Punching Bag Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 5 hours ago, Logic said: Wish him all the best. Oh, and while I'm here: Gruden is going to run the Raiders into the ground and they're going to be getting rid of him AND Mayock within the next three years, after which time a full bottoming out and rebuild will be necessary. Dark times ahead for the Raiders. I mean...did you SEE the three players they take with their three first round picks? Yikes. I like Gruden and Mayock a lot and I'm actually rooting for them. I hope I'm wrong about them in this instance, but I don't think I am. 10 year contract, no way will the owner burn that much money for he does not have it. On original subject I hope Ritchie does well but if he picks up Gruden when he says something stupid that is okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 14 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...arugala??...... The bowl is without salad and EMPTY until you put it on his head. Some might argue it would still be empty, because his head is empty, but I’ll leave that to the great philosophers to ponder.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Must have run out of money for more cuckoo puffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 I think of Incognito as a talented but troubled person. I hope he does whatever will help him prepare for the rest of his life, to be a good person in society. He has some work to do and I hope he does it. He might have been a little crazy when he was with the Bills the second time, but he was a great player and a great teammate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Augie said: Once you have the salad bowl and the yard shears, how much could THAT cost? Pride. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 22 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Pride. Due to some genetic defect, he seems to have been born with his “pride tank” on empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 That is one dude who probably should not bash his head in anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Good luck Richie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 6 hours ago, napmaster said: I thought Kansas City Cleveland was the new bad boys destination. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I'm hoping for the best for the guy but after what happened last year I can't see how inviting additional head injuries is a good idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: On some level, it feels like if he’s working s program and was gone a full year I’d think the Nfl should consider it largely time served.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallions Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Real McCoy said: Good luck Richie! I hope has himself together and can pull this off! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 8 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Ah... The NFL Where every one gets a 5th chance.. . Except for Tebow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 And I was and still am of the opinion he was really missed last year, big time. And forget my opinion, ask Shady. But with all the Oline signings this offeseason and the draft? And his mental issues? Yep, water on the bridge now. I still wish him well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 48 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: Except for Tebow. And all he ever did was ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Augie said: Once you have the salad bowl and the yard shears, how much could THAT cost? There was an article awhile back that says he flys to FL every so often to get that haircut from a guy he "trusts". The money he wastes on that do would be better spent hanging with Kraft in FL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 As long as he has football in his life he has structure and seems to do OK then. So likely through any practices, OTA, camp, etc, he'll likely do well, as well as 36 YO who hasn't played in a year can do I should preface that with. But if he gets cut, then all bets are off, and likely he'll even realize then at 36 he's done. Time to get the kids off the streets and hide the guns and women as who knows what may happen next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I didn't like the move for the Bills to grant him his realease, and I like it even less now that he's probably signing with the raiders. You don't positively reinforce negative behavior. It incentivizes more negative behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, Heavy Kevi said: I didn't like the move for the Bills to grant him his realease, and I like it even less now that he's probably signing with the raiders. You don't positively reinforce negative behavior. It incentivizes more negative behavior. At a certain point in time you realize he’s a guy not fit to be on your team. I have no problem cutting him if that is clear. He wasn’t just disgruntled about the contract. It appears he was unstable. I’d find the man emotional support, but not waste a roster spot or cap space if he’s not up to it. That hurts the team. Bottom line: we don’t have enough information here on our couches to decide what should have been done. I’ll trust the FO. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Just now, Augie said: At a certain point in time you realize he’s a guy not fit to be on your team. I have no problem cutting him if that is clear. He wasn’t just disgruntled about the contract. It appears he was unstable. I’d find the man emotional support, but not waste a roster spot or cap space if he’s not up to it. That hurts the team. Bottom line: we don’t have enough information here on our couches to decide what should have been done. I’ll trust the FO. Agreed. The Bills are not parents. The job of the front office and coaching staff is to do what's best for the team. Their job does not entail teaching lessons at the expense of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 4 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: I missed the part in my post where I claimed to be holier than thou. Please enlighten me. Was it the NFL/ 5th chance part? What part of that sentence isn't true? Did I strike a nerve? If so, my apologies. I did wish he gets his life in order and not once did I state loser, headcase, degenerate or any of the sort. And though you don't know me it goes without saying, Ive got plenty of sin. Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KD in CA Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 39 minutes ago, Heavy Kevi said: I didn't like the move for the Bills to grant him his realease, and I like it even less now that he's probably signing with the raiders. You don't positively reinforce negative behavior. It incentivizes more negative behavior. So you want the Bills to teach him a lesson by not releasing him? That’s oddly spiteful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 3 hours ago, mattynh said: That is one dude who probably should not bash his head in anymore Seriously. This is a terrible idea for all involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 What’s this about Incognito? I can’t recognize him. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Richie Incognito leaves Raiders without a deal https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/05/06/richie-incognito-leaves-raiders-without-a-deal/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Richie Incognito leaves Raiders without a deal https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/05/06/richie-incognito-leaves-raiders-without-a-deal/ On a related note, I hear extra security has been scheduled for the Gruden home. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Augie said: On a related note, I hear extra security has been scheduled for the Gruden home. And price of straws has gone up as detractors by them to shoot spit balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Richard is in need of serious help. You don't just get better. This will not end well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) Hell yeah, ! We screwed Ritchie over by reducing his salary when he was playing at a high level, then didn't try to help him when he was clearly spiraling. they thought we could get by with those chumps last year but realized made a huge mistake by not bringing in quality replacements. Hopefully the new ones are better. with the proper help Ritchie should have a couple good years left. 13 hours ago, teef said: Uh oh. i really appreciate Ritchie and his time here, but the entire wanting to leave a funeral home with his father’s head just has me thinking this isn’t a great idea. sounds like the perfect Olineman Edited May 7, 2019 by Buffalo Barbarian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I'm not speaking as an expert by any means but I have worked in a psych hospital for 7 years and the people making light of his mental illness have no idea what he might be dealing with and in general making fun of someone with mental health issues is pretty low rent. Some people can get back to baseline when they are doing what they know and what they excel at, in this case it is football for Richie. He gets a sense of purpose out of this and clearly when he is not around the game he struggles. I truly wish him the best, and I have seen people genuinely get better where I work, so there is definitely hope for Richie in the future after football. I am not trying to sound preachy by any means, I have just seen how mental health issues can ravage someones life and the life of their family, and I think people should have more compassion for individuals who struggle with mental health. Go Bills. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Augie said: On a related note, I hear extra security has been scheduled for the Gruden home. ....not to worry!...the Mark Davis statute out front will scare ANYBODY away....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Just Snap Baby! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 10 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: We screwed Ritchie over by reducing his salary when he was playing at a high level, then didn't try to help him when he was clearly spiraling. they thought we could get by with those chumps last year but realized made a huge mistake by not bringing in quality replacements. Hopefully the new ones are better. with the proper help Ritchie should have a couple good years left. I do not think he was "screwed" - he had a choice to either accept proposed new contract, have agent propose alternate or reject it and be a free agent. I do think he will have a few good years left in right system both football and support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 22 hours ago, NoSaint said: Define issues? I don’t think mine overlap his much and I might appreciate a separate category I did say bat **** crazy. Personally I believe we should all keep our respective issues incognito. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, Limeaid said: I do not think he was "screwed" - he had a choice to either accept proposed new contract, have agent propose alternate or reject it and be a free agent. Yep. And the Bills were ready to for him to move on because you don’t offer a guy a pay cut without planning for him to say “no” and having to cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 It’s hilarious how many Bills fans give this guy a pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: It’s hilarious how many Bills fans give this guy a pass. Agreed. The guy played here two years, but we've got fans "pulling for him" and "hoping he gets another shot." it's comical. The guy has been a douchenozzle for pretty much his entire adult life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, eball said: Agreed. The guy played here two years, but we've got fans "pulling for him" and "hoping he gets another shot." it's comical. The guy has been a douchenozzle for pretty much his entire adult life. Wow, it’s like old times! We agree! And this is the problem with guys like RI, Chad Kelly, Pac-Man Jones, etc. they get enabled their whole life because they can play football. While a routine is probably great for him, is slamming his head for another season good for him long term? This guy needs mental health yet fans always make excuses for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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