zonabb Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said: perfectly explained and it was a personal foul So instead, a league supposedly concerned about injuries, won't allow a clear front should to front shoulder block to protect a QB from getting lit up. NFL is a joke, worst reffed league with the worst, most inconsistently officiated rules. Don't blame the refs for the loss, that's on Daboll, from his refusal to continue to feed Singletary the ball in favor of Gore to his having a play call with a useless FB running a 30 yard go route. This league is execution and playcalling, Daboll sucks at the latter and his players are questionable at the former. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, Rubes said: It's s ***** call, but it's still the rule. You can't block someone while facing your own end zone. Agree. Its a dumb rule. Its one of a few rules that i think are over the top trying to protect players. Sort of like high sticking in hockey. Intent doesn't matter. You need to be on control of the stick. There need to be some leeway for the refs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Former Head of Officiatings take That’s about as solid of a statement anyone will see 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Búfalo Blanco Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Former Head of Officiatings take Damn... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Former Head of Officiatings take I was just gonna say this...that rule is making contact with head, shoulder, or forearm. It doesnt mean you cant put hands on the dude 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Thank you for posting the picture. Ford just needs to stand in the guys way. He is clearly facing the wrong way. It's the correct call. 16 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Hope this ends this failthread Read the rule carefully. Offensive player can't INITIATE contact. Did Ford initiate contact or did 54 initiate contact. Looks really close, huh? it was a BS call. Common sense didn't prevail. On on a related topic, Bellicheck know the rules backwards and forwards. He would have called TO, jumped and screamed to make sure Bills were awarded that TD on the kickoff. He didn't signal fair catch or take a knee, like every other KO reciev r does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, zonabb said: So instead, a league supposedly concerned about injuries, won't allow a clear front should to front shoulder block to protect a QB from getting lit up. NFL is a joke, worst reffed league with the worst, most inconsistently officiated rules. Don't blame the refs for the loss, that's on Daboll, from his refusal to continue to feed Singletary the ball in favor of Gore to his having a play call with a useless FB running a 30 yard go route. This league is execution and playcalling, Daboll sucks at the latter and his players are questionable at the former. I agree completely with all of this IT is a dumb rule applied to areas that it should not be and this was one of those it should of not be called As for OT agree 100% I was scratching my head at why no runs with singletary was no need to rush down just take your time march down and kick the FG ... they seemed to be playing in a end of the game rushed mode imo and not very patient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassHog Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Calls like these dont help with the thoughts that the NFL is rigged. I think I am out for the rest of the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, MassHog said: Calls like these dont help with the thoughts that the NFL is rigged. I think I am out for the rest of the playoffs. I have been done with NFL for years. Only watch Bills games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassHog Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, VirginiaMike said: That was a BS call and Booger is BS for supporting it. Booger is a F*ing idiot. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racecitybills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, MassHog said: That was one of the worst calls I have ever seen. He laid a block at 2 o'clock, if it was 5,6, or 7, I understand the call. Refs would not call that for any other team. Face to face. Horrible call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BisonMan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Former Head of Officiatings take I just watched both replays again. Can’t agree with this from MP. It clearly looks like he lead with both shoulder and forearms on this play from an up-field position. Pretty clear penalty under the rules and hard to miss at that point by the ref. A dumb and unnecessary block as well because Allen was already clear if the defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I've never seen that call with a player running laterally down the line of scrimmage. bull#### call. Awful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolfootball1963 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 This play is in overtime, Allen runs around the right side for 5 yards on 3rd down. The bills are about to possibly win the game in ot if their FG kicker makes a 50 yard FG in OT. Then the refs say no it’s a personal foul for a blind side hit. Ok let’s look at it. A blind side hit is when you blow some one up and the guy ends up on the ground. It’s also usually from the back. Now you tell me if this was the patriots this would be called. This was nothing happened on this play they were both facing each other also on the last drive for Houston on 3 down and 18 yards the clock ran out by a full second. We rewound it and watched it 4 times it was more then a second. The texans made the first down when the guy dove. There was a review and I thought they were looking at the clock ⏰ and if he made the line to gain for the 1st down. Just 2 reasons why this was caused things to end the way they did. Houston made a great comeback. But the NFL has to do a better job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) You don't make that call, period. That was one of the most egregious in a horribly officiated game. Edited January 5, 2020 by Doc 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, MJS said: Intent of the rule? The rule has nothing to do with intent, only actions. His action was illegal. Just YE OLE’s 2 cents... what you’re saying is true, but none of these rules are called in a vacuum. Things like intent, severity, and a host of other factors always come into play. The odd second half kickoff/TD they took off the board is a perfect example. To the letter of the law, the official obviously didn’t feel like he gave himself up and called it a TD. However “after discussion” they reversed it and the term “common sense” started getting thrown around in ensuing analysis of the whole debacle. To the letter of the law, there also holding, PI, illegal contact, etc. on a majority of snaps. Watt, 100% landed his full weight on Allen at one point, which we’ve seen called and then not called. All of the rules are called subjectively, so things like intent and “spirit of the rule” always come into play. Again... YE OLE’s two cents is they generally let them play all day, and didn’t call a very tight game. Nobody was getting injured based on Ford’s actions. That’s a really tough call to make in OT of a playoff game. Edited January 5, 2020 by Cotton Fitzsimmons 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Announcers said it was the right call immediately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Was not the best call and was not blind side. Hit the guy on the numbers. There is a point where NFL players just have to be aware of their surroundings or risk being de-cleated fair and square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Doc said: You don't make that call, period. Common Sense didn’t prevail in this particular instance... funny how Common Sense officiating cost the Bills mightly today... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BisonMan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, WideNine said: Was not the best call and was not blind side. Hit the guy on the numbers. There is a point where NFL players just have to be aware of their surroundings or risk being de-cleated fair and square. Blindside blocks are not blocks in the back. They don’t require the guy to get “blown up” or get knocked down. Read the rule as it has been posted a number of times in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, row_33 said: Announcers said it was the right call immediately I think they were wrong. I don’t automatically sign up for what Booger says. On any level. In fact, I try to ignore him. Face mask to face mask. That’s no penalty in my eye. . Edited January 5, 2020 by Augie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, BisonMan said: Blindside blocks are not blocks in the back. They don’t require the guy to get “blown up” or get knocked down. Read the rule as it has been posted a number of times in this thread. They need to be unseen. This one wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 55 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: Didn't see any crack back block on that call. Took us out of field goal range and a chance to win right there. Tic Tac b.s. call. Frustrated.... You could watch another 100 games and won't see that call again. Nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, MassHog said: That was one of the worst calls I have ever seen. He laid a block at 2 o'clock, if it was 5,6, or 7, I understand the call. Refs would not call that for any other team. Come on....they would call that for the Patriots all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Unnecessary call. Killed us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, B-Large said: Common Sense didn’t prevail in this particular instance... funny how Common Sense officiating cost the Bills mightly today... it was ‘common sense’ to straight up ignore the rules of the game on the kickoff, but obviously had to call a suuuuuuuuuuuper questionable crack back on an game changing play....lol typical NFL 1 minute ago, BisonMan said: Blindside blocks are not blocks in the back. They don’t require the guy to get “blown up” or get knocked down. Read the rule as it has been posted a number of times in this thread. ‘Forcible contact’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suorangefan4 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, row_33 said: Announcers said it was the right call immediately The announcer, Booger McFarland is one of the biggest morons out there. Look at Mike Perreira's twitter post. He admitted it was wrong. There was no forcible contact. Forcible is part of the terminology in that rule too. Edited January 5, 2020 by suorangefan4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, MassHog said: That was one of the worst calls I have ever seen. He laid a block at 2 o'clock, if it was 5,6, or 7, I understand the call. Refs would not call that for any other team. He was literally looking right at Ford. That call cost us a chance to win. Not to mention no holding call on 3rd & 18. Very few penalties on Houston. What a shocker. Edited January 5, 2020 by LABILLBACKER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock'em Sock'em Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, MassHog said: That was one of the worst calls I have ever seen. Giving the Bills a touchdown on the opening 2nd half kickoff was probably the worst call I've seen. Not glad, but glad they got that right in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 The rule is "forcible contact" - it was a half-hearted block by Ford. Weak call. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassHog Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, suorangefan4 said: The announcer, Booger McFarland is one of the biggest morons out there. Look at Mike Perreira's twitter post. He admitted it was wrong. There was no forceable contact. Mcfarland is the biggest idiot they've ever put on the booth 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Cotton Fitzsimmons said: Just YE OLE’s 2 cents... what you’re saying is true, but none of these rules are called in a vacuum. Things like intent, severity, and a host of other factors always come into play. The odd second half kickoff/TD they took off the board is a perfect example. To the letter of the law, the official obviously didn’t feel like he gave himself up and called it a TD. However “after discussion” they reversed it and the term “common sense” started getting thrown around in ensuing analysis of the whole debacle. To the letter of the law, there also holding, PI, illegal contact, etc. on a majority of snaps. Watt, 100% landed his full weight on Allen at one point, which we’ve seen called and then not called. All of the rules are called subjectively, so things like intent and “spirit of the rule” always come into play. Again... YE OLE’s two cents is they generally let them play all day, and didn’t call a very tight game. Nobody was getting injured based on Ford’s actions. That’s a really tough call to make in OT of a playoff game. Exactly! If you wanna change the rule that the Titans clearly broke by not kneeling or signaling fair catch by using common sense, then they need to realize that that call against Ford at that junction of the game should not be called. But of course only the Texans get that benefit, along with numerous other calls. It's not surprising, but always stings a bit when you have to tolerate this crap year after year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 how can it be a blindside block if he's not blindsided ? Super touchy call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Anyone catch Booger's idiotic "they should run a draw play (on 3rd down) and then spike the ball comment? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, MassHog said: Mcfarland is the biggest idiot they've ever put on the booth booger was sure smooching the Bills when they were winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I think that's a 54 yard fg attempt to win also. Very disappointing call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, BisonMan said: I just watched both replays again. Can’t agree with this from MP. It clearly looks like he lead with both shoulder and forearms on this play from an up-field position. Pretty clear penalty under the rules and hard to miss at that point by the ref. A dumb and unnecessary block as well because Allen was already clear if the defender. But the former head of officiating says it was a bad call. Why hold on to defending it? Here’s the thing—it certainly can be called. You take the lines on the field, you consider the players position relative to said lines, you consider whether the “contact” was “forceable” or not—whatever the **** that means in a game where violent collisions are the norm, and you pay particular attention to the forearms head and shoulder of said player. The question is, why the **** was the flag thrown at a critical moment on national stage in first game of the playoffs when it is fairly common knowledge that a fair amount of contact is let go in every *****ing play? Holding calls are ignored. Defensive backs are allowed to contact players outside the rules. A player like Watt can sack a Qb and land on him, forcefully, pretty obviously against the rules—-in a scenario where virtually every fan of every team thinks it’s a BS rule to begin with—-and a call made many times is not made then? This in a league they can’t consistently call a face mask penalty? Yet here, the former head of officiating says there was not forceable contact in violation of the rule...and it kills a drive dead in its tracks. I’m thinking the rule is there to protect the other player, hence the “forceable” v “any”. Sh*tty call, game-altering, and while I’m no longer a conspiracy guy, it certainly feeds the conspiracy minded. I personally think the officiating is simply unprofessional. Average age appears to be 75, the guys are perpetually out of position, and they are as inconsistent as ****. league attendance lowest in 15 years, and this is a big reason why. Edited January 5, 2020 by leh-nerd skin-erd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 They get technical with that call but not the other one in the end zone. so one for the Texans nullified for common sense. The other left because.....Bills. No common sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 It was a horrible call behind the play with no intent to injure. That shouldn’t be called in the postseason. Ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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