Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: When Josh Rosen was touted as the "MOST NFL ready" QB pre-draft by the ultra-intelligent analysts we see on TV and hear on radio, that would indicate a team wouldn't have to wait 1 1/2 - 4 years for his ascendancy to that level of play. In fact, being "NFL ready" means he should have been ready to go from Day 1 (unlike the other "project QB" taken in the draft). I know, I know...he had a bad O line and no weapons around him. Doesn't that sound familiar given what the "project QB" (JA) had to deal with last year? OK, but when you look year after year how many 1st round drafted QB's flame out, shows that all these experts who tout him really know very little. For whatever reason the QB position appears to be the hardest to project how they fared in college to how much success they will have in the NFL. If he were drafted in the 4th round, would you be saying the same thing or then would people be saying give him some time. Admittedly in todays NFL, no players get any time. Maybe he will still succeed, but for whatever reason it's taking him the longest, who know. He also was the guy most projected to say I don't need football too, so could just be he's not motivated enough, maybe in the right situation that will change, but the odds are stacked against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, fan_in_tx said: FWIW... Fitz has beaten us before. Almost twice. More than that if you count the times he did it while wearing a Bills uniform. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 What worse way is there to rattle the confidence of a second year QB by practically dropping him in to a blender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 36 minutes ago, Logic said: Does not compute. I am incapable of not worrying about the Bills. It's just who I am as a person. me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 49 minutes ago, Logic said: I'M stunned that bills fans have become so certain, so fast, that the Bills are incapable of laying a stinker on the field and losing a game they should win, ESPECIALLY to a desperate team with Fitzpatrick at quarterback. I'm not saying the Bills WILL lose, mind you, I'm just not at the "Bills are great, definitely getting 12 wins" stage just yet. They've played one good team this year, and they lost. Is it that unreasonable to acknowledge that any given NFL team can beat any other NFL team on any given Sunday? Not unreasonable at all, but very unlikely the fins come out with a win, this is not Fitzies old Bills teams. SM will make it known to the whole team that anything but full effort will embarrass themselves and Buffalo. Yes it’s still early in the season for long term predictions, but I think we are trending in the right direction, jmo. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Hoping we get Bad Fitzy, obviously. I don’t know how you don’t get lynched in the locker room if he stayed with Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 The Bills could end Fitzy's career... Josh Rosen's too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I love Fitz but would not be disappointed in a beard tackle or two. You could hide a German Shepard in that thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I cant blame Flores for starting Fitzy , putting Rosen against our defense without much help up front is SUICIDE , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Not good. Definitely worth a moneyline bet on the Fins now to drown my misery if we blow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 The Fish have no talent and some are worried now that Fitz is QBing them? LOL He did so well against Baltimore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: The Fish have no talent and some are worried now that Fitz is QBing them? LOL He did so well against Baltimore! I think people are more fearful of the Bills going full out Billsy more than they are fearful of Fitz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) Fitzbeardy has nothing to throw or handoff to. We should win easily. Edited October 16, 2019 by Freddie's Dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: The Fish have no talent and some are worried now that Fitz is QBing them? LOL He did so well against Baltimore! He also threw for 89 yards against New England with no TDs and 3 INTs. Our pass defense is not significantly worse than New England's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 This is really a shame...I was really looking forward to watching Rosen get destroyed by our D this week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregonbillsfan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Where are all the guys who said we picked the wrong Josh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Logic said: I'M stunned that bills fans have become so certain, so fast, that the Bills are incapable of laying a stinker on the field and losing a game they should win, ESPECIALLY to a desperate team with Fitzpatrick at quarterback. I'm not saying the Bills WILL lose, mind you, I'm just not at the "Bills are great, definitely getting 12 wins" stage just yet. They've played one good team this year, and they lost. Is it that unreasonable to acknowledge that any given NFL team can beat any other NFL team on any given Sunday? I was stunned that the Bills, with a very green Josh Allen pressed into playing by the horrific performance of Nathan Peterman, were able to soundly thrash the Vikings in Week 3 last year. Don’t take anything for granted! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 32 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: I think people are more fearful of the Bills going full out Billsy more than they are fearful of Fitz. No, it’s Fitz they are fearful of. You didn’t see any I’m worried about the Fish crap when it was thought Rosen was their starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 this worries me more than it should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: I’d have rather faced Rosen. Fitz gave that whole team a spark when he came in and almost completed a comeback. Everyone looked like they played harder for Fitz. Its obviously still a game we should win. Hopefully we don’t get the good Fitz that shows up a couple game per season (though I do have faith in our defense if we get good Fitz). Agree. Fitz always plays with a chip on his shoulder against the Bills. Fortunately his surrounding cast is pretty bad and shouldn't be a problem against our D. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Surprisingly on CBS Sportsline, the odd are currently at -17 for the Bills. The Bills are finally getting so love... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, fan_in_tx said: FWIW... Fitz has beaten us before. Almost twice. Rex Ryan defense got beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, chris heff said: I’m baffled as to why the Dolphins traded for Rosen. If you’re tanking you tank for a QB, so why give up a second and a fifth? So you can pretend that you are not tanking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: Not good. Definitely worth a moneyline bet on the Fins now to drown my misery if we blow it. True. Bills 17 point favorites and they are averaging 18 PPG... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Putin said: I cant blame Flores for starting Fitzy , putting Rosen against our defense without much help up front is SUICIDE , Reminds me of what the Cards did to him when Bradford went down last season. He was thrown to the wolves. Maybe Miami is smarter than that. (No they’re not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 bad Fitzy hopefully gets banged around like this http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000107956/Rams-pick-off-Fitzpatrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Fitznoodle- bring it!!!! Our D will be up to the task and our offense needs to cram the ball down Miamis throat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 hours ago, thurst44 said: If he hits on his throws to Jack Nicklaus' grandson, I win Lazy Announcers Reference Bingo! The Harvard Grad, who wears a wedding band while playing, completes a pass to the TE grandson of Jack Nicklaus who was tackled by Nat King Cole's grandson, a surprise call up from the practice squad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said: No, it’s Fitz they are fearful of. You didn’t see any I’m worried about the Fish crap when it was thought Rosen was their starter. Nah, I saw it when Rosen was said to start. What we're fearful of is overconfidence leading the Bills to ease off and lay down a stinker. You know, kind of like the Bills went into Minnesota and pulled off last year. It's just kind of a litmus test for McDermott's grip on the locker room and the coordinators grip on the game. McDermott is saying all the right things about week by week and "any given Sunday", the question is whether the players fully buy into them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, whatdrought said: I mean, none of it makes sense. The biggest mystery is why they wasted a second round pick on Rosen... yep- play Rosen and get the kid experience and see what you really have. 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: I was stunned that the Bills, with a very green Josh Allen pressed into playing by the horrific performance of Nathan Peterman, were able to soundly thrash the Vikings in Week 3 last year. Don’t take anything for granted! Any given Sunday right? But my guess is McD has these boys ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said: yep- play Rosen and get the kid experience and see what you really have. here is Rosen's reaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, freddyjj said: here is Rosen's reaction Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCNC Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 The last Bills game I watched in BUF was in 2012 vs. TEN. Fitz failed to get a first down with 2:00 left and 1 TO just needing a FG. I knew at that moment that Fitz was not our answer at QB. Well, I will be back to BUF this weekend only to watch Fitz again. As much as I like the guy, I hope we drive him out of the game. I'm nervous though as a normal Bills fan would be. The last 20 years have done that. Can't tell you how pissed I will be if we lose to Fitz/Fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Fitz plays us tough. Regardless of how much of a dumpster fire Miami is, I don't like this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, longtimebillsfan said: Surprisingly on CBS Sportsline, the odd are currently at -17 for the Bills. The Bills are finally getting so love... Or someone realizes the Phish smells like washed up dead fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: Rex Ryan defense got beat. He also beat us when he was with Houston, but he wasn’t good. That was the EJ game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Rosen would have been preferable as I would have loved seeing that smug mug of his eat dirt through out the afternoon. Fitz represents more of a risk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 52 minutes ago, freddyjj said: here is Rosen's reaction Rosen has hung tough and kept trying. He hasn't been effective, but that's a long way from peeing himself. I've been thinking about this. I saw a twitter thing (can't remember from whom) about "Stop Making Excuses for Josh Rosen", he's just not "elevating the team". Well, great QB or even good QB do elevate the team, but I don't think they commonly walk in the door doing that. Andrew Luck did, but not many others. But you know, while the NFL has had its genuine busts, the NFL is also littered with guys who can actually play QB at the NFL level and who were labeled busts after their first seasons even on decent teams with decent coaches. The Chargers drafted Philip Rivers because after 3 years, they thought Drew Brees just couldn't play well enough. Then there are examples playing on inept or relatively inept teams, like Steve Young (Tampa Bay thought he couldn't play) and Alex Smith (made lists of Biggests QB Busts before Harbaugh took over). This article has a viewpoint: https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/set-up-to-fail--the-josh-rosen-story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I need turnovers for Bills D in fantasy. Come on fitztragic! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I'm a little worried.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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