Dr.Sack Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I’m waiting game when Allen has a game like this; 300 yards passing and 100 yards rushing. I believe he will do that this weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I bet you McD could neuter Mahomes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, mykidsdad said: As a Bill's fan, sure, but if I'm trying to be objective, not so much. Mahomes is friggin magical. And I can think of other players at other positions, too. If JA starts having some 400 yard passing days I will change my mind. Suggesting that Josh Allen is literally the most exciting player in the NFL is ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Julio Jones always brings it... I can't think of a more acrobatic money WR that puts on a show and doesn't act like a showboating moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Mahomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Suggesting that Josh Allen is literally the most exciting player in the NFL is ridiculous. Suggesting that he is not is also ridiculous... it's a matter of opinion and if its not yours, then you're acting ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 #MinshewMania 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Are you Josh's mom? Cause you sound like my mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Seven-N-Nine said: If they go 3-0 it's going to get real stupid around here. Oh, not as stupid as when we go 4-0, that will be epic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Seven-N-Nine said: If they go 3-0 it's going to get real stupid around here. Even more than it is now?? 8 hours ago, ILBillsfan said: Mahomes Jackson mayfield and Allen can fans could same the same thing but mahomes eould be tops Wtf?!?? ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) I don't know if he is the most exciting player in the NFL; however, I love the way he plays the game - and I am excited about the potential of this team if he continues to build on the progress he has shown over the first two games of the season. He has a lot of room for improvement (of course) after only 13 NFL games; however, it is clear how much better he has gotten in such a short time. Which is a pretty good indicator of his future potenial. He has only played two games this season; but, the results are encouraging. Just for fun, I thought I would gather some numbers just to get a summary of what the offense has done so far: Two games. In spite of the common perception that they played two of the worse teams in the NFL, Allen and the offense have faced one good defensive team and one bad defensive team. The Jets have the 6th ranked defense from a DVOA (Defense-adjusted Value Over Average) perspective, while the Giants have the 31st. Link: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef/2019 Offense Per Game 9th in Yds per game 13th in yds per play 10th in pts per game 19th in passing yds per game 14th in yds per attempt 9th in rushing yds per game 11th in avg yds per rush 6th in total 1st downs per game 14th in 3rd down conversions Link: https://www.footballdb.com/stats/teamstat.html?group=O&cat=T 3rd in number of TD drives of +70 yds https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/drive_finder.cgi Offense Per Drive 22 Drives 28th in starting Line of Scrimmage per drive 9th in starting Line of Scrimmage after Kick Off 18th in plays per drive 13th in yds per drive 13th in pts per drive 10th in TDs per drive 26th in FGs per drive 4th in TD/FG 1st in Pts per Red Zone trip 1st in TDs per Red Zone trip 9th in Drive Success Rate (percentage of down series that result in a first down or touchdown) 12th in Avg. Lead at the start of drive 20th in Time of Possession per drive 18th in Punts per drive 28th in 3 and Outs per drive 29th in turnovers per drive 21st in interceptions per drive 28th in fumbles per drive Link: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/drivestatsoff/2019 Only two games into a long season. While there is so much room for growth, I see a lot of good signs. Go Bills! Edited September 21, 2019 by billsfan1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Barkley is really fun to watch and the most exciting running back since Barry Sanders. Just as long as we don't play him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: I bet you McD could neuter Mahomes..... McD's offensive philosophy is to win 17-13, no 300 yard games and to control the clock & field position. Saw this as soon as the Bills had a 14 point lead on the Giants. Play not to lose, not win..... I expect Mahomes would be more a game manager here..... Please prove me wrong McD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 14 hours ago, notwoz said: If I had to choose between an exciting player and a Super bowl winning player, guess which one I'd pick. But you don’t get to pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 14 hours ago, Sunshower said: I can’t think of one and the best part is he plays the most important position. Win or lose, good play or bad he is just a super fun player to watch. He can throw the ball 70 yards effortlessly after avoiding a sure sack and when nothing is there he turns into essentially a 6’5 250lbs running back with 4.6 speed. Is there any NFL player in the game more exciting than Allen? Kamara? Barkley? Lamar? How can you not mention Mahomes? (Kamara and Barkley? LOL). He doubled Allen's Season TD output in a single Quarter. slow down and take the box of Kleenex... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Mahomes, Odell, Hopkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 12 hours ago, Ralonzo said: Two pedals in that picture, hit the gas Blech... I’d prefer to hit the lights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 14 hours ago, Seven-N-Nine said: If they go 3-0 it's going to get real stupid around here. Is already been stupid around here. We'll all just be happy and stupid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 16 hours ago, notwoz said: If I had to choose between an exciting player and a Super bowl winning player, guess which one I'd pick. Any P*ts player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 15 hours ago, Aireskoi said: I'm not putting him ahead of Patrick DiMarco, but Josh is 2nd for sure. Seriously I just told my buddy today that Josh is the most exciting player in the NFL, and that I'm biased but so what. Josh is the man, he's as smart as he is athletic. His arm and legs could diminish over time but he will become a QB Jedi by then. Eh, maybe it’s just me but I have no issue putting him ahead of Pat DiMarco. I don’t know. I guess, for me, Fullback just isn’t a very exciting position to watch play. Now, Pat Mahomes on the other hand.... lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aireskoi Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Just now, BillsFan4 said: Eh, maybe it’s just me but I have no issue putting him ahead of Pat DiMarco. I don’t know. I guess, for me, Fullback just isn’t a very exciting position to watch play. Now, Pat Mahomes on the other hand.... lol You don't like to watch FB? It's an acquired taste, they should get more ADULATION around here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Mahomes and Lamar Jackson are " more " exciting than JA....... Kamara...maybe even T. Hill....there's a few actually....now, should we care ?..nope....we don't need exciting ( although it's fun ).....we need solid fundamental winning football.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: McD's offensive philosophy is to win 17-13, no 300 yard games and to control the clock & field position. Saw this as soon as the Bills had a 14 point lead on the Giants. Play not to lose, not win..... I expect Mahomes would be more a game manager here..... Please prove me wrong McD. ...woefully HATE that style of ball......that was Dopey Dickie Jauron's "signature".....Mahomes is in a good situation with Andy, although Andy has been guilty of "turtle ball".....don't remember the exact game, but Alex came out like a machined torch in the first half, complete dominance......which disappeared in the 2nd....guess I missed the memo about "60 minutes pedal to the metal" being unacceptable.....hell Belichick would kick a FG up 42-7...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: McD's offensive philosophy is to win 17-13, no 300 yard games and to control the clock & field position. Saw this as soon as the Bills had a 14 point lead on the Giants. Play not to lose, not win..... I expect Mahomes would be more a game manager here..... Please prove me wrong McD. We beat the Giants 28-14. control the clock, play not to lose, game manager..... how many tired cliches can you put in 2 sentences. How did we try to control the clock to start the Jets game? By passing every down. This is a team with a strong defense and young QB... no need to get into shootouts, but I have no worry that we won't use Allen to his full ability. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never NEVER Give-up Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Yep, Antonio Brown. . . . whoops! Not anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, klos63 said: We beat the Giants 28-14. control the clock, play not to lose, game manager..... how many tired cliches can you put in 2 sentences. How did we try to control the clock to start the Jets game? By passing every down. This is a team with a strong defense and young QB... no need to get into shootouts, but I have no worry that we won't use Allen to his full ability. Buffalo already does IMO, Does anybody remember how the Falcons lost the Superbowl? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 16 hours ago, Seven-N-Nine said: If they go 3-0 it's going to get real stupid around here. It’s already getting there at 2-0. But, we’re fans, and this is what makes the season fun. Enjoy it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: McD's offensive philosophy is to win 17-13, no 300 yard games and to control the clock & field position. Saw this as soon as the Bills had a 14 point lead on the Giants. Play not to lose, not win..... I expect Mahomes would be more a game manager here..... Please prove me wrong McD. Prove all of us wrong! We lost a couple of games last season that i can remember simply because they hit the breaks way too early......this philosophy will not fly when they play the Cheats....they will get pulverized if they play it safe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 13 hours ago, bbb said: #MinshewMania Yep, I came to post Minshew. A 6th round rookie QB on a team national media covers less than the Bills is among the most popular players in the NFL right now. I think once Josh gets some more wins under his belt, his star will grow nationally. Without a cool mustache or naked stretching in the locker room, Josh has to earn his fame the traditional way. If we're 5-1, everyone will be talking about Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 7 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: McD's offensive philosophy is to win 17-13, no 300 yard games and to control the clock & field position. Saw this as soon as the Bills had a 14 point lead on the Giants. Play not to lose, not win..... I expect Mahomes would be more a game manager here..... Please prove me wrong McD. You realize that we came out passing to start the 3rd qtr against the Giants, right? Knox dropped a pass right in his hands that would have been a big gain, we had penalties on each drive to start the 3rd that helped kill those drives. I believe 7 of the first 10 plays were passing plays. You're not really paying attention to the games, are you? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, klos63 said: You realize that we came out passing to start the 3rd qtr against the Giants, right? Knox dropped a pass right in his hands that would have been a big gain, we had penalties on each drive to start the 3rd that helped kill those drives. I believe 7 of the first 10 plays were passing plays. You're not really paying attention to the games, are you? If you are arguing McDermott is not a conservative coach, you're wrong. He is very much an old school, traditional, conservative, football guy. We've seen plenty from him now to make that judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: If you are arguing McDermott is not a conservative coach, you're wrong. He is very much an old school, traditional, conservative, football guy. We've seen plenty from him now to make that judgment. Based on what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 18 hours ago, Sunshower said: I can’t think of one and the best part is he plays the most important position. Win or lose, good play or bad he is just a super fun player to watch. He can throw the ball 70 yards effortlessly after avoiding a sure sack and when nothing is there he turns into essentially a 6’5 250lbs running back with 4.6 speed. Is there any NFL player in the game more exciting than Allen? Kamara? Barkley? Lamar? Seriously? Have you watched any NFL games except the Bills vs Jets and Giants? When Josh Allen starts regularly throwing for 300+ yards and multiple TDs per game, he might be in the conversation, but so far this season, he's not come close to Mahomes or Jackson in passing, and he's not close to Jackson in running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I am a Josh fan but a rational person can not say he is the most exciting player in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Mahomes by a mile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Josh Allen is certainly one the games most exciting players. Did you see play where he forces fumble by swatting ball from Marcus Mariota? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBob Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 19 hours ago, Seven-N-Nine said: If they go 3-0 it's going to get real stupid around here. If they go 4-0, I’m joining them! ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 3 hours ago, BuffaloBob said: If they go 4-0, I’m joining them! ?? If we go 4-0, I’m buying Super Bowl tickets! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 22 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: I mean, I think the non-homer answer has to be Mahomes. But I understand picking Allen. Heck, I think Kyler is pretty exciting already, if for no other reason than the sheer peril he is in every play. Guy his size may get knocked into the phantom zone if a DE gets a head of steam and a clean shot on him Hes so smalll it actually looks funny on tv. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 F#@$!*$ A!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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