RiotAct Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 58 minutes ago, H2o said: Tua is already expressing some doubts himself that he will ever be the same player he was prior to the injury. It would be a pass for me. His best bet is to return to school and prove he is healthy so he can be a top 3 pick next year imo, but if someone is going to take him in the 1st Round in 2020 then it is hard to say no to that guaranteed $$$. I can see the Raiders taking him and they will have multiple picks before the Bills anyway. Jon Gruden is probably already having impure thoughts about him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla03 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: No thank you. build around Josh and make the defense elite. the defense is already elite... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Once OBD drafts a 6-5 TE, a 6-3+ WR, an OL Stud and Eedgit Kicker, a backup DE... yeah take a flyer on him in R8. Otherwise? Idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Tesla03 said: the defense is already elite... They are very good, but a dominant DE would take them to the next level. That’s something they could draft in the first round instead of Tua. Edited December 11, 2019 by atlbillsfan1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I'll go on record predicting that the Bills will draft a kicker or punter before a QB this coming draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Can we take just one loss...just one...without someone starting some stupid thread about getting a new QB? I mean we just took the best team in the NFL down to the wire. STOP. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, r henderson said: Just throwing it out there, Would anyone oppose to taking a flier on Tua Tagovailoa if he fell to us in the draft? There's been talk of him possibly sliding because of the injuries he's sustained this season. Just throwing it out there, Yes , we need weapons not a broken down QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcampbell104 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, buffaloboyinATL said: To everyone saying to take Tua in the 3rd round or later if he dropped, it would be a completely wasted pick. He would sit out a year and re-enter the draft the following year when he is healthy. He would not come here as a late round pick to backup Josh Allen. once you declare for the draft you are ineligible to return to college 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 hours ago, r henderson said: Just throwing it out there, Would anyone oppose to taking a flier on Tua Tagovailoa if he fell to us in the draft? There's been talk of him possibly sliding because of the injuries he's sustained this season. Just throwing it out there, sure take a flier in the 5th round 40 minutes ago, tcampbell104 said: once you declare for the draft you are ineligible to return to college but you are eligible to sit out of NFL and play say in XFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Rc2catch said: Shame.. Shame.. Shame.. We’re playing meaningful December games with a shot at the division and the playoffs. There should be zero talk of draft, and zero talk of a quarterback in the first 2 rounds. Please put your dunce cap on and sit in the corner. You’re on timeout until April. it doesn’t hurt to speculate, but you’re right. This should wait until the Bills’ season is over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 42 minutes ago, tcampbell104 said: once you declare for the draft you are ineligible to return to college That is correct, but you can refuse to sign, sit out a year and re-enter the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcampbell104 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: That is correct, but you can refuse to sign, sit out a year and re-enter the draft. unless he plays in the xfl he would be a year away from football, and i think some team would still make him a pretty high pick like second round. someone who has an aging qb where he could sit for a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Only if his wife looks like Katherine Webb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 hours ago, r henderson said: Just throwing it out there, Would anyone oppose to taking a flier on Tua Tagovailoa if he fell to us in the draft? There's been talk of him possibly sliding because of the injuries he's sustained this season. Just throwing it out there, Yes. Everyone here on this board would oppose that. Waste of a pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 It would not surprise me If Tua replaces Tom Brady... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just throwing it out there sounds an awful lot like now hear me out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Can we throw out this thread? Right, take a flier with your top pick on a player you don't need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 If I'm Brandon Beane, I would go into the draft having spoken to teams drafting behind me, assuming there are any, to see if there are any that might be looking for a QB. If there are, I would tell those teams within five spots of my position that my draft position is for sale at the right price, including, of course their top pick. The only team I wouldn't trade with is the Patriots. I don't know if Belichick is happy with Jarrett Stidham as the heir apparent to Tom Brady. If he isn't, I don't want to be a party to any transaction that might get him a QB he likes more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Rc2catch said: Shame.. Shame.. Shame.. We’re playing meaningful December games with a shot at the division and the playoffs. There should be zero talk of draft, and zero talk of a quarterback in the first 2 rounds. Please put your dunce cap on and sit in the corner. You’re on timeout until April. The Bills may be winning more than we have expected, and now we are getting spoiled. Most of us have predicted 2020 as the year...lets hold off on panic for awhile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: The Bills may be winning more than we have expected, and now we are getting spoiled. Most of us have predicted 2020 as the year...lets hold off on panic for awhile. In years past December is basically the start to our free agency and draft prep ?? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 You can Tua piano, but you can't Tua fish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 9 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Depends where he fell to us. At pick 23 or 24 or whatever we will be (pick 32 Gunner....)? No. If he fell to us in the third round of the Draft yes, absolutely you take him - but that isn't happening. Tua is going in the first round, he will likely be long gone by the time the Bills pick (in the almost impossible situation where he isn't there will be teams drafting after us that would want to get up and take him so the Bills might have a bidding war for their pick). The Bills do not need to draft another Quarterback early. They will take one in this class somewhere I think to compete for the backup job. Yeah. Nobody's taking a "flier" on Tua, so the premise is absurd. He'll be a first round pick and very likely a top 10 pick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 53 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I'd say even 2nd round is absolutely take him..... tell me, where is the downside? The QB position trumps every other position by a large margin. If Allen flames out or gets hurt you have a guy with big potential behind him. I think for me the Bills first two picks if at all possible should be spent on a receiver and an edge rusher. I'd consider moving up and down and around the board and packaging other picks to get in position to take the guys I like at those two spots. Both positions need an infusion of talented young players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 ...flier=plane crash............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 9:17 AM, BarleyNY said: There are some crazy posts in this thread. If not for his injury Tua would be in consideration for the first overall pick. Talk of him being a day 3 pick is nuts. As for the Bills, so much depends on what the Bills think of Allen. Tua is already a much better prospect than he was though. That’s largely due to accuracy. Tua’s deep ball is fantastic. He also is willing and able to throw to spots that protect his receivers. Those are both issues with Allen’s game right now. Still, there’s three games plus postseason left this season for us to see of Allen is putting it together. The Bills staff obviously sees more Of him than we do and knows him better. The Bills do need help at OT, CB, WR, TE, Edge and more. But realistically the question boils down to whether you think Tua will be a better QB than Allen. That’s because no other position matters remotely as much. QB controversy or not, I’d pull the trigger on Tua without hesitation if he falls to us in the first. That’s based on what I’ve seen from him and where I see Allen now. I really don’t see Tua falling that far anyway. I’m sorry sir but your wrong, it would be a wasted pick to take Tua in the 2nd round. We have a lot more pressing needs on this team. We need more OL, a pass rush, TE, WR, etc. QB is the last position this team needs to think about. Honestly go get a veteran in free agency. Tua can’t stay healthy he is going to be Mariota 2.0 Mark my words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 10:52 AM, KD in CA said: Oh look....endless fascination over a college QB who played on a team that had a huge talent advantage over 90% of its opponents. Those guys always end up as top players in the NFL. Hmmm...what was McCarron’s alma mater again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I am probably the biggest fan of Tua on this board. Trent Dilfer called him the smartest QB who ever came to his camp. The kid is extremely accurate and can make every throw. I sincerely doubt that he will ever get in trouble. Just an absolute great person and player. That said, the Bills should not select him in the first round. I am still of the opinion that our receiving corps is not so threatening. I cannot say enough how many top receivers are coming out in 2020. Tall receivers, absolute speedsters, guys with great hands.....everybody. Josh Allen needs weapons and he has the arm to reach any of these kids. For the first time in more years than I can remember, I am hoping for a 1st Round wide receiver. It feels strange to even type this. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 22 hours ago, fansince88 said: Just throwing it out there sounds an awful lot like now hear me out. Or here, wash this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Looking back, not drafting Aaron Rodgers because you had JP Losman was the right choice! and I’m skeptical of Allen but I do think he has done enough to have one more year as the guy. I won’t stop addressing the qb position because Barkley is not special and you never stop trying to improve the most position in sports (see me in fantasy picking up Lamar when I had Mahomes in week 1 ?). also, Tua makes me real nervous. So hard to tell with Bama qbs. He throws to a nfl receiving core, has the best defense in college, and struggles to stay healthy. He is going to end up on the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Looking back, not drafting Aaron Rodgers because you had JP Losman was the right choice! and I’m skeptical of Allen but I do think he has done enough to have one more year as the guy. I won’t stop addressing the qb position because Barkley is not special and you never stop trying to improve the most position in sports (see me in fantasy picking up Lamar when I had Mahomes in week 1 ?). also, Tua makes me real nervous. So hard to tell with Bama qbs. He throws to a nfl receiving core, has the best defense in college, and struggles to stay healthy. He is going to end up on the Pats. I love Tua's game, but the injury concerns are a real thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 I would take him absolutely. But that injury that he sustained was catastrophic. is he even going to be able to walk properly again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 11:22 AM, H2o said: Tua is already expressing some doubts himself that he will ever be the same player he was prior to the injury. It would be a pass for me. His best bet is to return to school and prove he is healthy so he can be a top 3 pick next year imo, but if someone is going to take him in the 1st Round in 2020 then it is hard to say no to that guaranteed $$$. I can see the Raiders taking him and they will have multiple picks before the Bills anyway. I think he's gotta return to school. Unless he has insurance and needs to declare for the draft this year for the policy to apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 11:21 AM, Ethan in Portland said: You don't watch much college football. SEC is essentially semipro football. Add the playoffs and that is two more games against high level competition. No doubt they have some patsies on their schedule and that is a problem. But Tua has played well in the biggest moments. All that said, if he falls past round 3, I'd be fine with drafting him. I don't think he will be a great NFL QB but he would have value if he fell. Even if it was to trade him later. The Bills have too many holes to waste on a QB in first three rounds. Regardless, I think some team will take Tua in the first round. I hear what you're saying and I agree about the SEC generally. That said, 10 of the 15 games played in 2018 were against clearly inferior teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 This is who I want. Hope he lasts till the end of the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill963 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 10:37 AM, Joe in Winslow said: Stop. Just stop. Stop being such an arrogant d bag. It’s a fair question. Yikes On 12/11/2019 at 10:56 AM, Boatdrinks said: Lol, he won’t fall that far, but even if he did , no thanks. He apparently had the same freak hip injiury Bo Jackson had. He really may drop a ton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 52 minutes ago, BuffaloBill963 said: Stop being such an arrogant d bag. It’s a fair question. Yikes It's beyond stupid as a question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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