Steptide Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Kinda hope he stays with the Patriots. I want to win the division next year with him in it 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I just came here to say ***** Tom Brady 8 8 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 21 minutes ago, Steptide said: Kinda hope he stays with the Patriots. I want to win the division next year with him in it Be careful what you wish for.. Manning was a shell of his former self his last year... the Broncos still won the SB. Just because someone has lost a step doesn’t mean when healthy he still isn’t better than most others in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I want him out of the division. I never want to see him again, let alone twice each year. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Be careful what you wish for.. Manning was a shell of his former self his last year... the Broncos still won the SB. Just because someone has lost a step doesn’t mean when healthy he still isn’t better than most others in the game. Brady was already a shell of himself this year. We saw how that goes, Pats just arent that good with him at QB offensively. Didn't translate to wins for us against you guys for a few reasons. But I wont mind if he's playing for the Pats again next season, which I fully expect. He will never be the reason you guys beat us again, I am confident of that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: I want him out of the division. I never want to see him again, let alone twice each year. i'm grateful the Colts left the AFC East or it would have been Peyton and Tom for an 0-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: I want him out of the division. I never want to see him again, let alone twice each year. I don’t care about playing him personally. It’s their defense/ST that is beating the Bills now. That is what we need to overcome at this point, not Brady. He’s not getting it done vs the Bills anymore. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 He’s definitely staying in NE. They’re going to have to go hard after a big WR, a TE, and probably a center and another back that they trust as much as White if they want to make a run, because Brady isn’t TOM BRADY anymore 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: He’s definitely staying in NE. They’re going to have to go hard after a big WR, a TE, and probably a center and another back that they trust as much as White if they want to make a run, because Brady isn’t TOM BRADY anymore I think he is gone. They won’t be able to surround him with enough premium talent, so if he returns, it will basically be a repeat of this year (throwing to a 38-year old TE and raw rookie receivers). I think he will go to a really offensively talent-rich team and try to light it up. To me, Cleveland makes the most sense especially if they sign McDaniels. Every skill player on that team is better than every one on NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I hope he stays and we do to him what we did to Favre: end the reign (I liked Favre, though). Cant agree enough with what Yolo said above: it’s not about him anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Be careful what you wish for.. Manning was a shell of his former self his last year... the Broncos still won the SB. Just because someone has lost a step doesn’t mean when healthy he still isn’t better than most others in the game. I think you're missing the point. Whether he's a shell of himself or not, it would be nice to actually beat him instead of waiting out his retirement. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 To the surprise of absolutely no one. I hope he stays with the Patriots* and continues to regress at a rapid pace. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 This seems like a good place to put this. Now we get to look forward to more strange outfits that his wife makes him wear. ? 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 35 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Be careful what you wish for.. Manning was a shell of his former self his last year... the Broncos still won the SB. Just because someone has lost a step doesn’t mean when healthy he still isn’t better than most others in the game. Actually that’s what I said this year - I thought they could still get there because of their defense. Nope 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: I think you're missing the point. Whether he's a shell of himself or not, it would be nice to actually beat him instead of waiting out his retirement. I don’t know why that would be great. It would basically being age beating him, not us. Let’s face it— he owned us for 20 years. Even if we win now, it’s because he becomes too old. I’d rather not face the guy, because there is also a chance he puts up a Peyton Manning-like 2013 season if surrounded by the proper talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 As a fan who's much older than Marsha, all I can say is; I wish I could tell you it is going to get better. It's not! The dumbas* should have retired while he was still on top. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: I think he is gone. They won’t be able to surround him with enough premium talent, so if he returns, it will basically be a repeat of this year (throwing to a 38-year old TE and raw rookie receivers). I think he will go to a really offensively talent-rich team and try to light it up. To me, Cleveland makes the most sense especially if they sign McDaniels. Every skill player on that team is better than every one on NE. That's the catch-22. I was actually reading the Pats boards last week and someone said: Keep the defense together Gather weapons for offense Re-sign Tom Brady Pick 2. All 3 is impossible. Even if offensive weapons are gathered, and Brady is retained, will it matter? They arent getting a generational (dare I say GOAT) Tight End any time soon or forever. Outside of slants and screens, Brady is unable to stretch the field or throw good sideline-out passes with any sort of consistency anymore. They already have Edelman for the slants. Screens they do a good job, but when a team defends the screen and tackles well? The only way I see this continuing, is if Brady re-ups for a pay cut, they improve the offense, and keep the defense intact It is also very tough to "get weapons". The Patriots have thrived for 20 years due to their ability to succeed without a glut of weapons and over-spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 39 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Be careful what you wish for.. Manning was a shell of his former self his last year... the Broncos still won the SB. Just because someone has lost a step doesn’t mean when healthy he still isn’t better than most others in the game. Yes, but they won in spite of Manning. Not because of him. He was not good. And it wasn't one of those scenarios where he was still better than everyone else. If I remember correctly, there was a lot of talk about maybe letting Brock Osweiler take the reins for the playoffs. Manning suffered a foot injury, and almost lost his job permanently because Osweiler came in and played better than he had before the injury. It was his worst year statistically since his rookie season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 41 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: I want him out of the division. I never want to see him again, let alone twice each year. Don't be afraid of the old man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuelTime Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 If I was the GM of the Patriots, I would trade a first rounder (or whatever it takes) for Teddy Bridgewater and ask Brady if he wants to be a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 43 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Be careful what you wish for.. Manning was a shell of his former self his last year... the Broncos still won the SB. Just because someone has lost a step doesn’t mean when healthy he still isn’t better than most others in the game. I think the Broncos won in spite of Manning. He couldn't throw the ball 20 yards downfield. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 40 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: He’s definitely staying in NE. They’re going to have to go hard after a big WR, a TE, and probably a center and another back that they trust as much as White if they want to make a run, because Brady isn’t TOM BRADY anymore Yeah, he’s not Brady Brady but it was far more than him. Their wrs kinda sucked, their rbs weren’t good, and their o line had a bunch of injuries. he isn’t the best qb anymore but he can still be pretty good. 7 minutes ago, klos63 said: I think the Broncos won in spite of Manning. He couldn't throw the ball 20 yards downfield. That’s true. Brady is far better than Manning was at that point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) John Elway is getting ready to pick up the phone...honestly that might not be a bad idea...their defense might be good enough with Brady there for a year. Hell, WE might be good enough with Brady here, but there is no way the Bills do that. The Broncos have Locke but he wasn't a first round pick and only started a few games so they could slide Brady in and use that as an excuse to give him a learning year under the best. Edited January 8, 2020 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, CLTbills said: Yes, but they won in spite of Manning. Not because of him. He was not good. And it wasn't one of those scenarios where he was still better than everyone else. If I remember correctly, there was a lot of talk about maybe letting Brock Osweiler take the reins for the playoffs. Manning suffered a foot injury, and almost lost his job permanently because Osweiler came in and played better than he had before the injury. It was his worst year statistically since his rookie season. but what about 2013? Manning had the best season ever for a QB as an old man Bronco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I'd be surprised but not shocked if he went somewhere else next year. Can't wait for Pats* fans to boo him when he comes back to Gillette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: I don’t know why that would be great. It would basically being age beating him, not us. Let’s face it— he owned us for 20 years. Even if we win now, it’s because he becomes too old. I’d rather not face the guy, because there is also a chance he puts up a Peyton Manning-like 2013 season if surrounded by the proper talent. I get your point, I don't think it would be great or take away the 20 years of dominance. But your second point about Peyton kind of argues against your first. If you'd rather not face him then beating him is still accomplishing something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 56 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Be careful what you wish for.. Manning was a shell of his former self his last year... the Broncos still won the SB. Just because someone has lost a step doesn’t mean when healthy he still isn’t better than most others in the game. Get bent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I think it was always a question of whether he would be in NE, not whether he would retire. Despite all the talk and speculation in the media, is guess there is close to 0 chance he plays somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I don’t think teams are afraid of Brady anymore. The Patriots************** will go as far as their defense takes them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I have no love for the Patriots or Brady, but his statement is a pretty accurate description of the culture McDermott is cultivating in Buffalo. I do think it's going to become harder for Belichick (and Brady if he stays) to continue the level of success of the Patriots over the past 2 decades. I hope Buffalo is ready to step in the gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Steptide said: Kinda hope he stays with the Patriots. I want to win the division next year with him in it Totally agree. His record against the Bills is going to be laughable regardless but hopefully it can still end on a positive note for Buffalo. Not the case right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Good for him. Best QB ever and it's not even up for debate. My only hope for him is that he ends his career healthy. I hope he sucks to the point of embarrassing himself and his entire family ... but I hope he can do that and literally walk away from the game on his terms. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuseBill Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Love the quote from Teddy Roosevelt... and like Teddy Roosevelt and the Rough Riders charging up San Juan Hill, the Patriots will suffer many casualties when they have to play the Bills twice next year! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 44 minutes ago, TuelTime said: If I was the GM of the Patriots, I would trade a first rounder (or whatever it takes) for Teddy Bridgewater and ask Brady if he wants to be a backup. Why? Bridgewater is a FA just sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, PaattMaann said: Brady was already a shell of himself this year. We saw how that goes, Pats just arent that good with him at QB offensively. Didn't translate to wins for us against you guys for a few reasons. But I wont mind if he's playing for the Pats again next season, which I fully expect. He will never be the reason you guys beat us again, I am confident of that. Mid way 2018 Brady started to decline and never regained his form. Arm strength diminished, accuracy wasn’t as precise, and he does not slide around the pocket like he once did. Soon his mind will not be as crisp either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Age catches up to everyone. Eventually. And even though it seemed like this day was never going to come, it appears to have finally reached Tom Brady. Don't get me wrong. He still has the ability to have good games occasionally. But I don't think he's good enough to carry an offense by himself anymore, which is something he's been able to do for 15-20 years now. Outside of Randy Moss (for two seasons) and Rob Gronkowski (who was always hurt), Brady hasn't ever been surrounded with Pro-Bowl talent. His running backs have always been average/below average. And I believe guys like Julian Edelman, Wes Welker, Deion Branch and Troy Brown were successful because of Brady. Not the other way around. I think Bill Belichick realizes this. Which is why he drafted a Wide Receiver in the first round for the first time ever, and went after Antonio Brown when he got cut. He knows that Brady needs help now, and can't do it alone anymore. They desperately need to surround Brady with more talent. The problem is, the Patriots have a ton of free agents (around 20 with several starters, including Brady himself). They also don't have a second round pick, and will need to make the tough decision whether to use their first rounder on a future QB. The smart decision for the Patriots would be to cut ties with Brady, and start rebuilding for the future. But I don't know if their pride will allow this. If they bring back Brady, they won't be able to afford to give him enough surrounding help. And they will set-back their ability to build for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I hope he stays and the Pats go 8 - 8. He should of went out on top. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Sports media must be absolutely salivating at the potential to name him "comeback player of the year" next year if he has even an adequate season. Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Mid way 2018 Brady started to decline and never regained his form. Arm strength diminished, accuracy wasn’t as precise, and he does not slide around the pocket like he once did. Soon his mind will not be as crisp either. While I agree with this, have we ever had a qb who had 4,000 yards and 24 tds as Brady declined too this year? Edited January 8, 2020 by C.Biscuit97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, Gugny said: Good for him. Best QB ever and it's not even up for debate. My only hope for him is that he ends his career healthy. I hope he sucks to the point of embarrassing himself and his entire family ... but I hope he can do that and literally walk away from the game on his terms. Yes it is. When Matt Cassel can get 11 wins in NE ..... the debate is to be had 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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