without a drought Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdand12 said: he accepted the contract He was under a bit of duress at the time... you know with the whole failing organ thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 (edited) On 5/6/2019 at 7:38 PM, LSHMEAB said: Agreed. The Bills are not parents. The job of the front office and coaching staff is to do what's best for the team. Their job does not entail teaching lessons at the expense of the team. Except for the fact Richie made the team better. Seriously... This was a WTF by Beane. In case YOU cant read that says franchise record and Shady gave the ball to Richie. The year when Richie was gone, So was Shady, basically. 8 minutes ago, without a drought said: He was under a bit of duress at the time... you know with the whole failing organ thing. Before: Franchise record. After: Ghost of Shady. I liked it BEFORE BEANE fudged things up. TEAM WAS BETTER WITH RICHIE, AND BEANE FUDGED UP, PERIOD. JA WAS HURT BECAUSE OF IT. Edited May 29, 2019 by Paulus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, Paulus said: Except for the fact Richie made the team better. Seriously... This was a WTF by Beane. In case YOU cant read that says franchise record and Shady gave the ball to Richie. The year when Richie was gone, So was Shady, basically. Before: Franchise record. After: Ghost of Shady. I liked it BEFORE BEANE fudged things up. TEAM WAS BETTER WITH RICHIE, AND BEANE FUDGED UP, PERIOD. JA WAS HURT BECAUSE OF IT. Well, I don’t think beane made him insane. And I don’t even mean that as a joke or derogatory. Dude was legitimately unwell. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Yeah. I can read. Incognito was a force for the Bills, but his play was slipping. He signed the renegotiated contract. Had Beane capitulated and renegotiated a renegotiated contract, he would have lost all credibility and leverage in future negotiations. If RI felt disrespected, he should have told Beane to beat when asked to take a pay cut. He did no such thing. I'm also skeptical of the premise that his entire mental breakdown was the result of a contract. I don't buy it. Having said that, I'm extremely sympathetic to his plight and wish him nothing but the best. He's got some real demons and I hope he's able to get it all sorted out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Too late now, and thankfully the OL should be way better this year. But I too can't understand why it was RI, of all 53 players, that got a paycut when he was MONEY for Shady and the Bills. He was a main reason in the playoff run, no less. His insanity seemed controlled while playing with the Bills and off the rails after, but yeah, not sure he should still be vanging heads in pro football... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Paulus said: No Beane burnt the goodwill by being cheap. Important to remember that he signed the deal, then backed out and forced the Bills to list him as retired after not showing up for workouts. This is a guy whose career (and life, quite possibly) the Buffalo Bills resurrected, then he snakes his way out as if they hadn't just offered him a deal that would have put him in the top 25 guards today, salary-wise. And EVEN AFTER ALL THAT they still obliged him by taking him off the retired list so he could be an UFA, at which point he starts Twitter-baiting other potential teams while taking shots at the Bills...all while apparently suffering from liver and kidney failure that must have miraculously healed. Loved him while he was here, but he went out with a whimper and I don't like former Bills making a mess on their way out. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Paulus said: Except for the fact Richie made the team better. Seriously... This was a WTF by Beane. In case YOU cant read that says franchise record and Shady gave the ball to Richie. The year when Richie was gone, So was Shady, basically. Before: Franchise record. After: Ghost of Shady. I liked it BEFORE BEANE fudged things up. TEAM WAS BETTER WITH RICHIE, AND BEANE FUDGED UP, PERIOD. JA WAS HURT BECAUSE OF IT. I've been one of the ones more critical of Beane. I think some would see that, but I don't think this post makes any sense. Richie is wacked. He did it to himself. Beane saved cap money in that contract agreement. Richie lost it as he has always periodically done. I can't blame Beane for this. I don't see how anyone could. I'd wish Richie the best, but he's got like 34 years of proving he's an #######. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: Well, I don’t think beane made him insane. And I don’t even mean that as a joke or derogatory. Dude was legitimately unwell. One year Franchise Record... Next year ghost of Shady... Not rocket science, guys... 15 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Important to remember that he signed the deal, then backed out and forced the Bills to list him as retired after not showing up for workouts. This is a guy whose career (and life, quite possibly) the Buffalo Bills resurrected, then he snakes his way out as if they hadn't just offered him a deal that would have put him in the top 25 guards today, salary-wise. And EVEN AFTER ALL THAT they still obliged him by taking him off the retired list so he could be an UFA, at which point he starts Twitter-baiting other potential teams while taking shots at the Bills...all while apparently suffering from liver and kidney failure that must have miraculously healed. Loved him while he was here, but he went out with a whimper and I don't like former Bills making a mess on their way out. 11 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: I've been one of the ones more critical of Beane. I think some would see that, but I don't think this post makes any sense. Richie is wacked. He did it to himself. Beane saved cap money in that contract agreement. Richie lost it as he has always periodically done. I can't blame Beane for this. I don't see how anyone could. I'd wish Richie the best, but he's got like 34 years of proving he's an #######. See above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, Paulus said: One year Franchise Record... Next year ghost of Shady... Not rocket science, guys... See above. I'm glad we set a franchise record in rushing TDs when it has became the wrong way to build an offense. Idk why I'm even wasting my time. Richie at his age isn't making or breaking us. Maybe if he was 24 I'd agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Paulus said: One year Franchise Record... Next year ghost of Shady... Not rocket science, guys... See above. No doubt he contributed to the run game. He also contributed to a very anemic passing offense. And are you just forgetting about 2017? Hardly a run game to brag about...pretty sure he was on that unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, GoBills808 said: No doubt he contributed to the run game. He also contributed to a very anemic passing offense. And are you just forgetting about 2017? Hardly a run game to brag about...pretty sure he was on that unit. What QB did we have in 2017? Honestly, it was so bad I forgot. I am not even going to try and remember. I do think JA would have been better had we kept Richie. 12 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: I'm glad we set a franchise record in rushing TDs when it has became the wrong way to build an offense. Idk why I'm even wasting my time. Richie at his age isn't making or breaking us. Maybe if he was 24 I'd agree. What was the QB situation like in 2017? Not Josh Allen. Also, Richie was a good pass blocker, wth are you guys smoking? Imagine JA if we actually had a run game. Do you guys even football? Edited May 29, 2019 by Paulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 14 hours ago, Paulus said: The year when Richie was gone, So was Shady, basically. Before: Franchise record. After: Ghost of Shady. Pretty superficial analysis of the offensive problems post-Richie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Pretty superficial analysis of the offensive problems post-Richie... Still a fair point, though. It's hard to argue that the collapse of our O-line wasn't a primary factor in the collapse of our run game. And RI was surely a big part of that, along with the departure of Wood. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Just now, Rocky Landing said: Still a fair point, though. It's hard to argue that the collapse of our O-line wasn't a primary factor in the collapse of our run game. And RI was surely a big part of that, along with the departure of Wood. I am not disputing the fact that the O-line was worse without Richie; however, the offense was not very good in 2017 while he was here. There were a number of factors as to why the offense was so bad after Richie left. To think they would have been appreciably better with Richie is not an objective evaluation of the offense as a whole, IMO. Richie's play had diminished when he left and, to blame Beane for the circumstances under which Richie left is a bit unfair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 44 minutes ago, Paulus said: What QB did we have in 2017? Honestly, it was so bad I forgot. I am not even going to try and remember. I do think JA would have been better had we kept Richie. What was the QB situation like in 2017? Not Josh Allen. Also, Richie was a good pass blocker, wth are you guys smoking? Imagine JA if we actually had a run game. Do you guys even football? Do you even lift bro? ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 (edited) On 5/6/2019 at 10:19 AM, WhickedWilliams said: Richie ... Vegas... ? match made in heaven 350 LBs of talent and craziness Edited May 29, 2019 by Tcali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 20 hours ago, Paulus said: TEAM WAS BETTER WITH RICHIE, AND BEANE FUDGED UP, PERIOD. JA WAS HURT BECAUSE OF IT. Oh, man...not this BS again... Shady should "give the ball" to Devin Singletary... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tcali said: match made in heaven It’ll be like when the Rock returned returned to Smackdown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 5 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: Pretty superficial analysis of the offensive problems post-Richie... Because there WAS a reason Shady handed him the ball to spike after he set the franchise record... Hey, I like Beans but he made a mistake on Richie, IMHO. The vast majority of the people on this board mocked me for even suggesting Richie be re-signed. Look, I get the guy's issues. Not all of us are as put together as the rest of us. It does not mean we are bad people which should be disallowed from being part of a successful team (especially, when we make that team better). I wish Richie the best and still believe Beane made a mistake by treating him the way he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Oh, man...not this BS again... Shady should "give the ball" to Devin Singletary... I'm thinking Paulus might be Richie. The continual use of all caps is something someone would do who is unhinged. 1 hour ago, Paulus said: Because there WAS a reason Shady handed him the ball to spike after he set the franchise record... Hey, I like Beans but he made a mistake on Richie, IMHO. The vast majority of the people on this board mocked me for even suggesting Richie be re-signed. Look, I get the guy's issues. Not all of us are as put together as the rest of us. It does not mean we are bad people which should be disallowed from being part of a successful team (especially, when we make that team better). I wish Richie the best and still believe Beane made a mistake by treating him the way he did. No Richie is a bad person. The story I heard about him sexually harrassing a female worker at a charity golf tournament seals it for me. Threatening people and doing stuff like that is irredeemable to me. You're looking the other way just because the guy can play football. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 22 hours ago, Paulus said: Douchey thing to do to a probowler, and then to leave him hanging when he obviously regretted it. Just because it is legal doesn't make it right. Beane fudged up and we saw it in the o-line play last year, which was a joke. Beane made a joke, among a lot of the good things Mcdermott has done. Like, why should we all forget? Did they make the playoffs last year or something? No, JA got injured behind a joke. no question the O line suffered with Cogs and Woodman not there. 22 hours ago, without a drought said: He was under a bit of duress at the time... you know with the whole failing organ thing. It was a difficult time for many of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 8 hours ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Do you even lift bro? ? Yeah, that was the joke. 2 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: I'm thinking Paulus might be Richie. The continual use of all caps is something someone would do who is unhinged. No Richie is a bad person. The story I heard about him sexually harrassing a female worker at a charity golf tournament seals it for me. Threatening people and doing stuff like that is irredeemable to me. You're looking the other way just because the guy can play football. BOOO!!! CAPS ARE AWESOME. I WISH THE FRUITBOOTERS WHO DECIDED THAT THEY WERE BAD GOT FORCED TO TYPE IN CAPS FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES... He was no saint, but there are literally Pittsburgh Stealer QBs out there who rape women. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 The Autumn wind is a Psycho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PetermansRedemption Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: How does anyone sign this guy ?♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Definitely a guy that needs additional head injuries.I mean what could go wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 22 hours ago, Paulus said: My avatar wants to kick this poser's ass. I'll hold him off as long as I can, but no promises... ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) I’ll wish him well (yet again), but I’m glad we don’t need to worry about him keeping himself together for the Bills to field an adequate OLine. Edited May 30, 2019 by Augie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Paulus said: Yeah, that was the joke. BOOO!!! CAPS ARE AWESOME. I WISH THE FRUITBOOTERS WHO DECIDED THAT THEY WERE BAD GOT FORCED TO TYPE IN CAPS FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES... He was no saint, but there are literally Pittsburgh Stealer QBs out there who rape women. Yeah, I'm well aware. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) On 5/28/2019 at 6:46 PM, NoSaint said: Well, I don’t think beane made him insane. And I don’t even mean that as a joke or derogatory. Dude was legitimately unwell. What is "insane?" This country has a serious problem with appearance sensitivity. Why is wanting to cut off your dead dad's head insane? He was mourning. This country has turned into a bunch of women. And, cowardly women at that. 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Dude had a break after his father got sick and died. And, the Twitter cucks are trying to ***** him for it. Shame on them. Edited May 30, 2019 by Paulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Paulus said: What is "insane?" This country has a serious problem with appearance sensitivity. Why is wanting to cut off your dead dad's head insane? He was mourning. This country has turned into a bunch of women. And, cowardly women at that. Dude had a break after his father got sick and died. And, the Twitter cucks are trying to ***** him for it. Shame on them. Plenty of people mourn the loss of a loved one without becoming violent and threatening/scaring/attempting to injure people and being arrested multiple times in a matter of days. Going on a rampage inside a funeral home and damaging their property (including caskets) + threatening to shoot funeral home employees with weapons you actually had in the trunk of your car, attacking gym patrons and then telling the police the guy was some spy because you secretly work for high level government age, and becoming violent at your 90+ year old grandma’s house and damaging property (again) are not normal mourning behaviors. It’s not like this was the first and only incident involving Incognito either. He has a long history of questionable behavior including anger management issues, assault charges, accusations of sexual harassment and racism stretching back 15+ years. If this was just some isolated incident I am sure people would be more understanding. But it’s not. It’s just the latest in a long history of misconducts of all sorts. Edited May 30, 2019 by BillsFan4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Plenty of people mourn the loss of a loved one without becoming violent and threatening/scaring/attempting to injure people and being arrested multiple times in a matter of days. Going on a rampage inside a funeral home and damaging their property (including caskets) + threatening to shoot funeral home employees with weapons you actually had in the trunk of your car, attacking gym patrons and then telling the police the guy was some spy because you secretly work for high level government age, and becoming violent at your 90+ year old grandma’s house and damaging property (again) are not normal mourning behaviors. Nope, they are not normal. But, they are normal. This country is full of so much ****, it sickens me every day I walk outside and look at it. Seriously, believe in something. So many cowards out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 12 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s just misunderstood and it’s not his fault! Some of you are the biggest enablers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 when' he has hit rock bottom he can stay at the homes of those on here laughing away all the horrible things he has done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 12 hours ago, Paulus said: What is "insane?" This country has a serious problem with appearance sensitivity. Why is wanting to cut off your dead dad's head insane? He was mourning. This country has turned into a bunch of women. And, cowardly women at that. Dude had a break after his father got sick and died. And, the Twitter cucks are trying to ***** him for it. Shame on them. sadly, I feel you're serious. look inward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 13 hours ago, Paulus said: What is "insane?" This country has a serious problem with appearance sensitivity. Why is wanting to cut off your dead dad's head insane? He was mourning. This country has turned into a bunch of women. And, cowardly women at that. Seriously!!! I've never lost a loved one and NOT immediately thought, "Goddamn .... cutting this person's head off would really make me feel better." 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, Gugny said: Seriously!!! I've never lost a loved one and NOT immediately thought, "Goddamn .... cutting this person's head off would really make me feel better." i prefer to take a limb home with me when it comes to dead loved ones. i put in on a chain and wear it around as a necklace for a few weeks. really keeps me in touch with their memory. sure i get weird looks, but those people are just pussies, cowards, and are destroying america. 2 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, teef said: i prefer to take a limb home with me when it comes to dead loved ones. i put in on a chain and wear it around as a necklace for a few weeks. really keeps me in touch with their memory. sure i get weird looks, but those people are just pussies, cowards, and are destroying america. As a compromise, you could try wearing just a finger or toe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 13 hours ago, Paulus said: What is "insane?" This country has a serious problem with appearance sensitivity. Why is wanting to cut off your dead dad's head insane? He was mourning. This country has turned into a bunch of women. And, cowardly women at that. Dude had a break after his father got sick and died. And, the Twitter cucks are trying to ***** him for it. Shame on them. You're joking right. I was upset when my father passed away. I did not threaten to decapitate anyone, nor did I show up to the funeral home armed with guns and silencers to threaten folks with either. He has a long history of violent instability, this is not a case of "temporary" insanity. The dude is seriously unwell, should be under observation, medicated, and definitely not in possession of firearms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, chknwing334 said: As a compromise, you could try wearing just a finger or toe? are you telling me how to mourn my loved ones?! this is our problem. everyone is soft. this country is all tampons and lattes nowadays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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