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Brian Flores changes course and names Fitz the starter vs Bills


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2 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

When Josh Rosen was touted as the "MOST NFL ready" QB pre-draft by the ultra-intelligent analysts we see on TV and hear on radio, that would indicate a team wouldn't have to wait 1 1/2 - 4 years for his ascendancy to that level of play.  In fact, being "NFL ready" means he should have been ready to go from Day 1 (unlike the other "project QB" taken in the draft). I know, I know...he had a bad O line and no weapons around him.  Doesn't that sound familiar given what the "project QB" (JA) had to deal with last year?

 

OK, but when you look year after year how many 1st round drafted QB's flame out, shows that all  these experts who tout him really know very little.  For whatever reason the QB position appears to be the hardest to project how they fared in college to how much success they will have in the NFL.  If he were drafted in the 4th round, would you be saying the same thing or then would people be saying give him some time.  Admittedly in todays NFL, no players get any time.

 

Maybe he will still succeed, but for whatever reason it's taking him the longest, who know.  He also was the guy most projected to say I don't need football too, so could just be he's not motivated enough, maybe in the right situation that will change, but the odds are stacked against him.

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49 minutes ago, Logic said:


I'M stunned that bills fans have become so certain, so fast, that the Bills are incapable of laying a stinker on the field and losing a game they should win, ESPECIALLY to a desperate team with Fitzpatrick at quarterback.

I'm not saying the Bills WILL lose, mind you, I'm just not at the "Bills are great, definitely getting 12 wins" stage just yet. They've played one good team this year, and they lost. Is it that unreasonable to acknowledge that any given NFL team can beat any other NFL team on any given Sunday? 

Not unreasonable at all, but very unlikely the fins come out with a win, this is not Fitzies old Bills teams. SM will make it known to the whole team that anything but full effort will embarrass themselves and Buffalo.

Yes it’s still early in the season for long term predictions, but I think we are trending in the right direction, jmo. 

 

Go Bills!!!

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16 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said:

The Fish have no talent and some are worried now that Fitz is QBing them?

 

LOL

 

He did so well against Baltimore!

 

He also threw for 89 yards against New England with no TDs and 3 INTs.  Our pass defense is not significantly worse than New England's.

 

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2 hours ago, Logic said:


I'M stunned that bills fans have become so certain, so fast, that the Bills are incapable of laying a stinker on the field and losing a game they should win, ESPECIALLY to a desperate team with Fitzpatrick at quarterback.

I'm not saying the Bills WILL lose, mind you, I'm just not at the "Bills are great, definitely getting 12 wins" stage just yet. They've played one good team this year, and they lost. Is it that unreasonable to acknowledge that any given NFL team can beat any other NFL team on any given Sunday? 

I was stunned that the Bills, with a very green Josh Allen pressed into playing by the horrific performance of Nathan Peterman, were able to soundly thrash the Vikings in Week 3 last year. Don’t take anything for granted!

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32 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said:

I think people are more fearful of the Bills going full out Billsy more than they are fearful of Fitz.


No, it’s Fitz they are fearful of. You didn’t see any I’m worried about the Fish crap when it was thought Rosen was their starter.

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4 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

I’d have rather faced Rosen.

 

Fitz gave that whole team a spark when he came in and almost completed a comeback. Everyone looked like they played harder for Fitz. 

 

Its obviously still a game we should win. Hopefully we don’t get the good Fitz that shows up a couple game per season (though I do have faith in our defense if we get good Fitz). 

Agree. Fitz always plays with a chip on his shoulder against the Bills. Fortunately his surrounding cast is pretty bad and shouldn't be a problem against our D.

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1 hour ago, Putin said:

I cant blame Flores for starting Fitzy ,  putting Rosen against our defense without much help up front is SUICIDE , 

 

Reminds me of what the Cards did to him when Bradford went down last season.

 

He was thrown to the wolves. Maybe Miami is smarter than that. (No they’re not). 

 

 

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3 hours ago, thurst44 said:

If he hits on his throws to Jack Nicklaus' grandson, I win Lazy Announcers Reference Bingo!

The Harvard Grad, who wears a wedding band while playing, completes a pass to the TE grandson of Jack Nicklaus who was tackled by Nat King Cole's grandson, a surprise call up from the practice squad.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said:


No, it’s Fitz they are fearful of. You didn’t see any I’m worried about the Fish crap when it was thought Rosen was their starter.

 

Nah, I saw it when Rosen was said to start.  What we're fearful of is overconfidence leading the Bills to ease off and lay down a stinker.  You know, kind of like the Bills went into Minnesota and pulled off last year.

 

It's just kind of a litmus test for McDermott's grip on the locker room and the coordinators grip on the game.  McDermott is saying all the right things about week by week and "any given Sunday", the question is whether the players fully buy into them.

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5 hours ago, whatdrought said:

 

I mean, none of it makes sense. The biggest mystery is why they wasted a second round pick on Rosen... 

yep- play Rosen and get the kid experience and see what you really have.

1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I was stunned that the Bills, with a very green Josh Allen pressed into playing by the horrific performance of Nathan Peterman, were able to soundly thrash the Vikings in Week 3 last year. Don’t take anything for granted!

Any given Sunday right? But my guess is McD has these boys ready to go.

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The last Bills game I watched in BUF was in 2012 vs. TEN.   Fitz failed to get a first down with 2:00 left and 1 TO just needing a FG. I knew at that moment that Fitz was not our answer at QB.

 

Well, I will be back to BUF this weekend only to watch Fitz again.  As much as I like the guy, I hope  we drive him out of the game.  I'm nervous though as a normal Bills fan would be.  The last 20 years have done that.

 

Can't tell you how pissed I will be if we lose to Fitz/Fish.

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52 minutes ago, freddyjj said:

here is Rosen's reaction

 

Image result for kid with stage fright runs away gif

 

Rosen has hung tough and kept trying. 
He hasn't been effective, but that's a long way from peeing himself.

I've been thinking about this.  I saw a twitter thing (can't remember from whom) about "Stop Making Excuses for Josh Rosen", he's just not "elevating the team".  Well, great QB or even good QB do elevate the team, but I don't think they commonly walk in the door doing that.  Andrew Luck did, but not many others.

 

But you know, while the NFL has had its genuine busts, the NFL is also littered with guys who can actually play QB at the NFL level and who were labeled busts after their first seasons even on decent teams with decent coaches.  The Chargers drafted Philip Rivers because after 3 years, they thought Drew Brees just couldn't play well enough.  Then there are examples playing on inept or relatively inept teams, like Steve Young (Tampa Bay thought he couldn't play) and Alex Smith (made lists of Biggests QB Busts before Harbaugh took over).

 

This article has a viewpoint:

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/set-up-to-fail--the-josh-rosen-story

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