T master Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I think the Bills are set at the back up QB position & i wouldn't be afraid to have Barkley at the helm if heaven forbid something should happen to Josh that he had to be out part or all of a season due to injury which is a really good thing for the Bills because there hasn't been this good of a back up QB on the roster in quite a while . There are teams that are in as good of situation as the Bills are when it comes to this position on their teams but then there are others that are not such as the Colts now. I was wondering what Bills mafia would think if Frank comes knocking on Beanes door & wants to give up a draft pick to get Barkley because he has been playing so well . Would you have Beane pull the trigger on something like that ? And if so what would they have to give in return to get him ? I have read articles that the Colts are looking around for other QB's & i'm not sure if that is because Frank isn't completely settled on Brisset as his Mr. Right now or if he isn't comfortable with what he has as his back up Chad Kelly due to his immaturity seeing as he has been suspended 2 games again this season & given his past ! Either way if he was to go fishing around Buffalo due to his relationship with the franchise would you all be willing to give up that security blanket of having Barkley & if not how much would it cost them to pry him away from the team ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 The Colts had 4 good QBs a week ago, and one of them was getting cut. Now they keep all 3. The only QB they would want right now would be a guy like Eli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 No. Backup quarterback is a position teams use mid round draft picks, and pay good money to try and solidify. Lets just keep our good backup and keep that safe feeling. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Is there anyone left Reich has a relationship with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 No, QB is the most important position and you don't trade away a quality backup. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflabillsfan1 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Trade Barkley? Ah no, that's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, T master said: I think the Bills are set at the back up QB position & i wouldn't be afraid to have Barkley at the helm if heaven forbid something should happen to Josh that he had to be out part or all of a season due to injury which is a really good thing for the Bills because there hasn't been this good of a back up QB on the roster in quite a while . There are teams that are in as good of situation as the Bills are when it comes to this position on their teams but then there are others that are not such as the Colts now. I was wondering what Bills mafia would think if Frank comes knocking on Beanes door & wants to give up a draft pick to get Barkley because he has been playing so well . Would you have Beane pull the trigger on something like that ? And if so what would they have to give in return to get him ? I have read articles that the Colts are looking around for other QB's & i'm not sure if that is because Frank isn't completely settled on Brisset as his Mr. Right now or if he isn't comfortable with what he has as his back up Chad Kelly due to his immaturity seeing as he has been suspended 2 games again this season & given his past ! Either way if he was to go fishing around Buffalo due to his relationship with the franchise would you all be willing to give up that security blanket of having Barkley & if not how much would it cost them to pry him away from the team ? You realize Barkley is playing well in preseason against 2nd and 3rd stringers, right? Not regular season against starters with a game plan. He looks good, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 not a bad topic, but the return would have to be amazing. Like one of their backup QB's plus a 2nd or 1st. Otherwise, you keep that security blanket. Esp. with a QB like Allen who likes to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I think the reasons we moved mccarron were A - He was outplayed by peterman, and allen was probably a bit ahead of where they thought he would be B - The offer was good C - He's kinda... not good. Now Peterman was a disaster and it forced Allen in - and we were forced to make all sorts of weird moves to eventually move on from Peterman mid-season. Absolute botch job there... But i honestly don't think we would have won more games with McCarron starting. I can't make the same call with Barkley. He won his only game here last year, has been a professional, and has owned his role without taking 1st team reps. It's kind of everything you want in a backup. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) That's a big no for me. As a matter of fact if I were beans, Barkley would be signed long term and I'd make him the highest paid back up. Edited August 29, 2019 by billsredneck1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: That's a big no for me. As a matter of fact if I were beans, Barkley would be signed long term and I'd make him the highest paid back up. Maybe put him up on the Wall right now too? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I doubt that the Colts would even contact the Bills about Barkley. They have to know he's not for sale. If they are shopping, and I'm not sure they are, there are other places they might go to try and pry a halfway decent backup QB loose. For the Bills part, Barkley is far more valuable to them than the price they are paying for his services. I can't even imagine what they would think is fair compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Are we forgetting about the role Barkley is playing in Josh's development? That would be a stupid move that I know Beane wouldn't make. We have a GREAT situation right now. Why roll the dice on taking a lesser backup who can't teach Josh ish or maybe even be a cancer...and what? A draft pick? Josh's development is the whole key to the success of this franchise right now. You don't play around with that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, StHustle said: Are we forgetting about the role Barkley is playing in Josh's development? That would be a stupid move that I know Beane wouldn't make. We have a GREAT situation right now. Why roll the dice on taking a lesser backup who can't teach Josh ish or maybe even be a cancer...and what? A draft pick? Josh's development is the whole key to the success of this franchise right now. You don't play around with that. Great? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 The Colts have Matt Cassell and Brandon Wheeden in for tryouts. QB problem solved. 5 minutes ago, nucci said: Great? He's a mentor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, klos63 said: The Colts have Matt Cassell and Brandon Wheeden in for tryouts. QB problem solved. He's a mentor. ans Osweiller..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 48 minutes ago, nucci said: Is there anyone left Reich has a relationship with? Jayzus. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Not a bad topic but a draft pick does nothing to help this team this year. If Barkley never takes a snap all year it means Allen is healthy and playing well. I'm fine with that. If Barkley has to play he looks competent but who really knows. If Allen gets hurt and misses a game or two but shows us he is the franchise QB in the games he plays, and Barkley plays well in relief, maybe trade him for ab asset in the off-season. But at this point Barkley in almost every scenario is more valuable on the Bills roster than anything they would get in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 55 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: The Colts had 4 good QBs a week ago, and one of them was getting cut. Now they keep all 3. The only QB they would want right now would be a guy like Eli. The Colts had just 1 good QB a week ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 40 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: That's a big no for me. As a matter of fact if I were beans, Barkley would be signed long term and I'd make him the highest paid back up. He's signed through 2020 currently. If everything goes well with Allen, I'd probably extend him beyond next season. 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Not a bad topic but a draft pick does nothing to help this team this year. If Barkley never takes a snap all year it means Allen is healthy and playing well. I'm fine with that. If Barkley has to play he looks competent but who really knows. If Allen gets hurt and misses a game or two but shows us he is the franchise QB in the games he plays, and Barkley plays well in relief, maybe trade him for ab asset in the off-season. But at this point Barkley in almost every scenario is more valuable on the Bills roster than anything they would get in return. I'm not messing around with QB. Allen's gotta be the guy... but Peterman and derek anderson started games for this team last year and were both absolutely stinking awful. That's the state of backup QBs around the league. You find a guy you can trust, keep him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 57 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: The Colts had 4 good QBs a week ago, and one of them was getting cut. Now they keep all 3. The only QB they would want right now would be a guy like Eli. I in no way want Rivers to get hurt. But IF he did, it would be hilarious if Eli ended his career with the Chargers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 minute ago, 416BillsFan said: I in no way want Rivers to get hurt. But IF he did, it would be hilarious if Eli ended his career with the Chargers. They would roll with taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 58 minutes ago, klos63 said: You realize Barkley is playing well in preseason against 2nd and 3rd stringers, right? Not regular season against starters with a game plan. He looks good, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. He's also playing WITH 2nd and 3rd stringers and without a game plan. That's like saying "Well if you take out these lucky couple plays he had his game wasn't THAT good", without also eliminating his two worst or unlucky plays. You can't do that and have a logical argument. It's bending reality to fabricate a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I just don't see any possible way we would trade Barkley. They would never offer a high enough pick and we don't have another option on the roster to fill the role. We aren't disrupting our sound situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: He's also playing WITH 2nd and 3rd stringers and without a game plan. That's like saying "Well if you take out these lucky couple plays he had his game wasn't THAT good", without also eliminating his two worst or unlucky plays. You can't do that and have a logical argument. It's bending reality to fabricate a point. First point is true- most people in the game might not even be in the league in one week, yet that somehow is a gauge on how he will perform in a regular season game. Second point is so wrong . It's not even remotely close to saying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Definitely not trading Barkley. I think he is more of an asset to this team than just your average backup QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, White Linen said: I just don't see any possible way we would trade Barkley. They would never offer a high enough pick and we don't have another option on the roster to fill the role. We aren't disrupting our sound situation. ...I agree...and erased Hamdan and Nall from speed dial................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...I agree...and erased Hamdan and Nall from speed dial................. The Chroise!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...I agree...and erased Hamdan and Nall from speed dial................. Hamdan and Nall? Yikes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said: The Colts had 4 good QBs a week ago, and one of them was getting cut. Now they keep all 3. The only QB they would want right now would be a guy like Eli. I hope they trade for Eli, it would be surreal to see a Manning on the field in a Colts jersey again. The team is “built to win now”, and just imagine, Eli has a “Warner-esque” resurgence, and goes on to win a 3rd SB ring, topping his superior older brother, with the franchise where Peyton built his legacy... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 When someone wants to trade a 1st ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 He's a much more valuable asset being our #2 qb vs acquiring a 6th rounder, which is all you could realistically hope for with a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 hours ago, billsredneck1 said: That's a big no for me. As a matter of fact if I were beans, Barkley would be signed long term and I'd make him the highest paid back up. Someday the Bills will look back at Barkley's signing and say "we hit a homerun here"....he's going nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 You have to keep in mind, too, that with cutdowns looming, some QB's will be out there, dangling on the waiver wire. Reich will do his due diligence on them, and maybe pluck one to backup or replace Brissett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, billsredneck1 said: That's a big no for me. As a matter of fact if I were beans, Barkley would be signed long term and I'd make him the highest paid back up. Yup, he's so good he's played in 12 games over a 6 year span. He's had 2 good games in his career and has played well this preseason, but he shouldn't be the highest paid back up QB, that's bad money management. He doesn't have an arm and floats long passes, which will work playing 2nd & 3rd string players who don't game plan for ya. JMO. Edited August 30, 2019 by LOVEMESOMEBILLS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Would I trade Barkley. Of course, depending on the compensation. He looks like a capable backup at this point. He's made four touchdown passes that I thought were really quite good throws (regardless of the competition). Two to Duke, one to Perry and one to Philips. I'd trade him for Jacobi Brissett tho. More upside IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 The use of not one but two (!!) exclamation points in the thread title was a warning sign but I click anyway. Shame on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 What do you think teams are going to give for a qb with a 67 career qb rating who was sitting in the couch 7 weeks into last season? Barkley has no trade value unless a stupid team actually puts stock into preseason games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 hours ago, nucci said: Great? Relatively speaking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_believer Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 It wouldn't make sense for the Bills or the Colts. A backup QB is pretty valuable, so the Bills would have to go out and get one after trading Barkley. Barkley seems like a nice fit for the Bills. From the Colts perspective, Barkley doing well in the preseason is hardly a predictor of franchise QB type success. There will be some interesting names out there after the cuts, if they want to take a chance on someone. They probably would be best off struggling through this season and drafting someone next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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