StHustle Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I hope the first thing he teaches her is his hard learned lesson on keeping your head on a swivel Bills kicker: Will help Lloyd, hope she goes for it If U.S. soccer star Carli Lloyd pursues an NFL career, Stephen Hauschka wants to help however he can. The Buffalo Bills place-kicker told ESPN on Thursday night he is "excited" for Lloyd, who went viral last week after a video of her kicking a 55-yard field goal during a Philadelphia Eagles-Baltimore Ravens practice led to multiple offers from NFL teams. Hauschka, 34, played soccer at Middlebury College before transitioning to football, and said he can relate to Lloyd's consideration to make a similar career move. "I saw the way she kicked that ball and she's obviously got a lot of talent," Hauschka said after the Bills' preseason finale. "It feels close to my heart because when I was 18, 19 years old, I was a soccer player and I had a dream of kicking footballs just for my Division III college team. I was fortunate enough to have an opportunity and I had a coach that showed me how to do it. "If it's something she really wants to do, not only will I help her out -- if she wants it -- but I hope she goes for it. I do think it's possible to kick well in this league as a female. It's a very mental position, it's physical, it's technical and I think it could be done eventually." Read Full Article Seriously though, I think women playing in the NFL in any capacity is unrealistic simply because of the physical aspect. I understand there are woman out there built like men but it's just different when a male kicker is getting laid out than if it's a female the target of those same hits. I can't see this happening. 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 If a woman plays anywhere in the NFL it will be as a PK. But unless she can routinely hit 60 yarders, would be surprised if any team actually signed 1. As much as the league tries to protect QB's and kickers, doubt that she wouldn't get cheap shotted weekly. And a hit to her thigh could cause a career ending knee injury fairly easily. Could see a female as an NFL PK or an NHL goalie, but she'd need to have a LOT of Jackie Robinson 's temperament and also be truly outstanding like he was. And can't see a woman taking any other "big 4" league player role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Taro T said: If a woman plays anywhere in the NFL it will be as a PK. But unless she can routinely hit 60 yarders, would be surprised if any team actually signed 1. As much as the league tries to protect QB's and kickers, doubt that she wouldn't get cheap shotted weekly. And a hit to her thigh could cause a career ending knee injury fairly easily. Could see a female as an NFL PK or an NHL goalie, but she'd need to have a LOT of Jackie Robinson 's temperament and also be truly outstanding like he was. And can't see a woman taking any other "big 4" league player role. Maybe a DH in MLB but again she would have to be a beast of a woman and a better slugger than the bulk of the men in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, StHustle said: Maybe a DH in MLB but again she would have to be a beast of a woman and a better slugger than the bulk of the men in the league. Any examples of women that might fill that role presently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Taro T said: Any examples of women that might fill that role presently? This girl can do it. She's been breaking world records! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 can she punt? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 3 hours ago, StHustle said: I hope the first thing he teaches her is his hard learned lesson on keeping your head on a swivel Bills kicker: Will help Lloyd, hope she goes for it If U.S. soccer star Carli Lloyd pursues an NFL career, Stephen Hauschka wants to help however he can. The Buffalo Bills place-kicker told ESPN on Thursday night he is "excited" for Lloyd, who went viral last week after a video of her kicking a 55-yard field goal during a Philadelphia Eagles-Baltimore Ravens practice led to multiple offers from NFL teams. Hauschka, 34, played soccer at Middlebury College before transitioning to football, and said he can relate to Lloyd's consideration to make a similar career move. "I saw the way she kicked that ball and she's obviously got a lot of talent," Hauschka said after the Bills' preseason finale. "It feels close to my heart because when I was 18, 19 years old, I was a soccer player and I had a dream of kicking footballs just for my Division III college team. I was fortunate enough to have an opportunity and I had a coach that showed me how to do it. "If it's something she really wants to do, not only will I help her out -- if she wants it -- but I hope she goes for it. I do think it's possible to kick well in this league as a female. It's a very mental position, it's physical, it's technical and I think it could be done eventually." Read Full Article Seriously though, I think women playing in the NFL in any capacity is unrealistic simply because of the physical aspect. I understand there are woman out there built like men but it's just different when a male kicker is getting laid out than if it's a female the target of those same hits. I can't see this happening. Can she punt ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 This is stupid, no, just no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Seven-N-Nine said: This is stupid, no, just no. What’s so stupid about this? There are female kickers in every other level of organized men’s football in this country, including college D1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Hate to say it, but there’s so many players with domestic abuse issues... I worry that some players would wear taking out the girl kicker as a badge of honor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: What’s so stupid about this? There are female kickers in every other level of organized men’s football in this country, including college D1. The kicking part is fine, getting blocked on a return not so much. Edited August 30, 2019 by Seven-N-Nine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Hey, if she can make field goals and wants to play, give her a shot. But when she gets knocked into kingdom come on a kick off return or punt block, it won’t be pretty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR8 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 The people coming out and saying she can't because she's a woman are morons... I guarantee women's can kick just as well as men in Football. Women Soccer players have insane legs, just as good as the men kicking in the NFL today. There is absolutely nothing a hypothetical woman can't do in the NFL kicking that a man can. That said Carli Lloyds's age is more of a factor than her kicking... She's at the age where men and women begin to break down physically. She is less likely to be able to sustain her success because of that. But I'm all for her trying. If women want to play and can do everything necessary, who the hell are you message board key board warriors to begrudge this woman who as an athlete has completed AND WON at the highest levels in the world. Bunch of ignorant bozos who need to move out of their moms basements... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 The dude is just trying to play a game of stink finger. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Hauschka wants to "help" Carli Lloyd? Is that what the kids are calling it these days? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Just now, MR8 said: The people coming out and saying she can't because she's a woman are morons... I guarantee women's can kick just as well as men in Football. Women Soccer players have insane legs, just as good as the men kicking in the NFL today. There is absolutely nothing a hypothetical woman can't do in the NFL kicking that a man can. That said Carli Lloyds's age is more of a factor than her kicking... She's at the age where men and women begin to break down physically. She is less likely to be able to sustain her success because of that. But I'm all for her trying. If women want to play and can do everything necessary, who the hell are you message board key board warriors to begrudge this woman who as an athlete has completed AND WON at the highest levels in the world. Bunch of ignorant bozos who need to move out of their moms basements... Ha. Ok you white knight. I don’t really see too many people saying she shouldn’t be allowed to do it. But, Are you going to be there to pick her dead carcass off the ground when she gets pulverized on a kick off return or there when she comes out of a coma when she’s knocked into the next dimension trying to tackle a KO returner next to the sideline? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I may be in the minority but I'm not ready to accept women in the nfl. now if they want to start a women's league, fine, but mixing women in to the nfl just doesn't seem right. not saying she can't kick the ball through the uprights but taking hits like this from men just doesn't bode well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyPercent Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Let her play, I'd like to see what happens on returns. And these male feminists with their "women can do anything men can do" nonsense, just LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR8 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, dubs said: Ha. Ok you white knight. I don’t really see too many people saying she shouldn’t be allowed to do it. But, Are you going to be there to pick her dead carcass off the ground when she gets pulverized on a kick off return or there when she comes out of a coma when she’s knocked into the next dimension trying to tackle a KO returner next to the sideline? Have you seen the build of most Kickers? Have you seen the build of guys like Roscoe Parrish and Darren Sproles? Dudes are TINY... Assuming because she is a woman she's gonna get blown up and knocked out, again is just ignorant and stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aireskoi Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, dubs said: Ha. Ok you white knight. I don’t really see too many people saying she shouldn’t be allowed to do it. But, Are you going to be there to pick her dead carcass off the ground when she gets pulverized on a kick off return or there when she comes out of a coma when she’s knocked into the next dimension trying to tackle a KO returner next to the sideline? Yeah right, I see girls take down armed gangs with no weapon. Girls kick guys ass now, I watch it on TV all the time. I see them punch guys clean out with one shot, so kickoff will be no problem. They might lead the team in ST tackles because they can run faster also, I'm pretty sure. Unfortunately the men have the power and will just hold them back. I live in 'like what could beeeeee's", so it's my truth. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, MR8 said: Have you seen the build of most Kickers? Have you seen the build of guys like Roscoe Parrish and Darren Sproles? Dudes are TINY... Assuming because she is a woman she's gonna get blown up and knocked out, again is just ignorant and stupid. Shes 5’7”, 141. Didn’t they teach Physics in your gender studies major? 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Just now, MR8 said: Have you seen the build of most Kickers? Have you seen the build of guys like Roscoe Parrish and Darren Sproles? Dudes are TINY... Assuming because she is a woman she's gonna get blown up and knocked out, again is just ignorant and stupid. chill out. stop with this. just because your feminine side is all worked up to see women in the nfl doesn't mean you have to go on this tirade calling people ignorant and stupid because they may not agree with your feminine side or believe women should be in the nfl. next thing you know you'll be advocating pink uniforms and helmets for christ sake. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aireskoi Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 We'll know this is coming when the NFL starts protecting kickers throughout the entire play. This is the only way it could really happen. No way they could let a female on the field without special protections added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I'm more concerned about the cost of building a washroom and separate locker room just to have her kick field goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: chill out. stop with this. just because your feminine side is all worked up to see women in the nfl doesn't mean you have to go on this tirade calling people ignorant and stupid because they may not agree with your feminine side or believe women should be in the nfl. next thing you know you'll be advocating pink uniforms and helmets for christ sake. The funny thing is, no one is really saying she shouldn’t be allowed to play. Just that even if she was good enough to kick field goals she’d be at a high risk of death because of how small she is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Can she punt ?? This is something I wondered as punters rarely get hit. I know kickers usually don’t but a kicker is more likely to take a shot than a punter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, teef said: The dude is just trying to play a game of stink finger. 2 in the pink?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, dubs said: Shes 5’7”, 141. Didn’t they teach Physics in your gender studies major? Ok so roughly Carlos Santos size, the KC kicker. 1) bet she’s in better athletic condition than any other kicker in the league 2) as a WNT striker, I’m sure she’s had her share of violent collisions, without pads. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I watched the video, what did she take, 5 steps before kicking the ball? That's blocked all day every day in an NFL game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 5 hours ago, StHustle said: Maybe a DH in MLB but again she would have to be a beast of a woman and a better slugger than the bulk of the men in the league. Maybe a finesse pitcher? Knuckleballer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Seven-N-Nine said: The kicking part is fine, getting blocked on a return not so much. Kickers in the return game....like Sebastian Janikowski? nice effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Ok so roughly Carlos Santos size, the KC kicker. 1) bet she’s in better athletic condition than any other kicker in the league 2) as a WNT striker, I’m sure she’s had her share of violent collisions, without pads. If by roughly you me 20lbs lighter, sure. Hey, I’m not saying she can’t be allowed to. I just cringe to think about seeing this poor person in a wheelchair for the rest of her life because someone like Jason Peters (remember when he played special teams) paralyzers her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 3 hours ago, CSBill said: can she punt? I would think a soccer star would be easier to make punter. And of course, we need one!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 6 hours ago, StHustle said: Seriously though, I think women playing in the NFL in any capacity is unrealistic simply because of the physical aspect. I understand there are woman out there built like men but it's just different when a male kicker is getting laid out than if it's a female the target of those same hits. I can't see this happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I know kickers don't get hit all that often, but the one time it happens to her it could legitimately end her life. Although I have thought for a while kickers should have special protections. They aren't built like football players and they aren't meant to be physical. But until that changes a woman kicking in the NFL is a terrible idea and has the potential to blow up in the league's face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I would think the opposing players would avoid contact with her at all costs , not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, FiftyPercent said: Let her play, I'd like to see what happens on returns. And these male feminists with their "women can do anything men can do" nonsense, just LOL. Yeah, because male kickers are such a force in the return game... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Troll Toll said: Hate to say it, but there’s so many players with domestic abuse issues... I worry that some players would wear taking out the girl kicker as a badge of honor. I would hope not, yet a possibility, We all read about acts of violence against women multiple times every year, and not just in the NFL. There are a lot of men in our society that are broken in this way. Sadly society as a whole does not take this issue seriously. The numbers of women beaten or killed by men in America is frankly stunning. I hope Lloyd is successful in her attempt to be a kicker in the league, but the thought of a 250lb guy putting a hit on her while she is holding the ball after a fumbled snap is a little bit frightening to say the least. Go Bills!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Shes obviously a long shot, but I have no issue with her trying. If someone wants to put in the time to help her, then I'm all for that too. Everyone who says women can't do things men can do is just lazy and ignorant to what happens everyday. I have a friend who is great looking girl, super sweet and smart, could do literally any job in the world. I was surprised when she said she wanted to join the army. Talked to her a few weeks ago. She is the fastest women and 4th fastest soldier in her unit for PT training(cant remember the terms she used), she has the highest marksmanship of her unit and is leading a group of soldiers in army intel. People earn spots based on their merit. If Carli Llyod is good enough at kicking a football to be on a team, she should be on a team. Shes not stupid, she would be well aware of the risks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritBill Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 34 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: I would think a soccer star would be easier to make punter. And of course, we need one!!! I reckon a goalkeeper could. Has the natural timing for kicking a ball out of their hands. Much like with Wade though, they'll have natural tendencies built up over years of playing a different sport which will hinder them. Most top level 'keepers tend to have a slightly side on approach to kicking the ball from their hands. Some of the old 1980's style goalkeepers who kicked the ball straight on would have made a good fist of punting! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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