HOUSE Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) Yahoo! Sports Can Wade make the Bills’ roster? By Matt Warren Aug 18, 2019, 11:45am EDT Christian Wade has taken over the NFL highlight reels in his first two games playing professional football. The Buffalo Bills were assigned Wade as part of the NFL’s International Pathway Program, and with that come some roster limitations. With the rumors flying around and his strong play, we felt the need to clarify. Wade scored a 65-yard touchdown on his first NFL carry in Week 1 of the preseason against the Indianapolis Colts. The second time he touched the ball was the following week against the Carolina Panthers, where he took a Tyree Jackson swing pass 48 yards to the goal line. Needless to say, folks were pumped. So much so that they suggested Wade might be on the 53-man roster. Let’s set aside the subjective for now and discuss the actual roster limitations of the International Pathway Program. Wade left Wasps RFC in October of 2018 in preparation for the move to the NFL. As a member of the program, Buffalo gets an extra spot for Wade on their offseason roster. They also receive an extra spot on the practice squad during the season for Wade, but once he’s on the practice squad he can’t be promoted to the active roster. There is some gray area here, though.(open link) https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/8/18/20810950/clarifying-the-buffalo-bills-roster-status-with-running-back-christian-wade Edited August 18, 2019 by HOUSE 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 What is the grey area? Don't leave us hanging.:) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Turk71 said: What is the grey area? Don't leave us hanging.:) Click the link. The original poster did the right thing providing the link and not stealing the author's work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, scribo said: Click the link. The original poster did the right thing providing the link and not stealing the author's work. Will do when I get the chance. I was just kidding around. Edited August 18, 2019 by Turk71 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 OK - not being a legal expert, it sounds like Wade could be retained if on the active roster. Or he can be retained on the PS, but in a way that prevents him from being activated during this season. What about next season? Also, I would assume he would be protected while on the PS from being acquired by another team (one would think that kind of move would be blocked or it would turn into a meaningless paper shuffle as teams could not promote him to active roster). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Turk71 said: What is the grey area? Don't leave us hanging.:) I don't know about the Grey area but I do know about the grey goo scenario. https://science.howstuffworks.com/gray-goo.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 minute ago, WideNine said: OK - not being a legal expert, it sounds like Wade could be retained if on the active roster. Or he can be retained on the PS, but in a way that prevents him from being activated during this season. What about next season? Also, I would assume he would be protected while on the PS from being acquired by another team (one would think that kind of move would be blocked or it would turn into a meaningless paper shuffle as teams could not promote him to active roster). If he makes it to the PS, I think he's safe. Another team can't promote him to their 53. I think he'll clear waivers and be on the Bills' PS until next year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 OK the linky did the trick - don't like the waiver gamble. Seems the grey areas is what happens if they promote him to active squad then later demote him to PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 18, 2019 Author Share Posted August 18, 2019 There are always special situations almost every year. If Beane feels strongly about protecting a player, I believe he will do it. We shall see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Likely just hangs on the practice squad. Which is where he should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, WideNine said: OK - not being a legal expert, it sounds like Wade could be retained if on the active roster. Or he can be retained on the PS, but in a way that prevents him from being activated during this season. What about next season? Also, I would assume he would be protected while on the PS from being acquired by another team (one would think that kind of move would be blocked or it would turn into a meaningless paper shuffle as teams could not promote him to active roster). Yes he can be placed on an active roster but he counts against the final 53 Yes he can be stashed on the PS and he is untouchable for the full season but he also can not be called up for the season. Next year he is a basically a FA trying to make the team and he can no longer be protected. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Can Wade make the Bills’ roster? By Matt Warren Aug 18, 2019, 11:45am EDT Share All sharing options Christian Wade has taken over the NFL highlight reels in his first two games playing professional football. The Buffalo Bills were assigned Wade as part of the NFL’s International Pathway Program, and with that come some roster limitations. With the rumors flying around and his strong play, we felt the need to clarify. Wade scored a 65-yard touchdown on his first NFL carry in Week 1 of the preseason against the Indianapolis Colts. The second time he touched the ball was the following week against the Carolina Panthers, where he took a Tyree Jackson swing pass 48 yards to the goal line. Needless to say, folks were pumped. So much so that they suggested Wade might be on the 53-man roster. Let’s set aside the subjective for now and discuss the actual roster limitations of the International Pathway Program. Wade left Wasps RFC in October of 2018 in preparation for the move to the NFL. As a member of the program, Buffalo gets an extra spot for Wade on their offseason roster. They also receive an extra spot on the practice squad during the season for Wade, but once he’s on the practice squad he can’t be promoted to the active roster. There is some gray area here, though. Christian Wade is not going to make the Buffalo Bills roster. Point blank. Period. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/8/18/20810950/clarifying-the-buffalo-bills-roster-status-with-running-back-christian-wade He won’t make the final 53 but he’s a lock for the PS considering that they get a free spot for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 So according to this he will need to pass through waivers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 That article has at least one minor mistake, one omission, and doesn't clear up a big question. And reports an opinion as fact. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 What I don't get is why they haven't been trying him out as a punt returner. And, to my knowledge, he hasn't been playing special teams, either. There's no way they keep an RB4 on the main roster who can't play special teams. Even if they did, it would be Yeldon. I like Wade and I'm enjoying his story as much as the next fan, but he needs to be on the practice squad at best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 My summary: The Bills have a roster exemption now for Wade. They CAN add him to the 53 man roster where he would count against the roster limit. If they waive him in the cutdown to 53, any other team can sign him to their 53 man roster. If he clears waivers, the Bills can put him on the Practice Squad and receive an exemption for him there (he does not count against the practice squad limit of 10. Once placed on the Bills' practice squad he CANNOT be signed to anybody's 53 man roster, including the Bills. If he makes somebody's 53 man roster and later gets cut, he can be signed to anybody's practice squad. The gray area covers that last scenario and the Bills are the team that signs him to their practice squad after being on somebody's 53 man roster. It is unknown whether or not Buffalo would be a practice squad exemption for him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 This is rather concerning. After what Wade has put on tape, it wouldn't be entirely shocking if some other team picks him up on waivers. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) So you cant add him to the active roster.... But if a team tries to sign him off our practice squad can we add him to our active roster then? Edited August 18, 2019 by Kmart128 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 It appears the author is not fully certain on some details either. I have read several conflicting accounts to include this one. Wouldn’t you think the Bills or the NFL would spend a moment to post the regulations concerning pathway system? Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 No chance he makes the roster and no chance another team claims him. He’ll be on the PS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 18, 2019 Author Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: So according to this he will need to pass through waivers. Likely landing spot would be Jacksonville where the head coach thinks he is a genius. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) It's probably a good thing i'm not the GM because i'd put Wade on the active roster & boot Yeldon & Perry off the roster instead. Wade has done far more with his limited opportunities than those 2 have. Not to mention not making the mistakes those 2 other "more experienced" players have made. As a coach you ask your players to do their best & so far Wade has just looked better. I'd be tempted to find a spot for him in the backfield & try him in the return game like others have suggested. Won't happen of course but thats what i'd do Edited August 18, 2019 by brianthomas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Just now, HOUSE said: Likely landing spot would be Jacksonville where the head coach thinks he is a genius. JMO Marrone thinks Christian Wade is a genius? Link? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 would hate to lose him. the kid has some talent and can be explosive. you can say rb's are a dime a dozen, which is pretty much true. losing him to another team is possible I just hope it isn't the stinking patsies**. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: No chance he makes the roster and no chance another team claims him. He’ll be on the PS What happens if they play him in games 3 or 4 and he breaks off another 50+ yard play? I have to believe a team would claim him. Perhaps Wade is too green and that's why we haven't seen him on ST or getting touches with the ones or twos. Perhaps McD is trying to stash him and we won't see much of him again. Edited August 18, 2019 by VW82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradobillsfan Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, TigerJ said: If he clears waivers, the Bills can put him on the Practice Squad and receive an exemption for him there (he does not count against the practice squad limit of 10. Once placed on the Bills' practice squad he CANNOT be signed to anybody's 53 man roster, including the Bills. He does not need to clear waivers. "International Player Pathway Program FAQ: Wont cutting him to put him on the Practice Squad expose him to waivers? Through the IPPP we will not expose him to waivers and we will have him on our practice squad as the 11th man." 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 18, 2019 Author Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Marrone thinks Christian Wade is a genius? Link? Marrone is the kind of coach willing to gamble. Oakland is the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, coloradobillsfan said: He does not need to clear waivers. "International Player Pathway Program FAQ: Wont cutting him to put him on the Practice Squad expose him to waivers? Through the IPPP we will not expose him to waivers and we will have him on our practice squad as the 11th man." Do you have a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: So you cant add him to the active roster.... But if a team tries to sign him off our practice squad can we add him to our active roster then? He can't be added to anybody's active roster if Buffalo puts him on their PS as the 11th player. At least that's my understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Marrone is the kind of coach willing to gamble. Oakland is the same way. I'd love to see the kid get scooped up. Would be a great story for the NFL. Frankly, I'd love for the Bills to keep him right on the 53 and go into the season with Gore, Singletary and Wade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 It's an awesome story But like the article said at the end... He isn't going to make the team He just has to learn wayyyy to many nuances. He has a shot next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) @HOUSE Valiant attempt but from what I have encountered in the other posts trying to explain this it’s futile. 1. Wade can make the 53 2. Wade can make the PS as the 11th and protected player (can’t be claimed) 3. If Wade makes the PS he becomes an UFA in 2020 Or simply 4. Wade can be cut where he can be claimed off of waivers and the Pats will steal him And yes I’m sure I missed some minutiae Edited August 18, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 18, 2019 Author Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: @HOUSE Valiant attempt but from what I have encountered in the other posts trying to explain this it’s futile. If Wade breaks another long run, all bets are off .. Edited August 18, 2019 by HOUSE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, HOUSE said: If Wade breaks another long run, all bets are off .. Imo hes earned a look in games vs better defenders. Put him in with Barkley. Give him 3 to 4 plays. He continues to make plays he might earn a package for the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, ddaryl said: Yes he can be placed on an active roster but he counts against the final 53 Yes he can be stashed on the PS and he is untouchable for the full season but he also can not be called up for the season. Next year he is a basically a FA trying to make the team and he can no longer be protected. Lets see, $10K per week on PS...times 16 games. I wonder if that compares to what he made as a rugby pro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 31 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: @HOUSE Valiant attempt but from what I have encountered in the other posts trying to explain this it’s futile. 1. Wade can make the 53 2. Wade can make the PS as the 11th and protected player (can’t be claimed) 3. If Wade makes the PS he becomes an UFA in 2020 Or simply 4. Wade can be cut where he can be claimed off of waivers and the Pats will steal him And yes I’m sure I missed some minutiae We still haven't figured out if Terry Pegula can own the Bills and the Sabres. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) What’s far more important is answering the burning question , can an NFL team owner also own another sports franchise at the same time? Edited August 18, 2019 by Nanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 What really screws this up is having two 30+ year old backs on the team for only this year. Do we really need 2 veteran players like that? Pick the one you want to mentor the room then get some youth and speed on the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradobillsfan Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, VW82 said: Do you have a link? it's a pinned post on https://www.reddit.com/r/buffalobills/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 hours ago, scribo said: Click the link. The original poster did the right thing providing the link and not stealing the author's work. He very much could’ve given the relevant info and linked for more instead of a multi paragraph teaser. In fact he likely included enough to violate terms, while still not sharing the info. Worst of both worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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