Bills better be scouting “hands catchers” at WR

[whorlnut]

With the way Josh Allen throws the football, I really hope the Bills are scouring the heck out of WRs that have strong hands and can pluck the ball out of the air. IMO, that’s the only way to go with a flamethrower QB. Anything other than that is just a wasted pick. 
 

So...what do you guys think?  Any suggestions and why?

[theAteam]

Considering we are at the top of the league in drop percentage yes I agree

[wppete]

Say Hi to Josh Allen’s new weapon!

 

 

[Big C]

But but but... we already have Duke Williams!!?

[Captain_Quint]

Watkins, Hopkins, someone like that who has great hands and catches the ball out in front of them, I agree. I havent paid enough attention to college ball this year to know who that is, but hoping there is someone like that near our draft slot. 

[The Wiz]

Get guys that will catch the ball like Favre had.

 

A lot of broken fingers from all those darts he threw.

[wppete]

Just now, Captain_Quint said:

Watkins, Hopkins, someone like that who has great hands and catches the ball out in front of them, I agree. I havent paid enough attention to college ball this year to know who that is, but hoping there is someone like that near our draft slot. 

watch the video above. LV is that guy. 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

1 minute ago, Captain_Quint said:

Watkins, Hopkins, someone like that who has great hands and catches the ball out in front of them, I agree. I havent paid enough attention to college ball this year to know who that is, but hoping there is someone like that near our draft slot. 

be plenty of talent for beane to choose from. I would love to have jeudy but he will go early first round.

 

The NFL’s 2020 Wide Receiver Class Already Looks Special

[BillnutinHouston]

10 minutes ago, Big C said:

But but but... we already have Duke Williams!!?

 

Generally I'm not huge on the Duke train but in response to the OP's post, I must admit I was thinking likewise.

[billsfan1959]

Or what?

[Haslett_Stomp]

25 minutes ago, wppete said:

watch the video above. LV is that guy. 

 

My son goes to CU and I have watched a fair amount of their games the past two years.  Shenault definitely has talent.  He was touted as a Heisman Trophy candidate last year (fall 2018 season) until he missed some games due to injury.  He was not the same after he returned.  I believe he was injured again this year which isn't a good trend.

Edited December 19, 2019 by Haslett_Stomp

[whorlnut]

27 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said:

Watkins, Hopkins, someone like that who has great hands and catches the ball out in front of them, I agree. I havent paid enough attention to college ball this year to know who that is, but hoping there is someone like that near our draft slot. 

Yeah I mean even on some of the balls that Brown and Beasley catch, you can see the are letting the ball get deep on them and they are catching the back half of the ball. They are so close to having the ball eat them up. I want a strong hands catcher that catches the ball out in front like you describe. I think for the most part Brown is a guy like that but we need another. 

[Bills Fan of St Augustine]

I'd also like to see a guy whose arms don't get shorter when catching a ball over the middle.

 

[Happy]

They'll draft one come late April if this WR class is all that it is supposed to be.

[whorlnut]

24 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

Or what?

So you’re gonna be “that guy”?

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

42 minutes ago, wppete said:

Say Hi to Josh Allen’s new weapon!

 

 

 

I dunno man... he does this odd looking thing after catching the ball, where he runs for additional yards. 

 

Not sure that’s part of the current scheme ?

39 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Get guys that will catch the ball like Favre had.

 

A lot of broken fingers from all those darts he threw.

 

Donald Driver. He was Micheal Thomas / DeAndre Hopkins type “possession wr” 

[PIZ]

45 minutes ago, wppete said:

Say Hi to Josh Allen’s new weapon!

 

 

Will he last to 32?

[NewEra]

46 minutes ago, wppete said:

Say Hi to Josh Allen’s new weapon!

 

 

We can only pray that he lasts that long.  I believe he’s gone by the time we pick

1 minute ago, PIZ said:

Will he last to 32?

Probably not, but maybe he’ll smoke some weed and get pushed down

[JaCrispy]

15 minutes ago, Bills Fan of Maryland said:

I'd also like to see a guy whose arms don't get shorter when catching a ball over the middle.

 

That was very discouraging to see...that pass was perfect...

Edited December 19, 2019 by JaCrispy

[The Red King]

4 minutes ago, PIZ said:

Will he last to 32?

 

We have Beane, the McGuyver of GMs.  He'll find a way to package that pick with a third rounder, a cheeto and a q-tip to move into the top 15. ?

Edited December 19, 2019 by The Red King

[BringBackOrton]

You know who set records for catches in college? With an NFL pedigree? 

 

ZayDay!

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

51 minutes ago, wppete said:

Say Hi to Josh Allen’s new weapon!

 

 

Me likey

[Gambit]

53 minutes ago, wppete said:

Say Hi to Josh Allen’s new weapon!

 

 

While I love how impressive he can be, I'm very worried about his injury history. With that said I'm down for either him or Higgins.

[whorlnut]

4 minutes ago, Gambit said:

While I love how impressive he can be, I'm very worried about his injury history. With that said I'm down for either him or Higgins.

Give me Higgins all day long. He reminds me of AJ Green and he’s played in some big time games. 

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

The fact that they can wear those tacky gloves you would think these guys would barely drop a pass. I remember about 12 years ago when I was playing in a flag football league, they didn't allow the use of those gloves and we had a team total of about 29 drops. The next year they let everyone use the gloves and we only had 6 drops. 

[whatdrought]

1 hour ago, whorlnut said:

With the way Josh Allen throws the football, I really hope the Bills are scouring the heck out of WRs that have strong hands and can pluck the ball out of the air. IMO, that’s the only way to go with a flamethrower QB. Anything other than that is just a wasted pick. 
 

So...what do you guys think?  Any suggestions and why?

 

CeeDee Lamb will be gone before our pick, and I abhor the idea of trading up for a WR in this draft, but he’s a guy I would love. Dustin Hopkinsesque with his hands.

[Buddo]

28 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

The fact that they can wear those tacky gloves you would think these guys would barely drop a pass. I remember about 12 years ago when I was playing in a flag football league, they didn't allow the use of those gloves and we had a team total of about 29 drops. The next year they let everyone use the gloves and we only had 6 drops. 

 

Lots of guys tend to let the ball come into their body, rather than just use their hands. Also, in fairness, sometimes, that's where the football is going - not every throw is a back shoulder one.

 

I think it's also fair to say that there are a lot of guys with superior athleticism, who aren't necessarily the greatest catchers of footballs, yet can get separation etc. (I know, I know, a lot of them are CBs too). Having good hands, is sort of a natural thing, but it's natural because you've got both good hand/eye coordination, and you have likely been messing around playing all types of ball sports, from an early age.

[Gambit]

1 hour ago, whorlnut said:

Give me Higgins all day long. He reminds me of AJ Green and he’s played in some big time games. 

He is definitely special. I don't see any chance he falls tho.

[atlbillsfan1975]

A guy I’d love to see the Bills get is Lawrence Cager out of UGA. Kid is big and fast and catches contested balls. Transferred out of Miami and got hurt this year in Athens. When Cager was on the field Fromm and the offense looked entirely different. He isn’t a first rounder. He is 6’5 220. Depending on combine he might be a 3rd or 4th rounder. 

[Victory Formation]

Another guy I like is Stephen Guidry out of Mississippi State. Would be a great pick RD2 in case we decide to go OL or defense RD1. He’s 6’3 with plenty of speed, great jump ball receiver. Reminds me of Josh Gordon.

[Don Otreply]

Well ya, certainly not scouting mouth breathers...

 

Go Bills!!!

[Phil The Thrill]

3 hours ago, Captain_Quint said:

Watkins, Hopkins, someone like that who has great hands and catches the ball out in front of them, I agree. I havent paid enough attention to college ball this year to know who that is, but hoping there is someone like that near our draft slot. 

Watkins and Hopkins!?!?  Not exactly on the same level

3 hours ago, whorlnut said:

With the way Josh Allen throws the football, I really hope the Bills are scouring the heck out of WRs that have strong hands and can pluck the ball out of the air. IMO, that’s the only way to go with a flamethrower QB. Anything other than that is just a wasted pick. 
 

So...what do you guys think?  Any suggestions and why?

The sad thing is that Zay Jones was a “hands catcher.”  He caught everything in college.  He just wasn’t the same WR in the NFL.  Terrible draft pick 

[Rc2catch]

Never mind the draft. 
We’re getting marquise Goodwin back in free agency and acquiring Taylor Gabriel, and like 3 more receivers under 5’10. 
Smurf squad in full effect for 2020. 
Get er doneeeee 

[Solomon Grundy]

4 hours ago, wppete said:

watch the video above. LV is that guy. 

So is Ceedee Lamb!!

[White Linen]

For me it's simple;  John Brown's hand size is 8.5".  I couldn't find Beasley's but I would think also extremely small. 

 

They're going to drop balls with small hands and a QB throwing elite fastballs.  

 

Just time to draft one with all the physical tools high.  Then these two will be excellent compliments. 

[thenorthremembers]

With all the money the Bills have coming up I would go and get a wideout in free agency.   The learning curve for rookie defensive ends is a lot less steep than it is for wideouts.

 

If Dallas decides not to pay Amari Cooper, go get him and draft Yetur Gross Matos.  

[hondo in seattle]

I can't sing, dance, or tell a joke.  In fact, I can barely tie my own shoes.  I suspect there are very few people the world over with fewer talents than what I possess.  But there is one thing I used to do - many years ago - uncommonly well and that was catch a football.  One handed?  Diving?  Contested?  One-handed, diving and contested at the same time?  The bigger the challenge, the more I loved it.  I would catch anything and everything.  

 

But the pathetic pinnacle of my sad football career was leading a flag football league in receptions, picks and TDs (yes, we kept stats).   My hands were good enough for the NFL.  But my legs weren't, nor my brain, nor any other part of my body.  I lacked the discipline and athleticism to be a good professional prospect.  What use is a WR who can't create separation?

 

I remember when people hailed EJ's big hands as a requirement to succeed in Buffalo's harsh weather.  That's kind of what I think of the original post in this thread.  It makes sense to think we need receivers who can handle Josh's rockets.   But they need to block, run good routes, and get separation too.  In other words, they need to be good overall WRs - not just guys with good hands.  We can't get hung up - like some did with EJ - on just one trait.  

 

 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

I wouldn't hate if we went with 2 WRs in the first 3 rounds. Especially if there's some success at other positions in free agency.  Foster, Duke, McKenzie could all be upgraded. 

[ehfeuh57]

you mean like Dawson Knox

[ClemsonBills]

TEE HIGGINS