Dolphins hire Chan Gailey as OC

[Scott7975]

Darn I was hoping to bring him back here if Daboll took a HC job. I think his offense would be great here. 

[hemma]

I really liked Chan.  Still remember his goodbye speech.

 

If he manages to get himself a decent OL, they could be a tough out.

[MAJBobby]

First wins the starting job. They fire the younger up and coming OC and go hire Fitz Go too OC. Ha ha ha 

[TigerJ]

2 hours ago, H2o said:

Chan was good with the offensive side of the ball, he just wasn't a good head coach. If they get a couple more playmakers and fix that OL I would expect them to take a nice 2nd year step forward under Flores. 

Agreed.  He seemed to leave something to be desired in the hiring of assistant coaches, particularly on the defensive side of the ball.  Then he demonstrated loyalty to people who should have been canned. He has a nice offensive system though.  It's both QB friendly and productive in the running game.

[4BillsintheBurgh]

14 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

First wins the starting job. They fire the younger up and coming OC and go hire Fitz Go too OC. Ha ha ha 

Have you started drinking already? Guess it could be me reading it like you're loaded.

Edited December 31, 2019 by 4BillsintheBurgh

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:

Have you started drinking already?

o’Shea is the younger up and coming OC and did a very good job with the trash talent in MIA. And also turned Parker into a viable WR. 
 

fire him for a dinosaur that has many connections to Fitz. Yeah smart move choosing Fitz as your 2020 QB. 

[4BillsintheBurgh]

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

o’Shea is the younger up and coming OC and did a very good job with the trash talent in MIA. And also turned Parker into a viable WR. 
 

fire him for a dinosaur that has many connections to Fitz. Yeah smart move choosing Fitz as your 2020 QB. 

I get what you're saying, just sounds funnier with a drunk slur.

[Doc]

The definition of insanity (stupidity really) is doing what has been done over and over and expecting different results.  The Dols will learn their lesson with Fitz next year.

[chris heff]

Guess the Dolphins will be looking for a “water bug” type running back.

[chris heff]

Heard they also reached out to Don Coryell.

[BuffaloRebound]

I actually think this shows well on the Dolphins as an organization.  They’re most likely gonna draft Tua who won’t be ready to play.  Fitz brought them respectability this year.  You don’t just tank and then suddenly expect young draft picks to turn an organization around.  Ask Cleveland how that’s turned out.  They’re clearly trying to make Fitz happy with the Gailey move and I think that is a hell of a lot smarter than starting over with a lesser placeholder than Fitzmagic.  

[BananaB]

3 hours ago, JMF2006 said:

Looks like Fitzmagic is pencilled in for starter....again.

 

He goes to every team as BU QB then wins the starting job gets a contract then falls on his beard

I was thinking the same thing

[Shooter McGavin]

Itsatuffgamefortuffpaple

[Another Fan]

The 2010 Bills went 4-4 their last four games and showed promise at the end of that season.  Enough for me to wanna see Fitz coming back in 2011.

 

Crazy 9 years later history might be repeating itself in the division 

 

 

2 hours ago, Doc said:

Are Fred Jackson and Stevie Johnson far behind?

Stevie still looks like he could ball out as of last year.  Heck I wouldn’t mind bringing him back in training camp 

[Warren Zevon]

I think a team hiring an OC to placate their journeyman QB is dumb, but hey, they're the Dolphins for a reason. 

Edited December 31, 2019 by Gary Busey

[DuckyBoys]

dont know how well his ideas will hold up almost a decade later but Chan was a very good OC

[BADOLBILZ]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Chan's retirements never last long. Retired after fired by KC as OC. Retired again after fired by the Bills as HC. Retired again after fired by the Jets as OC.

 

Nice guy. And his spread style offenses are ironically a better fit in the NFL now than they were 10 years ago. Nobody knows Fitz like Chan.

 

 

Gailey is a good example of why Brian Daboll doesn't get more respect.........he doesn't deserve it.  

 

In 2011 and 2012 Gailey got more production out of notably less talent than Daboll has now.   He's more often than not coached above the talent. 

 

For all I know Daboll could be a great leader of men and make a great HC.........which Gailey was NOT............but as an OC Daboll has proven time and again that he gives you not one iota better than the talent you give him.  

 

Edited December 31, 2019 by BADOLBILZ

[ComradeKayAdams]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Gailey is a good example of why Brian Daboll doesn't get more respect.........he doesn't deserve it.  

 

In 2011 and 2012 Gailey got more production out of notably less talent than Daboll has now.   He's more often than not coached above the talent. 

 

For all I know Daboll could be a great leader of men and make a great HC.........which Gailey was NOT............but as an OC Daboll has proven time and again that he gives you not one iota better than the talent you give him.  

 

 

Gailey designed a creative spread offense to maximize the limited talent he had at the moment. Daboll appears to be laying the foundation of a complex Erhardt-Perkins system that will benefit Allen in the long-term, though currently without all the requisite pieces surrounding the QB. Gailey had a 6th/7th/8th year pro with Fitzpatrick. Daboll is still teaching Allen some QB fundamentals that he never learned in high school and college. So two very different situations! This probably reads as if I'm a Daboll apologist. I'm really not, though. I will call for his firing if next season's offense isn't at least comfortably within the top half of the league.

[SoTier]

6 hours ago, JMF2006 said:

Looks like Fitzmagic is pencilled in for starter....again.

 

He goes to every team as BU QB then wins the starting job gets a contract then falls on his beard

 

This time, though, he seems to be improving the longer he plays, which is a new scenario for Fitzy.

[dave mcbride]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Gailey is a good example of why Brian Daboll doesn't get more respect.........he doesn't deserve it.  

 

In 2011 and 2012 Gailey got more production out of notably less talent than Daboll has now.   He's more often than not coached above the talent. 

 

For all I know Daboll could be a great leader of men and make a great HC.........which Gailey was NOT............but as an OC Daboll has proven time and again that he gives you not one iota better than the talent you give him.  

 

They were not a good offense in 2012: 21st in points, 19th in yards, 20th in offensive DVOA, and 28th in offensive turnovers. That's not the worst in the world, but it's basically where the Bills' offense was this season albeit with worse turnover numbers.

[egd]

6 hours ago, FluffHead said:

Chan and fitz, the two best friends that anyone could have! 
 

@TomPelissero: Blast from the past: Chan Gailey is coming out of retirement to become the #Dolphins’ offensive coordinator, sources tell me and @RapSheet.

 

Crap. The Dolphins are going to be good now. Gailey is a Super Bowl winning coach.

 

In addition, Fitzpatrick has defeated the Patriots on all three other AFC East teams. He is the Patriot killer.

Edited December 31, 2019 by egd

[delirious]

Chain Gailey is a tough coach for tough people

[Big Blitz]

How freaking terrible must Rosen be?

 

This is the last coach on the planet I'd think you'd pair with him.  The move sounds like one hoping to get Fitz to stay.  

[WhoTom]

10 minutes ago, egd said:

Fitzpatrick has defeated the Patriots on all three other AFC East teams. He is the Patriot killer.

 

Funny coincidence: 

• Fitz played college football in New England.
• Fitz has played for every AFCE team EXCEPT New England.
• Fitz has beaten New England with every one of those AFCE teams.

I think there's more to that ring he wears than we can all imagine. Does it have an Elvish inscription?

 

[delirious]

4 minutes ago, WhoTom said:

 

I think there's more to that ring he wears than we can all imagine. Does it have an Elvish inscription?

 

 

It gives him extra motivation not to get degloved

[ColoradoBills]

11 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

How freaking terrible must Rosen be?

 

This is the last coach on the planet I'd think you'd pair with him.  The move sounds like one hoping to get Fitz to stay.  

 

Fitz is under contract with them next year.  I don't think Rosen is important in their future plans.

[BADOLBILZ]

53 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

They were not a good offense in 2012: 21st in points, 19th in yards, 20th in offensive DVOA, and 28th in offensive turnovers. That's not the worst in the world, but it's basically where the Bills' offense was this season albeit with worse turnover numbers.

 

 

The Bills are 30th in scoring in the Daboll era.

 

1 hour ago, KayAdams said:

 

Gailey designed a creative spread offense to maximize the limited talent he had at the moment. Daboll appears to be laying the foundation of a complex Erhardt-Perkins system that will benefit Allen in the long-term, though currently without all the requisite pieces surrounding the QB. Gailey had a 6th/7th/8th year pro with Fitzpatrick. Daboll is still teaching Allen some QB fundamentals that he never learned in high school and college. So two very different situations! This probably reads as if I'm a Daboll apologist. I'm really not, though. I will call for his firing if next season's offense isn't at least comfortably within the top half of the league.

 

 

I don't disagree about what they are trying to do with Allen.    But I also think a lot of square peg/round hole situations start out with the similar intention.   "I know EP.......I teach EP......we are going to run EP".    I think it's good for Allen to learn a complex system but if he doesn't start succeeding it could be for naught.   Gailey excelled at adapting offenses to the talent whether it be Tomczak/Stewart or Aikman or Tyler Thigpen or Fitz.   Very different guys.   All were impressed what he could do with poor surrounding talent.   Daboll has always gotten garbage out of garbage on the results scale.     

[dave mcbride]

5 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

The Bills are 30th in scoring in the Daboll era.

 

 

 

I don't disagree about what they are trying to do with Allen.    But I also think a lot of square peg/round hole situations start out with the similar intention.   "I know EP.......I teach EP......we are going to run EP".    I think it's good for Allen to learn a complex system but if he doesn't start succeeding it could be for naught.   Gailey excelled at adapting offenses to the talent whether it be Tomczak/Stewart or Aikman or Tyler Thigpen or Fitz.   Very different guys.   All were impressed what he could do with poor surrounding talent.   Daboll has always gotten garbage out of garbage on the results scale.     

The "Daboll era." The "Gailey era" averages out to about 22nd, but I don't want to play that game. The context of individual years matters. Please factor in that context, particularly the historically bad offensive roster last season. You're better than that, man.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Dick Jauron currently rifling through household drawers, looking for his ‘little black book’ of coaching contacts...

Edited December 31, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[BobbyC81]

9 hours ago, Mango said:

Aye, bands back together again. 
 

love it

 

CJ Spiller and Stevie Johnson also coming out of retirement?

[C.Biscuit97]

9 hours ago, FluffHead said:

Chan and fitz, the two best friends that anyone could have! 
 

@TomPelissero: Blast from the past: Chan Gailey is coming out of retirement to become the #Dolphins’ offensive coordinator, sources tell me and @RapSheet.

Best offense since the Bledsoe days.  Chan did more with less than any OC we have had besides Roman. I would take him back in a second over Daboll.  A Chan-Fitz combo surrounding Allen would have Been amazing. 

6 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

I actually think this shows well on the Dolphins as an organization.  They’re most likely gonna draft Tua who won’t be ready to play.  Fitz brought them respectability this year.  You don’t just tank and then suddenly expect young draft picks to turn an organization around.  Ask Cleveland how that’s turned out.  They’re clearly trying to make Fitz happy with the Gailey move and I think that is a hell of a lot smarter than starting over with a lesser placeholder than Fitzmagic.  

I thought it was really stupid for them to sign Fitz if they were trying to tank because Fitz would win some games.  But with Tua getting hurt, things could be working out really well for them.  Let him red shirt for a year. Load up on draft picks and it looks like they have a good young coach.  Maybe the Bills-Miami rivalry might actually mean something again. 

[3rdand12]

9 hours ago, Mango said:

Aye, bands back together again. 
 

love it

How awesome is this !

geebus

I am going to cheer for them if true.
Horizontal bop , Master of the Tomato Chan !

love these guys honestly

5 hours ago, Another Fan said:

The 2010 Bills went 4-4 their last four games and showed promise at the end of that season.  Enough for me to wanna see Fitz coming back in 2011.

 

Crazy 9 years later history might be repeating itself in the division 

 

 

Stevie still looks like he could ball out as of last year.  Heck I wouldn’t mind bringing him back in training camp 

For miami

Go Fish

22 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Best offense since the Bledsoe days.  Chan did more with less than any OC we have had besides Roman. I would take him back in a second over Daboll.  A Chan-Fitz combo surrounding Allen would have Been amazing. 

I thought it was really stupid for them to sign Fitz if they were trying to tank because Fitz would win some games.  But with Tua getting hurt, things could be working out really well for them.  Let him red shirt for a year. Load up on draft picks and it looks like they have a good young coach.  Maybe the Bills-Miami rivalry might actually mean something again. 

They beat the f'n Patriots

I am cheering them

[reddogblitz]

37 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Best offense since the Bledsoe days.  Chan did more with less than any OC we have had besides Roman. I would take him back in a second over Daboll.

 

I agree with the bolded, but the rest not so much.

 

2015 and 2016 offenses were top 1/3 of the league in scoring.  2016 was 16th overall and 10th in points.  2015 we were 13th overall and 12th in points.

 

Pair this D with an offense that productive and we're in the SB conversation.  Doesn't seem like too much to ask.  Our talent is not bad enough to justify our production IMHO.

[stinky finger]

9 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Flores got dazzled by the Fitz magic in NE. Seen how this ends up a few times now. Why does Flores think this will be different than what happened in Buffalo or NY?

 

Good question. An odd hiring to me. 

[stinky finger]

8 hours ago, Steptide said:

I have to imagine Fitz had a say in Gailey getting hired. What team is even thinking of a coach who hasent been heard of in 4 years? It's kinda funny though, Fitz and Gailey just love each other 

 

You think this rebuilding team gave a 37 year old nomadic QB say in their OC hiring?

 

Isn't that a fireable offense?

 

[stinky finger]

7 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

I actually think this shows well on the Dolphins as an organization.  They’re most likely gonna draft Tua who won’t be ready to play.  Fitz brought them respectability this year.  You don’t just tank and then suddenly expect young draft picks to turn an organization around.  Ask Cleveland how that’s turned out.  They’re clearly trying to make Fitz happy with the Gailey move and I think that is a hell of a lot smarter than starting over with a lesser placeholder than Fitzmagic.  

 

Make Fitz happy? That's what they're trying to accomplish? Doesn't seem smart to me.

 

 

[BuffaloRebound]

Well, who’s a better option for them at QB next year?   They’re not getting Burrow who’s probably the only guy in the draft ready to play next year.  Fitz doesn’t need to play anymore.  If you don’t make him happy, you have a high probability of being worse next year.  It’s easy for internet GM’s to mock this decision, but I guarantee every guy in the Miami locker room except Rosen approves of bringing Fitz back.  

[Boca BIlls]

So 6-10 and a RB will get tired.

[BuffaloBills1998]

10 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Fitzy should still be a Bill.  Whaley ran him out of town on a rail and gave us EJ, Tuel, and Thad Lewis.  So glad Whaley is gone.

Technically that was Buddy Nix not Whaley 

[MJS]

10 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Fitzy should still be a Bill.  Whaley ran him out of town on a rail and gave us EJ, Tuel, and Thad Lewis.  So glad Whaley is gone.

Not to defend Whaley, but are you sure you understand Fitzpatrick? He's the 33rd best QB in the league. Not quite good enough to start, but the best backup in the league.