Inigo Montoya Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 29 minutes ago, Virgil said: I’ll be honest, yes. I didn’t like waiving goodbye to the Cowboys fans. I didn’t like Tre dance-mocking Dak. I didn’t like the comments about saying Dak shouldn’t get paid. We’ve accomplished nothing yet and are coming off 20 years where we were always on the other side of things. I understand celebrating and having fun, but you can do it without disrespecting the other team and their fans. I know we haven’t been here before, but act like it. This. It might be a generational thing too. I think older people might see it as bad sportmanship whereas younger fans see it as just a part of the overall entertainment and have no problem with it. Give me the classy cats like Jerry Rice who dominated his opponents on the field and casually handed the ball to the ref in the end zone, like catching that 35 yard bomb between two defenders in the corner of the endzone and somehow getting that second big toe down one inch before going out of bounds, is the most common thing in the world to him and nothing worthy of a "look at me" show... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgrappler Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 People that get bent out of shape from this stuff are the same ones that were getting picked last in gym class! Seriously, our players do an excellent job of playing classy but playing at a higher level than your competitors takes emotion and there’s nothing wrong with displaying that. People are so freaking sensitive and judgmental... it’s gotten worse over the years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 They’re young, and don’t understand that some types of self braggadocio can shine a negative light on oneself, but again they are young, and just like when we were young this sort of activity is more prevalent. OR you could say, youngsters nowadays they are just like we were.... if it gets to silly SM will have a chat with whoever, but until then, no big deal. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: you sure did. As rookies ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, T master said: As rookies ?? ummm how about Bruce’s Heartattack Sack dance? Jesus people really. Enjoy the game a little bit. celebrations and dancing are part of the game. And the NFL knows that. That is why they changed the rule to allow them instead of being the No Fun League of old. Edited November 30, 2019 by MAJBobby 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 If we were down by 3 scores yes. 2 players getting busy. Making plays unstoppable. Na... That's a look at Buffalo we are coming mentality. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 50 minutes ago, PUNT750 said: It's great these 2 defensive lineman are making big plays and helping the TEAM win. Personally, I don't feel the look-at-me celebrations flatter either of them. Do you consider Josh Allen's celebrations to be "look-at-me" or are his a-okay? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 In a perfect world I would answer no. However it was after the game with no impact - no harm, no foul, no worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 We need more murderers, cheaters and coke dealers who act more professionally in order to win super bowls. I think it was a little over the top. I'm confident McDermott will coach them appropriately. But, Christ ... let the young men enjoy the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 52 minutes ago, PUNT750 said: It's great these 2 defensive lineman are making big plays and helping the TEAM win. Personally, I don't feel the look-at-me celebrations flatter either of them. main question. Are these celebrations hurting the team with penalties? If the answer is NO you have nothing to complain about 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Yes, I have felt that a couple of times, that Ed Oliver was very close to drawing a taunting penalty after a great play. Celebrating is one thing; taunting and mocking the other team does not seem to be part of the way McD wants to conduct business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 42 minutes ago, Virgil said: I’ll be honest, yes. I didn’t like waiving goodbye to the Cowboys fans. I didn’t like Tre dance-mocking Dak. I didn’t like the comments about saying Dak shouldn’t get paid. We’ve accomplished nothing yet and are coming off 20 years where we were always on the other side of things. I understand celebrating and having fun, but you can do it without disrespecting the other team and their fans. I know we haven’t been here before, but act like it. That opposing team doesn't like the disrespect, shut us up... Tre was on the sideline. So the camera showed him. We are 9 and 3, first time in longer than a lot of fans have now been alive and we accomplished nothing? When you played you never got lost in the moment? Never excited? I wish I would have had your composure. It's none of their faults they love what they do and that it's on NATIONAL DISPLAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 22 minutes ago, Warcodered said: What that 1 penalty he had that the announcers couldn't find...yes what a terrible pattern of behavior.? Actually I think he's had the trifecta of roughing the passer, unnecessary roughness and unsportsmanlike conduct this year. Only Bill to have both a RP and a UR. And I don't think anyone had a hard time seeing him coming in to blast Amari Cooper for his first flag yesterday. It was blatant. If you are talking about the other penalty which was hands to the face that was a bad call but it was totally unnecessary for him to put his hands on Dak there. He just gets fired up and can't reign it in. Like in the Dolphins game last year when his taunting penalty set up the Dolphins winning TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 39 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I think Jordan Phillips' inability to stop with the unnecessary contact after the play is over is a lot more concerning. He's made himself a target he needs to understand that people are watching the 340# guy who has a habit of playing "thru the whistle". His sideline impression of Dak signaling first down was spot on and quite comical though. What Shaq and Oliver are doing is just standard stuff that doesn't impact the game. He was mocking Zeke's feed me celebration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.W. Cyclone Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 If you don't like seeing the"look at me" actions of some of the players change the channel or turn the TV off. Problem solved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 43 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Most players on even winning teams celebrate plays ,sacks and wins They take endzone pictures at away stadiums after scoring defensive touchdowns and wave goodbye to losing crowds all the time It's still entertainment... If Shaq dances because of a sack and we are down 35-3 I'd say what the hell you dancing about... Not winning at Jerry's world on national television please re-read what I wrote. I didn’t say I have a problem with celebrating. I said I don’t like mocking other teams or their fans. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 I personally thought Shaq’s Riverdance celebration was pure genius. Reminded me of this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 26 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Did you like Josh Allen’s tomahawk first down after that 4th and 1? Also, please re-read what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 All of this is much ado...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Virgil said: Also, please re-read what I said. who cares they waived bye to a fan base than spent all week calling them Frauds. they mocked Zeke and Dak (ooo Zeke also mocked Dak). And oooo Players mock and talk trash all over. It was on their own Sideline as well it wasn’t like it was in the field of play. after everyone has trashed them for months. They go on the road and Dominate a Arrogant Team and Fanbase. On thanksgiving when the bills last won on thanksgiving when? Edited November 30, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) Shaq's got some cringeworthy stuff out there but it's usually him and jordan phillips that have me rolling my eyes. I havent' really seen any celebration from Oliver that made me feel that way, though. Still, I wouldn't want to have the players worrying about their personalities in that way. Play hard, win, enjoy it. I do think there is a fine line between competitive celebration and being disrespectful/unprofessional. It's a fine line, it's worth taking notice. Edited November 30, 2019 by BillsFan692 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Everything is ‘look at me’ for this generation of players. I don’t connect with it because it’s exactly the opposite of what was valued when I played into college. It’s not wrong, just different. Constant contact due to social media has changed a lot of old behaviors. I think if Sean had a problem with it, it would stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Virgil said: please re-read what I wrote. I didn’t say I have a problem with celebrating. I said I don’t like mocking other teams or their fans. Teams have done that for 20 years vs Us... We didn't beat up fans they waved goodbye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 The Bills walked into the game as an 8-3 team on a two-game win streak against a 6-5 team and were dogs by a touchdown. Let 'em crow as long as it's after the game and not before it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 46 minutes ago, DC Tom said: If only they were 4-8, then we wouldn't have to deal with this *****. Winning only hurts the franchise. Finally, the voice of reason arrives! ESPECIALLY wins against the NFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 You can always tell the older fans. They want a person to hide their personality during a football game. Again as I said earlier. If it isn’t hurting the team on the field what is the problem. The minute their celebrations start getting flagged will be the minute I start having a problem with them. until then Oliver, Shaq, Phillips, Trey et al ENJOY THE GAME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Nope. If you see it you know they're producing. That's what you want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, PUNT750 said: It's great these 2 defensive lineman are making big plays and helping the TEAM win. Personally, I don't feel the look-at-me celebrations flatter either of them. I believe you’re the same guy that said Oliver doesn’t need to play anymore and Vince Taylor was going to be playing a lot. 9 minutes ago, Virgil said: please re-read what I wrote. I didn’t say I have a problem with celebrating. I said I don’t like mocking other teams or their fans. Dak and Tre are friends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Everything is ‘look at me’ for this generation of players. I don’t connect with it because it’s exactly the opposite of what was valued when I played into college. It’s not wrong, just different. Constant contact due to social media has changed a lot of old behaviors. I think if Sean had a problem with it, it would stop. Right there with you. These players are of a generation that it’s cool to celebrate like that, and coaches accept it (within limits). My generation, you wanted to rub a guy’s nose in it you acted like it was no big deal beating him. Plus if you drew attention to yourself like these guys do, coaches then would have stuck you to the bench for showing off. i don’t like it but accept it’s the way things are today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Meh, I think they felt disrespected for long enough. Basically a lot of people have been calling them a fraud, saying they would get whooped in Dallas, they were tired of the disrespect so they were giving it back and making them eat crow. That's kinda the way I took it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.W. Cyclone Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: You can always tell the older fans. They want a person to hide their personality during a football game. Again as I said earlier. If it isn’t hurting the team on the field what is the problem. The minute their celebrations start getting flagged will be the minute I start having a problem with them. until then Oliver, Shaq, Phillips, Trey et al ENJOY THE GAME I'm 54 and I totally love it and find it to be a breath of fresh air. Why not be a little chippy after the way the league and national media has disrespected us for years. It shows me that no one is going to push them around any longeer Edited November 30, 2019 by Blackkat19 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Could have their own show some day, Lunch with Shaq & ED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 For crying out loud!!!!!!!! We are 9-3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 No because most players aren't like that and I think it contributes to the teams intensity! I would guess that MCD doesn't love that kind of thing alot though, SHAQ hasnt been signed and there were some comments by mcdermott alluding to Oliver a while back, although nothing clear I can remember. Just now, fansince88 said: For crying out loud!!!!!!!! We are 9-3 Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 No. Do you have a second question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Wasn't it Marv Levy who told the team that when they scored a touchdown (or a sack)...."Try and look like you have been there before" I think that is good guidance. All those gestures are not going to get you paid more. Your play gets you paid, not your antics. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Nope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 40 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: just embarrassed a Cowboys OL that is talked about as one of the best in the league. In their house. After being told they are frauds. jesus people it is entertainment aaron Darnold dances and talks a ton of trash as well. (All players do) Thats alot of trash talk for a .5 sack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Virgil said: I’ll be honest, yes. I didn’t like waiving goodbye to the Cowboys fans. I didn’t like Tre dance-mocking Dak. I didn’t like the comments about saying Dak shouldn’t get paid. We’ve accomplished nothing yet and are coming off 20 years where we were always on the other side of things. I understand celebrating and having fun, but you can do it without disrespecting the other team and their fans. I know we haven’t been here before, but act like it. I disagree... ***** the Cowboys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Wasn't it Marv Levy who told the team that when they scored a touchdown (or a sack)...."Try and look like you have been there before" I think that is good guidance. All those gestures are not going to get you paid more. Your play gets you paid, not your antics. they are not going to hurt them from being paid more either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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