oldschoolfootball1963 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) This team lacks fire power and scoring, its time to cut bait and unleash our best players. Put them all on the field and let’s go. Put Singletary, Yeldon, Knox, Sweeney, Smoke Brown, Beasley and Duke Williams out there in different combinations and let’s start scoring some points. That is some serious fire power and weapons if you put them on the dam field and unleash them. Stop f-ing around and playing chicken ***** conservative offensive football. I’m tired of scoring 17 points. Let’s take some chances put the best guys on the field and let’s start using all of our weapons. Play a fast pace style of football. Let’s start dictating and using all our weapons. I’m tired of playing 1970’s football. Edited December 31, 2019 by oldschoolfootball1963 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 You really think Sweeney is a top talent ? They play plenty of five wide no huddle. I agree they should sit Foster or McKenzie for Williams. I would also play Yeldon over Perry and Gore but it’s not going to happen. If it’s any other player, Gore would have been cut weeks ago. Bills win this game with ball control and keeping Watson contained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwater10 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 5 hours ago, oldschoolfootball1963 said: I’m tired of playing 1970’s football. How do you feel about your screen name? If I show you a picture of Greg Bell, will you feel happy or sad? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: You really think Sweeney is a top talent ? They play plenty of five wide no huddle. I agree they should sit Foster or McKenzie for Williams. I would also play Yeldon over Perry and Gore but it’s not going to happen. If it’s any other player, Gore would have been cut weeks ago. Bills win this game with ball control and keeping Watson contained. Yeldon is a talent but is a turnover risk. He will not see the field Saturday. That guy can single handedly lose you a playoff game with his propensity to fumble. He fumbles every 40-50 touches, defenses know it, and he is due. Gore is solid. Go with the solid guy. Go play playoff football on the road and work to get out of there with a win. Do not open it up and turn it over 2-3 times in the process. Sure fire way to lose a road playoff game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 hours ago, cwater10 said: How do you feel about your screen name? If I show you a picture of Greg Bell, will you feel happy or sad? How about this guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 8 hours ago, oldschoolfootball1963 said: This team lacks fire power and scoring, its time to cut bait and unleash our best players. Put them all on the field and let’s go. Put Singletary, Yeldon, Knox, Sweeney, Smoke Brown, Beasley and Duke Williams out there in different combinations and let’s start scoring some points. That is some serious fire power and weapons if you put them on the dam field and unleash them. Stop f-ing around and playing chicken ***** conservative offensive football. I’m tired of scoring 17 points. Let’s take some chances put the best guys on the field and let’s start using all of our weapons. Play a fast pace style of football. Let’s start dictating and using all our weapons. I’m tired of playing 1970’s football. The bolded part is wrong. Virtually every playoff team has a better running back, a better tight end, and at least one better WR than the names on your list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, I am the egg man said: T.J. Yeldon stats including all his fumbles rushing and recieving: RUSHING Year Team G Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% 20+ 40+ FUM 2019 Buffalo Bills 6 17 2.8 63 3.7 10.5 0 12 5 29.4 0 0 1 2018 Jacksonville Jaguars 14 104 7.4 414 4.0 29.6 1 20 16 15.4 1 0 1 2017 Jacksonville Jaguars 10 49 4.9 253 5.2 25.3 2 58T 7 14.3 2 1 2 2016 Jacksonville Jaguars 15 130 8.7 465 3.6 31.0 1 16 21 16.2 0 0 2 2015 Jacksonville Jaguars 12 182 15.2 740 4.1 61.7 2 45 25 13.7 4 1 0 TOTAL 57 482 8.5 1,935 4.0 33.9 6 58 74 15.4 7 2 6 RECEIVING Year Team G Rec Yds Avg Yds/G Lng TD 20+ 40+ 1st FUM 2019 Buffalo Bills 6 13 124 9.5 20.7 23 0 1 0 6 0 2018 Jacksonville Jaguars 14 55 487 8.9 34.8 37 4 4 0 21 0 2017 Jacksonville Jaguars 10 30 224 7.5 22.4 20 0 1 0 14 0 2016 Jacksonville Jaguars 15 50 312 6.2 20.8 17 1 0 0 16 0 2015 Jacksonville Jaguars 12 36 279 7.8 23.2 67 1 3 1 14 0 TOTAL 57 184 1,426 7.8 25.0 67 6 9 1 71 0. ...nice work.........6 fumbles over 5 years on 666 touches?.....thought we were talkin' Tiki Barber type fumbleitis......... Daniel Wolf-BR "From 2000 to the 2003 season, Giants running back, Tiki Barber had similar problems with fumbles; he totaled 35 fumbles in those four seasons." 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I'd sit foster for williams absolutely. Mckenzie isnt great, but he runs those jet sweeps which are pretty effective. I'd like to see yeldon active. He seems to be open on the screens (at least this past week) and those can kill a defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Username... doesn’t check out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: Yeldon 6 fumbles on 666 touches = a fumble every 111 touches. Gore: 45 fumbles on 4016 touches = a fumble every 89 touches. How Yeldon is deemed a proven fumbler over Gore escapes me. Yeldon averages 5 yds per touch, Gore 4.7. Yeldon could help too. Edited December 31, 2019 by I am the egg man 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 58 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: Yeldon is a talent but is a turnover risk. He will not see the field Saturday. That guy can single handedly lose you a playoff game with his propensity to fumble. He fumbles every 40-50 touches, defenses know it, and he is due. Gore is solid. Go with the solid guy. Go play playoff football on the road and work to get out of there with a win. Do not open it up and turn it over 2-3 times in the process. Sure fire way to lose a road playoff game. Although I do not agree that Yeldon is some kind of fumbling machine on the field - check out his stats, he is not a high frequency fumbler - I petty much agree with the rest of this post. We have had our best season in 20 years by playing great defense & playing conservatively on offense. I cannot imagine a good reason to break with what has worked for us so far this year. The team is not an explosive offense for a reason - this team is still being built, especially on the offensive side of the ball. Hopefully we can grow into a more explosive offense with another off season of building the roster. Moving a couple of practice squad guys to the active roster will not transform this offense in the 1991 Buffalo Bills offense. Concentrate on what we do well & execute it well -- that is the way to approach a playoff game. Reinventing the offense is an exercise for the off season, but is a potential recipe for disaster entering a playoff game . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolfootball1963 Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 The point is to put the most offensive skill players on the field. Spread the other team out and let Josh go to work. When you know going in your going to win almost every game if you score 24 points. I don't care about lee smith, Foster or our full back. Are problem is scoring points let’s make it hard for the other team to cover all of our best skilled offensive players. That’s not really a hard concept. I’m surprised ? you guys don’t get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogham26 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, ProcessTruster said: Yeldon is a talent but is a turnover risk. He will not see the field Saturday. That guy can single handedly lose you a playoff game with his propensity to fumble. He fumbles every 40-50 touches, defenses know it, and he is due. Gore is solid. Go with the solid guy. Go play playoff football on the road and work to get out of there with a win. Do not open it up and turn it over 2-3 times in the process. Sure fire way to lose a road playoff game. simply not true. why make up a stat that you don't know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Yeldon should only be used to spell Singletary in a limited number of snaps in passing situations. I don't see the need to make him anything more than a backup piece. I don't hate him as a backup receiving back but let's not get carried away with this. The Bills shuffling around Duke and the other backups are marginal moves that might not make a lot of a difference. This game is going to come down to how well Brown, Beasley, Knox, and Singletary perform in the passing game and how they can get the ground game going with Singletary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 6 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: You really think Sweeney is a top talent ? They play plenty of five wide no huddle. I agree they should sit Foster or McKenzie for Williams. I would also play Yeldon over Perry and Gore but it’s not going to happen. If it’s any other player, Gore would have been cut weeks ago. Bills win this game with ball control and keeping Watson contained. If you're considering Dimarco and Lee Smith, yes!! I don't want to hear about special teams, they suck anyways!! Put playmakers on the field 11 hours ago, oldschoolfootball1963 said: This team lacks fire power and scoring, its time to cut bait and unleash our best players. Put them all on the field and let’s go. Put Singletary, Yeldon, Knox, Sweeney, Smoke Brown, Beasley and Duke Williams out there in different combinations and let’s start scoring some points. That is some serious fire power and weapons if you put them on the dam field and unleash them. Stop f-ing around and playing chicken ***** conservative offensive football. I’m tired of scoring 17 points. Let’s take some chances put the best guys on the field and let’s start using all of our weapons. Play a fast pace style of football. Let’s start dictating and using all our weapons. I’m tired of playing 1970’s football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 6 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: You really think Sweeney is a top talent ? They play plenty of five wide no huddle. I agree they should sit Foster or McKenzie for Williams. I would also play Yeldon over Perry and Gore but it’s not going to happen. If it’s any other player, Gore would have been cut weeks ago. Bills win this game with ball control and keeping Watson contained. Sweeney compared to "dressed every week" Smith is much more of an offensive threat. Like old school said, I want my best offensive weapons available. Not worthless players like Lee Smith, Patrick DiMarco, Robert Foster or Perry. If you want to score 16 and curl up in conservative fetal position than feel free to play the 4 above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Playing our best players and scoring a lot of points is a far better strategy than my idea of using scrubs and scoring 17. I say let's go for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLbills Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...nice work.........6 fumbles over 5 years on 666 touches?.....thought we were talkin' Tiki Barber type fumbleitis......... Daniel Wolf-BR "From 2000 to the 2003 season, Giants running back, Tiki Barber had similar problems with fumbles; he totaled 35 fumbles in those four seasons." I agree with this. I am not sure where this narrative of ball security has generated from but it is very inaccurate. The guy fumbled one time earlier in the year and now all of sudden he's prone to fumbling? While we're at it, I'm going to go ahead and fabricate my own stat and say that JA completion percentage is 74.3% over his career, fits my narrative that he will be a sure fire 1st ballot HOF and an elite QB...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Yeldon doesn’t even have to touch the ball to change quite a bit in the game. You can literally line him up back there and fake a screen his way (oh crap we can’t do screens) and actually throw it to Knox on the other side and the defense will bite like crazy on it. I don’t care what they do for the most part. I would of liked to see Sweeney more this year. The difference in blocking between him and smith can’t be that far off especially when you factor in smiths penalties. Our top 3 are still the top 3 and if they get locked down more than likely we lose regardless. But I would love to see more formations. Don’t totally care what they run but dang something different. Yeldon in the backfield is an auto pass for opposing defenses. IF we could run screens or even the wonderful jet sweep I would expect success. Duke yes I said DUKE on one side with smoke Beasley and Knox on the other should create mismatches. Houston has obviously watched our tape. We’ve been running the same stuff all year. Rarely have we sustained success running it. ( that’s on everyone from coaches coordinators allll the way down to DiMarco) But change things up. Even if we’re running the same plays just out of new formations Houston would be caught totally off guard. Come on daboll you’re coaching for the Cleveland job this weekend pretend like you really really want it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 5 hours ago, I am the egg man said: Gore: 45 fumbles on 4016 touches = a fumble every 89 touches. How Yeldon is deemed a proven fumbler over Gore escapes me. Yeldon averages 5 yds per touch, Gore 4.7. Yeldon could help too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 5 hours ago, Steptide said: I'd sit foster for williams absolutely. Mckenzie isnt great, but he runs those jet sweeps which are pretty effective. I'd like to see yeldon active. He seems to be open on the screens (at least this past week) and those can kill a defense. McKenzie has 16 first downs on 35 offensive touches this year. He absolutely plays an important role on this offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 6 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: Yeldon is a talent but is a turnover risk. He will not see the field Saturday. That guy can single handedly lose you a playoff game with his propensity to fumble. He fumbles every 40-50 touches, defenses know it, and he is due. Gore is solid. Go with the solid guy. Go play playoff football on the road and work to get out of there with a win. Do not open it up and turn it over 2-3 times in the process. Sure fire way to lose a road playoff game. Yeldon has a total of six (6) fumbles for his entire career in the NFL. Ya need to rethink your notions on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I'd run the Kgun all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 The best thing about Knox and Duke is they just manhandle DBs. That can really psyche out a secondary and I think it's great for the passing game. It pays dividends late in the game. I really hope Duke is part of the offense for the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 When switching from playoff caliber to championship caliber McDermott obviously knew this meant moving to a heavy dose of TJ Yeldon and Tommy Sweeney. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: McKenzie has 16 first downs on 35 offensive touches this year. He absolutely plays an important role on this offense. Yes, I agree with you, but I'd argue that he still isn't great. However, I'll still take Duke over foster 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolfootball1963 Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 This is simple put your best offensive weapons on the field how hard is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 13 hours ago, Steptide said: I'd sit foster for williams absolutely. Mckenzie isnt great, but he runs those jet sweeps which are pretty effective. I'd like to see yeldon active. He seems to be open on the screens (at least this past week) and those can kill a defense. Both guys have to be active and used. It's do or die and these 2 offer offensive plays we've rarely used this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 13 hours ago, I am the egg man said: Gore: 45 fumbles on 4016 touches = a fumble every 89 touches. How Yeldon is deemed a proven fumbler over Gore escapes me. Yeldon averages 5 yds per touch, Gore 4.7. Yeldon could help too. Recency bias. Fans see preseason only. I've been guilty of it also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I'm not going to hold my breath were talking about the same coach that went into the year starting Nathan Peterman. Rasslers are stubborn dont ya know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 One thing is for sure, if they score 17 or fewer vs Houston the Bills will lose. I agree they need points... probably at least 24 to win this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I agree that I'd like to see Duke dress over Foster. I'll take a little hit on special teams for more potency on offense. Knox and Kroft will get the majority of any TE targets, so playing Sweeney probably doesn't help much. Smith hasn't had a penalty in a while and is a very good blocker. So... I wouldn't mind seeing Yeldon get more touches, but if you don't dress Gore, who is your short yardage, power back. I'm not saying that Gore has consistently succeeded in that role, but can Yeldon be that guy? I'm not sure. And most of what Yeldon does, Singletary can do. So, as long as Singletary stays healthy, there wouldn't be that many touches for Yeldon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 13 hours ago, Steptide said: I'd sit foster for williams absolutely. Mckenzie isnt great, but he runs those jet sweeps which are pretty effective. I'd like to see yeldon active. He seems to be open on the screens (at least this past week) and those can kill a defense. Exactly, for a guy who catches 40-50 balls a year @ 9yds a pop, we have drastically underused him in the passing game where we could use it most. These types of plays move the chains and open up some one on one coverage on deeper routes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 26 minutes ago, folz said: I agree that I'd like to see Duke dress over Foster. I'll take a little hit on special teams for more potency on offense. Knox and Kroft will get the majority of any TE targets, so playing Sweeney probably doesn't help much. Smith hasn't had a penalty in a while and is a very good blocker. So... I wouldn't mind seeing Yeldon get more touches, but if you don't dress Gore, who is your short yardage, power back. I'm not saying that Gore has consistently succeeded in that role, but can Yeldon be that guy? I'm not sure. And most of what Yeldon does, Singletary can do. So, as long as Singletary stays healthy, there wouldn't be that many touches for Yeldon. play all three and sit Perry Or sit Roberts and let someone else handle PR's I'd dress three rbs you can count on regardless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 hour ago, oldschoolfootball1963 said: This is simple put your best offensive weapons on the field how hard is that. Folks, a BABY could do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I agree, put Duke Williams out there and go for the jugular! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 They’re not going to change things up. The key is going to be executing better and getting into a better rhythm for both players and coaches. I’m hoping we can convert on a a few big plays, and just be in better third down to go situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I agree but unfortunately going for the jugular is not the McD way...frankly, I don’t think he knows how... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 run the ball right at JJ Watt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 17 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: Yeldon is a talent but is a turnover risk. He will not see the field Saturday. That guy can single handedly lose you a playoff game with his propensity to fumble. He fumbles every 40-50 touches, defenses know it, and he is due. Gore is solid. Go with the solid guy. Go play playoff football on the road and work to get out of there with a win. Do not open it up and turn it over 2-3 times in the process. Sure fire way to lose a road playoff game. Or, more accurately, Yeldon fumbles once every 111 touch compared to Gore's once per 89 touches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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