Josh Allen - week THREE report card

[BuffaloBill]

4 hours ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said:

 

Allen may have some issues, but its still early in his career. 

 

Some of his issues he's made strides in improvement, some not so much. But he's already checked off a few boxes, and one very important box is the "gamer" box. He's been more clutch at QB than we've seen in a long time.

 

 

Amen to this. He finds ways to win. Just win and everything else will fall into place. 

[BuffAlone]

in 13 career starts, 5 come from behind game winning drives."IT" is higher than his completion percentage

[Da webster guy]

I rewatched the offensive plays on the DVR.    Josh had a clean pocket on 6 dropbacks and that was it.

 

Grade him anyway you want, the majority of NFL qb's would've been sacked 10 times and left the field on a stretcher.

 

We lost Waddle to IR, traded Teller, and now Feliciano is hurt.  We have a rookie who isn't ready to be out there playing guard and we have a serious problem right now.

 

 

[BuffAlone]

1 minute ago, Da webster guy said:

I rewatched the offensive plays on the DVR.    Josh had a clean pocket on 6 dropbacks and that was it.

 

Grade him anyway you want, the majority of NFL qb's would've been sacked 10 times and left the field on a stretcher.

 

We lost Waddle to IR, traded Teller, and now Feliciano is hurt.  We have a rookie who isn't ready to be out there playing guard and we have a serious problem right now.

 

 

Ford is not ready to be out there? I disagree

[ganesh]

4 hours ago, billsfan_34 said:

I didn’t like his game today and I have been a Josh supporter. On to weeok 4

Not having Singleetary made the offense one dimensional and the Bengals DL had their way with the Bills OL

[Beast]

C for me.

 

They say you can’t fix stupid.

 

I hope that isn’t true.

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

 

It was awful but arm strength or not.  he was back peddling with a guy on top of him throwing into heavy wind.

Well he better get used to it because it's windy all the time.

[Wayne Arnold]

It took Daniel Jones a single start to have a 300 yard passing game. And he won the game, too.

 

14 starts for Allen. Still waiting.

[Lurker]

2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

It took Daniel Jones a single start to have a 300 yard passing game. And he won the game, too.

 

14 starts for Allen. Still waiting.

 

It took a botched FG attempt by TB to get that W, but whatever...

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

I'll go with a C

 

The game winning drive is great and all, but we were only trailing in that game due to poor QB play. He had 2 bone headed plays that probably should have cost us the game (and would have against a better team). I'm looking at the intentional grounding that got us out of FG range and the INT (similar looking plays). 

 

 

[Playoffs?]

1 hour ago, Pokebball said:

1) and 3) conflict though, right?  Those deeper plays take time to develop.  He seldom has that time.

 

Potentially but not always.  He has really only taken 2 deep shots and both were way off the mark. Yes, time is needed and he rarely has it... but when he does, would like to see him go for them and be more accurate. 

[HalftimeAdjustment]

I'd go with C+. At times, he flashed an "A" game but overall, it was an average outing in today's NFL... with a "+" because the team won. It's a team game, Allen doesn't get an "A" every time they win nor an "F" if they lose.

[Lurker]

Glad to see McD's blunt assesment after the game:

 

“You’ve got to be smart,” McDermott said. “You can’t throw the ball over the middle of the defense like that. I thought that was a play that changed the momentum of the game. Before that, their offense really hadn’t done much, and I thought our defense did well. And then that really, to me, changed the momentum of the game. In particular, turning the ball over on our side of the field. So we’ve got to learn from that and play smarter football. That’s really what I’m looking for, is to play smart.”

 

https://buffalonews.com/2019/09/22/buffalo-bills-josh-allen-needs-to-be-man-enough-to-learn-from-mistakes/

[Punching Bag]

5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He seemed to struggle with the coverages generally today. Shout out to the two Cincy corners (both first rounders in their own right) I though they had very good games. 

 

Well yes they did except when Knox was running over the DBs.

[rayray808]

Daniel Jones 300 yard performance holds no ground... the yards after catch that his WRʻs and TEʻs got were ridiculous... Josh has yet to experience having team mates like that

[mrags]

6 hours ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said:

 

Report cards are always letters, bud.

 

I never got a 3 in math

 

I didn't like a few plays, but overall, he did enough to win. That's all that really matters...for today anyways. Those issues need to be corrected if we're ever going to compete with the big boys.

Pffff. I probably put up a 3 at least once or twice in high school. 

[CincyBillsFan]

5 minutes ago, rayray808 said:

Daniel Jones 300 yard performance holds no ground... the yards after catch that his WRʻs and TEʻs got were ridiculous... Josh has yet to experience having team mates like that

 

Good point about the lack of YAC for the Bills.  That's what made the Knox catch & run so cool - it was one of the best YAC efforts this season with the other two being Brown's winning TD catch & run against the Jets and Beasley's big catch against the Giants.  We need more of this though.

 

 

[BigDingus]

6 hours ago, rayray808 said:

23/36 - 243 yards - 1 TD, 1 INT - 9 carries for 46 yards

 

WEEK 1: B-

WEEK 2: B

WEEK 3: C+

 

Today we got to see "streaky Josh" and it is my biggest fear about him. I am okay however if it is a few bad plays during a quarter, followed by a game winning drive. I just donʻt want his "lows" to last entire games.

 

I had him at a B-, however the INT is inexcusable... especially after experiencing the intentional grounding call. That should have been the light bulb moment. Heck, even the fumble should have been a learning moment where he realizes he just needs to settle in and put the nail in the coffin.

 

All in all, he is still progressing along enough to prove that he can take over this franchise and lead us to greatness. Today just happened to be his worst game of the season thus far IMO.

 

You might as well start breaking it down by half, because this disappearing act for an entire half followed by pulling it together at the very end isn't going to cut it.

On the flip side, compared to 4 turnovers in week 1, I'd say Allen deserves a higher grade than that.

1 hour ago, Lurker said:

 

It took a botched FG attempt by TB to get that W, but whatever...

 

Oh please, it took the Jets missing an XP AND a FG for us to eek out a win in week 1, and it's taken the defense to play at a ridiculously high level to even stay in all 3 games... "but whatever."

Edited September 23, 2019 by BigDingus

[hemma]

Yeah, he's so bad it makes me yearn for Tyrod Taylor.  Tyrod had lotsa comeback wins.

 

not 

[HalftimeAdjustment]

1 hour ago, HalftimeAdjustment said:

I'd go with C+. At times, he flashed an "A" game but overall, it was an average outing in today's NFL... with a "+" because the team won. It's a team game, Allen doesn't get an "A" every time they win nor an "F" if they lose.

 

After further consideration of how bad the OL played, and giving credit for clutch play, I should have gone with B-.

[NickelCity]

He's clutch, which is something we'll seriously come to value. 

 

That int, for as bad as it was, was more easy for me to take then him reading defenses poorly and getting found out. It was just a dumbass hero attempt that can be coached in black and white: don't throw in that situation, ever. 

[BuffaloBob]

2 hours ago, Lurker said:

 

It took a botched FG attempt by TB to get that W, but whatever...

Yes, but apparently Jones had something to with that botched kick, hence the assertion that HE won the game. How else can one win a team game all by oneself??

[ganesh]

3 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

I'll go with a C

 

The game winning drive is great and all, but we were only trailing in that game due to poor QB play. He had 2 bone headed plays that probably should have cost us the game (and would have against a better team). I'm looking at the intentional grounding that got us out of FG range and the INT (similar looking plays). 

 

 

Didn't Yeldon lost the ball inside the Bengals Red Zone.  Why blame only Allen.     We didn't score TDs and settled for FG in two other trips into the red zone.

[BillsfaninSB]

If Yeldon did not fumble this would have been a much different game.

[John from Riverside]

2 hours ago, Lurker said:

Glad to see McD's blunt assesment after the game:

 

“You’ve got to be smart,” McDermott said. “You can’t throw the ball over the middle of the defense like that. I thought that was a play that changed the momentum of the game. Before that, their offense really hadn’t done much, and I thought our defense did well. And then that really, to me, changed the momentum of the game. In particular, turning the ball over on our side of the field. So we’ve got to learn from that and play smarter football. That’s really what I’m looking for, is to play smart.”

 

https://buffalonews.com/2019/09/22/buffalo-bills-josh-allen-needs-to-be-man-enough-to-learn-from-mistakes/

Good to hear him say it.....and its true

 

We also dont win this game without him

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

If Allen just heaves the ball up with reckless abandon the Pats will be destroying us, that's the part of his game you deal with though as a gunslinger, unfortunately it almost lost us the game but like he has done before he never gave up and came back to help win the game for us. 

[ganesh]

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

 

 

We also dont win this game without him

this 

[Chandler#81]

7 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

We just won NFL Redzone's "Drive of the day"

This, plus both he & Gore tripping each other -they both went face first into the turf. Josh fumbled, picked it up jumped to his feet and made a short completion. Stat sheet shows meager 3 yard gain. But the crowd and savvy fans know that was a fantastic recovery. As was ‘the Drive’!

 

Grade: A

[Scott7975]

9 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Well he better get used to it because it's windy all the time.

 

Yeah but the problem, to me anyways, was not his arm. The problem was he did the wrong thing. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

4 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

This, plus both he & Gore tripping each other -they both went face first into the turf. Josh fumbled, picked it up jumped to his feet and made a short completion. Stat sheet shows meager 3 yard gain. But the crowd and savvy fans know that was a fantastic recovery. As was ‘the Drive’!

 

Grade: A

 

I like it!

 

[Magox]

13 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said:

D

 

Passing grade thanks to the win. But he was poor all day long.

 

You didn't watch the game did you?

 

 

In any case, I give him a B -

 

His first half was at a very high level, the rest of the offense made mistakes and they could have easily came away with over 20 points by half time.  

 

The pick was inexcusable and led to a complete momentum shift.  He was flustered after that pick for the next couple drives but when the rubber met the road Josh Allen does what he just about always does, he came through.   The guy is an exceptionally cool when the pressure is on and that is a tremendous quality to have. 

 

The play calling this time coming out of the half I would characterize as too conservative, last week when lots of fans were hemming and hawing about how the game plan was conservative in the 2nd half, they were wrong.  The Bills were not conservative they just didn't execute and it gave the appearance of them being too conservative.  This week in the 2nd half the Bills tried running it too often and threw on downs that were predictably passing downs and Josh wasn't able to get things going.  

 

The Bills are best when they are running the shotgun formation at least half the time, Josh is able to see the field more clearly and the Bills keep the defenses more off balance, at least from my observations.

 

I gave him an A for the first half and D for the second half.  Would have been an F (due to that atrocious pick) if it hadn't been for his last drive heroics but he came through.

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

B  for me. He needs to never throw a ball like that again in his life and I love the clip of Daboll really laying into him on the sideline. 

 

But he came through in the clutch when needed..again! The positives far outweighs the negative.

 

O line needs to shore up their protection and Daboll needs to get out of the reverses on third and one. We don’t need to act like we are smarter than everyone, pound the ball get the first.

 

 

[GunnerBill]

9 minutes ago, Magox said:

 

You didn't watch the game did you?

 

 

In any case, I give him a B -

 

His first half was at a very high level, the rest of the offense made mistakes and they could have easily came away with over 20 points by half time.  

 

The pick was inexcusable and led to a complete momentum shift.  He was flustered after that pick for the next couple drives but when the rubber met the road Josh Allen does what he just about always does, he came through.   The guy is an exceptionally cool when the pressure is on and that is a tremendous quality to have. 

 

The play calling this time coming out of the half I would characterize as too conservative, last week when lots of fans were hemming and hawing about how the game plan was conservative in the 2nd half, they were wrong.  The Bills were not conservative they just didn't execute and it gave the appearance of them being too conservative.  This week in the 2nd half the Bills tried running it too often and threw on downs that were predictably passing downs and Josh wasn't able to get things going.  

 

The Bills are best when they are running the shotgun formation at least half the time, Josh is able to see the field more clearly and the Bills keep the defenses more off balance, at least from my observations.

 

I gave him an A for the first half and D for the second half.  Would have been an F (due to that atrocious pick) if it hadn't been for his last drive heroics but he came through.

 

I went C+ but my general reflection of his game is the same as yours.