and why? It sure the hell isnt a qb what the hell is wrong with you Edited January 13, 2020 by John from Riverside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said: Jack Conklin. Likely to hit Free Agency and seems like a good character toughness fit that the Bills covet. There is no doubt that Conklin would be a great addition. If Conklin hits the market, there will likely be a bidding war to sign him. The cost will be high. I can't see Beane throwing big money at a second offensive lineman (like Morse last year). IMHO Beane will target his free agent spending on a DE or a WR to play outside opposite John Brown. If he resigns Lawson, then WR may jump to the top of his list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Also want G Brandon Scherff ,doubt we go after him though. It would work be better if we just drafted these guys instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, offyourocker said: N’gakoue This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Conklin or an Edge (Yannik). Mariota is a great choice as backup, but I see him in NE or somewhere where he could start. I’d go for quality over quantity in FA this year. We need elite talent. Does not necessarily have to be a expensive (could be a Hyde type signing), but a guy like Conklin will be and is worth it IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan20 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, SCBills said: In your defense, you did hand out one of those contracts on defense last year, and it didn’t exactly work out. Hopefully for y’all, CJ stays healthy in 2020. Paying an ILB 17MM a year was pretty stupid, but CJ Mosley at least is the type of guy who will always play hard. A lot of these guys mail it in once they get paid. Look at who the Jets recently gave out big $ to: Darrelle Revis (2nd tour was a complete mail in) Mo Wilk (Mailed it in) Trumaine Johnson (Mailed it in) CJ Mosley (Injured) Kelechi Osemele (sued the team) LeVeon Bell (Ineffective) The best free agent moves are often the ones you don’t make. Edited January 13, 2020 by JetsFan20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: So you created a new thread to disguise another “I’m not sold on Josh Allen.” Court Martial offense indeed, Lieutenant 2 hours ago, McBean said: I’m going to stir the pot here... For me? Marcus Mariota. The kid had a new offensive coordinator every season in Tennessee, they refused to hand the ball to Henry when he was at QB, and he’s already had huge success before in the league. Before you all flame away, he would be a SIGNIFICANT upgrade over Barkley, and what has Tennessee/Philadelphia showed us the past few years? Never hurts to have a good QB 2. Lastly, I’m not sold on Josh Allen. I was extremely bullish on him early on but towards the end of the season my optimism has faded. Who is your number 1 target and why? - Sometimes a change of scenery and a fresh start can do wonders- not that it would for Mariota but you never know. Brett Favre was traded away from Atlanta and we saw how that went down. For me, I would love Henry but I really believe the Titans tag him if they can’t get a hometown discount, team Friendly deal because they do not have a ton of cap space. That said, Amari Cooper if the Texans let him walk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Clowney and Mathew Slater- pass rush and special teams improved- spend rest of draft picks and FA $ on offensive weapons, depth, and special teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: You need to change your name because the real McBeane isnt that dumb. Mariota does nothing for us, we need someone who can actually help us win. going for RT Jack Conklin. Because Barkley is so good. Brady would be an upgrade over him at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Clowney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Oil Company Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Offense: Daryl Williams (RT), Austin Hooper (TE) Defense: Kyle Van Noy (Strong Side OLB), Arik Armstead (DE) Let Spain and Shaq walk. Draft: Lots of WR's and a RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, McBean said: I’m going to stir the pot here... For me? Marcus Mariota. The kid had a new offensive coordinator every season in Tennessee, they refused to hand the ball to Henry when he was at QB, and he’s already had huge success before in the league. Before you all flame away, he would be a SIGNIFICANT upgrade over Barkley, and what has Tennessee/Philadelphia showed us the past few years? Never hurts to have a good QB 2. Lastly, I’m not sold on Josh Allen. I was extremely bullish on him early on but towards the end of the season my optimism has faded. Who is your number 1 target and why? I agree with your assessment of Allen, but the Barkley criticism is kind of unwarranted for quite a few reasons. Mariota is a joke imo, and isn't even worthy of a backup position. He will flame out of the league in the next 2-3 years. Qb in free agency is one of the last needs of this team. My top pick in FA is either LB, Wr, or DE. There are a few top ones at each postion and id happy with any one of them being filled with someone who fits the current culture of the team. Id leave that decision up to Beane and McD because they havea finger on the pulse of the team and will bring in the proper fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 33 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: - Sometimes a change of scenery and a fresh start can do wonders- not that it would for Mariota but you never know. Brett Favre was traded away from Atlanta and we saw how that went down. Not saying a change in scenery and a fresh can't help, but to compare Favre's and Mariota's situation as anything closed to the same is laughable. Favre only played 1 season with the Falcons attempting 4 passes all year. He was traded because the coach(Glanville) disagreed with the Front Office and refused to play him. Glanville at one point said "It would take a plane crash" for Favre to get any playing time. The front office was offered the 19th pick by the Packers that offseason and the rest is history. Mariota on the other hand has had 5 seasons with the Titans, just shy of 4 1/2 as the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Not saying a change in scenery and a fresh can't help, but to compare Favre's and Mariota's situation as anything closed to the same is laughable. Favre only played 1 season with the Falcons attempting 4 passes all year. He was traded because the coach(Glanville) disagreed with the Front Office and refused to play him. Glanville at one point said "It would take a plane crash" for Favre to get any playing time. The front office was offered the 19th pick by the Packers that offseason and the rest is history. Mariota on the other hand has had 5 seasons with the Titans, just shy of 4 1/2 as the starter. I was prepared for this- I am not comparing them, just pointing out that no one knew Favre would go on to have the career he had. Mariota has a nice tool set but hit a rough patch. I don’t know if he is able to salvage his career or not but it is a possibility. When posters on this board use derogatory statements like “laughable” it adds no value. I try hard to not disrespect people on here. Guys like Rich Gannon and Kurt Warner blossomed late. Edited January 13, 2020 by billsfan_34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Your big splash signing would be a back up QB? Hmmm 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I think I’d say a pass rusher. Ngakoue, Clowney, Vic Beasley even? I just want a guy who can be a consistent 8-10 and allow them to 1) wait until the 2nd round to draft a DE 2) cut Murphy after the draft. a 4 man oration of Vic Beasley/Hughes on one end, and Shaq/2nd round pick on the other end would be a solid rotation in my estimation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, TwistofFate said: I agree with your assessment of Allen, but the Barkley criticism is kind of unwarranted for quite a few reasons. If nothing else this place is good for a laugh. Barkley is horrible, 10 TDs 21 INTs in his career(INT% of 6.1), career QB Rating of 65.7 and has only 2 pretty good games in his 7 year career. He shouldn't even be a backup in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: I was prepared for this- I am not comparing them, just pointing out that no one knew Favre would go on to have the career he had. Mariota has a nice tool set but hit a rough patch. I don’t know if he is able to salvage his career or not but it is a possibility. When posters on this board use derogatory statements like “laughable” it adds no value. I try hard to not disrespect people on here. Guys like Rich Gannon and Kurt Warner blossomed late. Ron Wolfe thought he was the best player in the 1991 draft and traded the 19th pick in the 1992 draft even though Favre drafted in the 2nd round just one year prior and flunked the physical due to a hip injury from a car wreck. Wolfe waived the contingency for a physical because the team doctor wouldn't pass him. Based on that information, I'm pretty sure Wolfe knew Favre was special. And stop with the it's derogatory to say their situations are anything close to the same is laughable, it's not. For every Gannon & Warner there's hundreds that don't blossom late and see their careers run short. Mariota has been going backwards for 3 straight years, chances are he doesn't ever return to the numbers he had in his 2nd year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 3 hours ago, frostbitmic said: 1A. Jordan Phillips 1B. Shaq Lawson I actually don't want Jordan Phillips back that much. At least not at his price. We've got Phillips coming back. I'de rather invest on the edge. If you take Phillips + Murphy you have around $15-17 million. I'de rather spend that on a DE. I would also try to re-sign Shaq. The free agent I want to sign the most is Yannick Njakoue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Not sure who the FAs will be yet, as some will sign last minute before hitting the market. Pretty sure of one FA signing that won’t do much of anything to propel the Bills closer to a championship ; a new backup QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Ron Wolfe thought he was the best player in the 1991 draft and traded the 19th pick in the 1992 draft even though Favre drafted in the 2nd round just one year prior and flunked the physical due to a hip injury from a car wreck. Wolfe waived the contingency for a physical because the team doctor wouldn't pass him. Based on that information, I'm pretty sure Wolfe knew Favre was special. And stop with the it's derogatory to say their situations are anything close to the same is laughable, it's not. For every Gannon & Warner there's hundreds that don't blossom late and see their careers run short. Mariota has been going backwards for 3 straight years, chances are he doesn't ever return to the numbers he had in his 2nd year. Ok you win. Take care. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 hours ago, peterpan said: Maybe Amari Cooper. I'd like Clowney but really should be on O. Process guys? I think not. 3 hours ago, krf139 said: When anyone raises the slightest ounce of skepticism of Josh and our bottom 5 pass offense, they are immediately dismissed on this board. Very odd and You’re next. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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