“Still Miles Away” -Colin Cowherd

[NoSaint]

5 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

What he also fails to see is that the worst WR on the team who only caught 37% of his passes is gone. The new Bills slot WR is Cole Beasley who caught 74% of targets in Dallas last year and should resemble a Bills fan favorite in WR Andre Reed. Just what Josh Allen needed besides adding deep WR John Brown to compliment Robert Foster and the CFL's leading receiver in Duke Johnson. 

 

While many of your points are fair you have to go back and read this and think that you may be failing to realize some of your own biases, right?

 

The 3rd WR in Dallas resembles Andre reed?

 

and yea, the foster - Allen connection has potential to look like Big Ben to Antonio brown.... or like JP losman to a udfa. 

 

Odds are we hit on some of these guys and miss wildly on some. And that’s why I think it’s important to push chips in now when we can and over collect talent still.

[starrymessenger]

Pats of course should be strongly favoured to rule the Division yet again. But I think the Bills have a decent chance of ranking second and seriously competing for a playoff spot as a WC. Jets should have a good D, but so should we. All things considered we have about the same weapons on offence than they do and we are well ahead of them in fixing the O-line - what both teams need to help their young QBs. Why he thinks the Finns are going anywhere but the cellar this year is a mystery to me. Rosen is not any better off there than he was in Arizona.

[mannc]

4 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

Pats of course should be strongly favoured to rule the Division yet again. But I think the Bills have a decent chance of ranking second and seriously competing for a playoff spot as a WC. Jets should have a good D, but so should we. All things considered we have about the same weapons on offence than they do and we are well ahead of them in fixing the O-line - what both teams need to help their young QBs. Why he thinks the Finns are going anywhere but the cellar this year is a mystery to me. Rosen is not any better off there than he was in Arizona.

Bills should be picked ahead of the Jets because of Gase, if for no other reason.  

[eball]

I think the blowout losses over the past two seasons can be attributed to two things -- putrid offense and lots of turnovers.  There have been two 3-game blowout streaks in the middle of each of the last two seasons -- Jets/Saints/Chargers in 2017 and Colts/Pats***/Bears in 2018.  During those six games the Bills turned the ball over 21 times and turned their opponents over once.  Read that again -- TWENTY-ONE to ONE.  That's just brutal.

 

With the influx of talent at the OL, WR, and TE positions, and with this being Josh's 2nd year in Daboll's system, I don't expect to see that sort of streak again.

[C.Biscuit97]

19 minutes ago, Foxx said:

if one has been paying attention, his love affair with the Patsies has been quite evident for years.

So he praises a team that has won 6 SBs? What an idiot. 

[freddyjj]

1 hour ago, jimmy10 said:

 

Cowherd is a lifelong west coast guy, grew up, went to school, and lives out there. Or are you just here to drop MAGAt turds in the punch bowl? So edgy. 

No agenda on my part .  

 

I never said Cowturd is an east Coast guy - made his name at ESPN which is east Coast based btw - funny he works for Fox now.  He is just a talking head who follows big city teams only.  Would bet my house he couldn't name 12 current Buffalo Bills - so don't care what he thinks.  Usually wrong anyways.

 

 

[Chandler#81]

2 minutes ago, eball said:

I think the blowout losses over the past two seasons can be attributed to two things -- putrid offense and lots of turnovers.  There have been two 3-game blowout streaks in the middle of each of the last two seasons -- Jets/Saints/Chargers in 2017 and Colts/Pats***/Bears in 2018.  During those six games the Bills turned the ball over 21 times and turned their opponents over once.  Read that again -- TWENTY-ONE to ONE.  That's just brutal.

 

With the influx of talent at the OL, WR, and TE positions, and with this being Josh's 2nd year in Daboll's system, I don't expect to see that sort of streak again.

Excellent. To this point, whether it’s on Sean or not, there isn’t a recognized commitment to turnovers/ taking the ball away on Defense. We were very good the previous year, which saved crucial wins, but among the League worst last season. When there’s a spoken commitment and expressed desire to get turnovers, they seem to happen. At least moreso than we witnessed last season. Nothing can turn a team around faster than a big T/O Plus ratio.

[C.Biscuit97]

25 minutes ago, mannc said:

You are the one who said 11 or 12 point losses shouldn’t count as blowouts.  I simply pointed to the Charger game as an example of an 11-point loss that was utterly non-competitive.

We have been outscored by 162 points in the last 2 years. 

1 minute ago, freddyjj said:

No agenda on my part .  

 

I never said Cowturd is an east Coast guy - made his name at ESPN which is east Coast based btw - funny he works for Fox now.  He is just a talking head who follows big city teams only.  Would bet my house he couldn't name 12 current Buffalo Bills - so don't care what he thinks.  Usually wrong anyways.

 

 

What about Pittsburgh and GB? Again, I hate Cowherd but it is more about how good a team is.  How much do you want to hear about Charlotte Hornets, Arizona Coyotes, or TB Bucs?  

[Logic]

Colin Cowherd is still miles away from touching his first boob.

[TheBrownBear]

Zero blowout losses in the last seven games of the season, unless you count a 12 point loss on the road to the Super Bowl Champs in which we were within a single score into the middle of the 3rd quarter.  +40 scoring differential during those final 7 games.  And we have significantly upgraded our biggest areas of need in the offseason.  We are quietly on the upswing and have all the makings of a "surprise team" in 2019.

 

Also, Cowherd is an idiot, highly insecure and is likely packing a micropeen. 

[Alphadawg7]

7 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Sees us as last in the Division. Obviously, he has many critics, but I’ve always liked him and he makes points.

 

*Alarming 7 Blowout loses

*Young QBs do better with Offensive HC

*Fish go from 7-9 pretenders to WC consideration w/Rosen

*Pats* great Draft

*Jets did much to improve 

 

I’m good with this analysis as we all (AFCE) play a comparatively favorable schedule and no Bills fans really know what we have or who we are yet. We’re putting a lot of stock and hope that all the pieces will fit nicely very quickly. If not, and it’s unreasonable to expect it, we’re going to lose games we likely should and could have won, while learning ‘who we are’.

 

I still think 10 wins is possible, but it’ll take at least 3 Division wins to accomplish.

 

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2019/05/buffalo-bills-still-miles-away-from-competing-in-afc-says-colin-cowherd.html

 

Cowherd is the Nancy Grace of sports broadcasting.  

 

Need proof...he had the Fins at 7-9 before Rosen.  

 

More proof...he has the Fins as a playoff contender with Rosen who was among the worst starters in football last year not named Nathan Peterman because the roster sucked.  Miami's roster is actually even worse.  

[freddyjj]

10 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Excellent. To this point, whether it’s on Sean or not, there isn’t a recognized commitment to turnovers/ taking the ball away on Defense. We were very good the previous year, which saved crucial wins, but among the League worst last season. When there’s a spoken commitment and expressed desire to get turnovers, they seem to happen. At least moreso than we witnessed last season. Nothing can turn a team around faster than a big T/O Plus ratio.

Very good point Chandler#81!  I see Oliver, Vosean Joseph and even Jaquan Johnson as disruptors who will force TOs routinely.  Granted only Oliver will start but Johnson and Joseph may be TO forcers on STs to start as both are big hitters.  Could see Joseph getting SAM LB reps if Lorenzo needs a blow or sustains injury.

 

Forced Fumbles / Interceptions / Sacks in college

Oliver 5 FF in 3 years.  0 INTs.  13.5 sks

Joseph 1 FF in 3 years.  Also 1 INT.  4 sks.

Johnson 6 FF in 4 years.  Also 8 INTs.  2.5 sks

 

[Iron Maiden]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

 

Jesus. You’re not even trying to hide it anymore.

Ohhh...my favorite stalker is back.....It really kills you doesn't it !...lol

[DrDawkinstein]

Over his entire career of blabbing and blithering away, there is only ONE point on any subject that I like from Colin Cowherd. I wont get too into it, but it's regarding the people who call into sports radio and the type of people they are.

 

Other than that, he can suck a fart directly from my butt.

 

He HATES the Bills. He HATES small market teams. He will ALWAYS trash the Bills. His take outlined in the OP is pathetically predictable. I've stopped listening to his opinion on Football, and basically everything else, years ago.

[SoTier]

4 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

I don't agree with him on the Fins, but he's spot on with the Jets. Does it really matter if we finish 3/4 or 4/4? Several of the teams on the rise (Jets, Browns, Jags, Chargers) have gotten better. It's going to be a very uphill battle for us to compete this year. Outside of the Dolphins, there isn't a team we should be counting on being stronger than (on paper) in the whole conference. The Raiders, Titans, Bengals, Ravens, Broncos, and maybe even the Steelers could end up being weak teams this year, but the AFC in general should have a pretty low floor. We should be a more talented team than last year, but I think we're less improved than a lot of other squads.

 

This seems to be what most of the posters here ignore.  The Bills aren't the only team that improved -- and some of those teams that got better were already better than the Bills last season.  I see a lot of posters on TSW snickering at predictions that the Browns may make the playoffs this season, but they obviously haven't looked at the Browns' roster recently.  If Freddie Kitchens can manage the personalities Dorsey's acquired for him, barring significant injuries, that team is going to be an offensive powerhouse with an improved defense.  It's entirely possible that if Mayfield had started from Opening Day that the Browns would have had 9 wins and maybe a playoff berth.

 

1 hour ago, MJS said:

That was only outside perception though. I never thought the Bills were tanking, personally. I bet most Dolphins fans and others who follow their team closely do think that they are tanking.

 

That's nonsense.  TSW had a new thread just about every day on some variation of the theme that the Bills were tanking in 2017.  It was even discussed numerous times in the Buffalo sports media.

Edited May 3, 2019 by SoTier

[BullBuchanan]

5 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

This seems to be what most of the posters here ignore.  The Bills aren't the only team that improved -- and some of those teams that got better were already better than the Bills last season.  I see a lot of posters on TSW snickering at predictions that the Browns may make the playoffs this season, but they obviously haven't looked at the Browns' roster recently.  If Freddie Kitchens can manage the personalities Dorsey's acquired for him, barring significant injuries, that team is going to be an offensive powerhouse with an improved defense.  It's entirely possible that if Mayfield had started from Opening Day that the Browns would have had 9 wins and maybe a playoff berth.

 

Right now, I think the Browns have to be the favorite to win the North. They've massively improved an already rising team, while everyone in their division got worse or stayed the same. Unless Lamar Jackson figured out how to throw a football over the offseason, they have as good a shot as any of them.

[JoPar_v2]

7 hours ago, Cripple Creek said:

he is the most feminine of the bloviating idiots, i'll give him that

 

I’d wager Cowherd hasn’t watched a Bills game in at least 10 years. 

[Nihilarian]

39 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

While many of your points are fair you have to go back and read this and think that you may be failing to realize some of your own biases, right?

 

The 3rd WR in Dallas resembles Andre reed?

 

and yea, the foster - Allen connection has potential to look like Big Ben to Antonio brown.... or like JP losman to a udfa. 

 

Odds are we hit on some of these guys and miss wildly on some. And that’s why I think it’s important to push chips in now when we can and over collect talent still.

While I agree that it might sound homerish. When I said resembles Andre Reed, I meant that Cole Beasley should be fearless in catching everything thrown his way over the middle which is something the Bills solely missed last season. 

 

What the Bills had last season was Zay Jones and Kelvin Benjamin who missed on an alarming 85 targets between them! Benjamin had a 37% catch percentage. He didn't even try more then half the time. 

 

Beasley might have been 3rd on the Dallas depth chart but he was 2nd in receptions just behind Ezekiel Elliott with 65 receptions to 77 and Cole had more yards with 672 to 576.  Beasley also had a 74.7 catch percentage which is on par with most RBs catching shorter passes. The Bills needed a first down pass catcher and it looks like he should do a fine job in that respect. 

 

Now think back to the K gun, no huddle offense with Loften, Beebe running deep routes that opened up the middle of the field for Reed. Then think about John Brown, Robert Foster running deep routes and opening up the middle of the field for Beasley. And that should also the run game with two TEs, three WRs in and out of the shotgun as defenses won't know where the ball is going. DC's crapping themselves the first time Foster, Brown catch a TD bomb! 

 

This year the Bills should field a very exciting offense. Just the way I see it. 

[Buftex]

7 hours ago, zonabb said:

I have a theory about the national media and guys like this turd, who I haven't heard in years. Not an enlightening one or even a leap but many that continually beat up on the Bills, and it's well-deserved, recognize that these hot takes are click and view bait because this market is tuned into the media, regularly pulls high ratings for viewership and is highly engaged so it's one way to get attention. So glowing supports the bigger markets but has a hot take on the Bills and basically covers all his bases. 

 

Has he even been positive on the Bills? Honest question.

I agree with all of this...hate Colin Cowherd so much..he actually drove me away from sports talk radio. But all that said, at the end of the day, are any of them really wrong?  We get mad because the national media guys don't know our teams like we know our teams....they don't seem as aware of the potential of all the great moves our GM made in the off-season...then at the end of the year, we win between 6-9 games, and, well..we suck. We gotta stop sucking..

Edited May 3, 2019 by Buftex

[papazoid]

until you win.....you get no respect. i could care less what cowherd thinks

 

to me, the bills will be better. but not by much...i say 8 wins.

 

still a lack of talent....ZERO bills made the pro bowl last season.

 

how many bills on Offense with make the Pro Bowl this season ?....probably NONE !!

 

how many on defense ?...maybe ONE !! (a DB)

 

our depth has improved considerably, which will show in special teams. we upgraded several starting positions, but no impact players (maybe center).

 

Ed Oliver replacing superstar Kyle Williams is at best a wash....not an upgrade. the key to this season will be all about the O-line, which "should" be much better.

 

still going to be fun to watch. i say 2020 we start to be a regular playoff team.

[Nihilarian]

6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

 

Right now, I think the Browns have to be the favorite to win the North. They've massively improved an already rising team, while everyone in their division got worse or stayed the same. Unless Lamar Jackson figured out how to throw a football over the offseason, they have as good a shot as any of them.

On paper is a funny thing. 

 

The Browns two head coaches last year are now long gone.  The quarterback coach is now the head coach and while the new HC will be calling the offensive plays. New DC will be Steve Wilks who was the HC at Arizona last season. 

 

The Cleveland Browns went 7-8-1 last year and won 5 of their last 7 games under Gregg Williams.

 

Who knows how that new coaching staff will do this season. Same old Browns?

[MJS]

54 minutes ago, SoTier said:

That's nonsense.  TSW had a new thread just about every day on some variation of the theme that the Bills were tanking in 2017.  It was even discussed numerous times in the Buffalo sports media.

 

Yep, there were a few idiots. Most fans shot those threads down. And Buffalo Sports Media is as bad as anyone.

[FLFan]

I have never had any respect for Colin Cowherd and this lame opinion certainly changes nothing.  Not even worth arguing. 

[Shaw66]

8 hours ago, MichaelAbdallah said:

Here's all you need to know in order to understand Colin Cowherd's football opinions:

 

NYC: #1 metro area in population

Miami: #7 metro area in population

Boston: #10 metro area in population

Buffalo: #50 metro area in population

 

He has openly expressed his disdain for blue collar people and small cities and feels that the NFL would be a better league if the Buffalo Bills had moved to Toronto.

I used to listen to him a lot, and I don't know about open disdain for him.   However, he has been very clear that he gets paid based on how many ears are listening and how many eyes are watching.  So your list explains exactly why he says nice things about the Jets and not about the Bills.  

[IgotBILLStopay]

9 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Sees us as last in the Division. Obviously, he has many critics, but I’ve always liked him and he makes points.

 

*Alarming 7 Blowout loses

*Young QBs do better with Offensive HC

*Fish go from 7-9 pretenders to WC consideration w/Rosen

*Pats* great Draft

*Jets did much to improve 

 

I’m good with this analysis as we all (AFCE) play a comparatively favorable schedule and no Bills fans really know what we have or who we are yet. We’re putting a lot of stock and hope that all the pieces will fit nicely very quickly. If not, and it’s unreasonable to expect it, we’re going to lose games we likely should and could have won, while learning ‘who we are’.

 

I still think 10 wins is possible, but it’ll take at least 3 Division wins to accomplish.

 

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2019/05/buffalo-bills-still-miles-away-from-competing-in-afc-says-colin-cowherd.html

Fins moved from a HC who is offensive minded to  defensive minded and from experienced to young QB

Only 2 of the blowout losses were with JA starting - even there he did well against the chargers in the second half - so it was only 3 halves of blowout losses

Edited May 3, 2019 by IgotBILLStopay

[Chandler#81]

Just now, IgotBILLStopay said:

Fins have a HC who is offensive minded to  defensive minded and experienced to young QB

Only 2 of the blowout losses were with JA starting - even there he did well against the chargers in the second half - so it was only 3 halves of blowout losses

I wouldn’t recommend blowing these games off as aberrations. There’ve been way too many in Sean’s 1st 2seasons. JA had little to nothing to do with them, but it’s a definite trend which must be addressed and stopped. Just like the ridiculous amount of penalties and dropped passes. 

[IgotBILLStopay]

28 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

I wouldn’t recommend blowing these games off as aberrations. There’ve been way too many in Sean’s 1st 2seasons. JA had little to nothing to do with them, but it’s a definite trend which must be addressed and stopped. Just like the ridiculous amount of penalties and dropped passes. 

Really? Even the 2017 season? I only remember the Peterman 5 int game and the Saints game. Even the Pats games were very close at the half, no? It is possible I am missing some games. 

 

But hey! I am all for turning those blowout losses into wins. 

[njbuff]

May is just a bad month if you are a football fan.

[Dr.Sack]

I’m in the camp that we should be improved from our average of 7.5 wins & 8.5 losses record the past 2 years. We had a lot of dead cap money the past 2 years. Now that a majority of our cap is going to pay for contributors and we have a rebuilt OLine things should be better. One has the figure a top 10 running game, and top 10 defense will more than compensate if Josh Allen’s accuracy continue to hover around 50%. But ultimately the #1 factor in our success will be Allen. If Allen plays at a top 1/2 of NFL QBs this is where we enter playoff talk. Prognosticators like Cowherd put it all on the QB and not the overall coaching and complimentary players. Case in point, out Tom Brady on last years team and we might win another 3 games max. That’s assuming he could have survived behind a horrible OLine that couldn’t run the ball. Allen will be better the question is how improved will his supporting teammates around him be? 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

I'd like to powerbomb that pixie into a flaming folding table.

[BillsfaninSB]

Media Bills bashing is perfectly fine.   Keep us under the radar.

 

 

[GoBills808]

3 hours ago, Foxx said:

if one has been paying attention, his love affair with the Patsies has been quite evident for years.

 

Yeah an unabashed Pats fan...was on the old board too. Just run through posting history, it's funny to me I guess.

2 hours ago, Iron Maiden said:

Ohhh...my favorite stalker is back.....It really kills you doesn't it !...lol

 

I like to call it how I see it. I think it's weird that a Patriots fan is on a Bills messageboard pretending to be a Bills fan is all. It's not personal.

[ricko1112]

9 hours ago, RiotAct said:

“Fish go from 7-9 pretenders to WC consideration w/Rosen”

 

?????

#1 Pats, #2 Bills, #3 Jets, #4 Dolphins

The only question is if the Bills get a WC. They may need to get to 11 wins. That's gonna be extremely difficult because according to the "experts" NE, KC, LAC, INDY, HOU, PITT, CLE, and BAL are all going to make the playoffs. And yes, I know I listed 8 teams. Only to highlight the absurdity of the words of the clowns so many people take as fact... 

 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

9 minutes ago, ricko1112 said:

#1 Pats, #2 Bills, #3 Jets, #4 Dolphins

The only question is if the Bills get a WC. They may need to get to 11 wins. That's gonna be extremely difficult because according to the "experts" NE, KC, LAC, INDY, HOU, PITT, CLE, and BAL are all going to make the playoffs. And yes, I know I listed 8 teams. Only to highlight the absurdity of the words of the clowns so many people take as fact... 

 

the experts are full of 

[Shaw66]

2 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

This seems to be what most of the posters here ignore.  The Bills aren't the only team that improved -- and some of those teams that got better were already better than the Bills last season. 

The coaches never talk about how good any of the other teams are.   For them, it's all about getting their team to be as good as it can be.  

 

I found myself getting excited about the 2019 Bills the other day, and then I remembered just how hard it is to win ANY game in the NFL.   These are great, evenly matched teams, and they're all desperate to win.  

 

Daboll could be no better this season than last.  The new Oline coach may be a failure.  There's a new special teams coach, but that doesn't mean they'll be better.  The defense might regress.  Maybe Edmunds doesn't step up to another level of play. 

 

Most importantly, maybe Allen is a perpetual 54% completion guy, no matter what the Bills try to get him to do.  If that alone turns out to be true, the Bills will have trouble winning 8 games.  

 

What do I think is going to happen?   I think the offensive line is going to be better by a wide margin.   Morse will take over the leadership of the line, Ford will handle business on the right side, and two veteran guards will step in play reasonably well.   The result is that McCoy/Gore/Singletary will exceed 1500 yards.  Allen will be over 60% and the Bills will win 9 or more.  

 

But people who aren't Bills fans and aren't paying attention still haven't realized that Allen is better than all the pre-draft analysis that said he was a project who only can throw deep.  They still don't understand that the Bills acquired an entirely new, experienced offensive line.  And they still think McCoy and Gore are way over the hill.   I think half way into the season they'll be scratching their heads wondering where the Bills came from.  

[dgrochester55]

Cowherd has never liked the Bills or had any respect for them.

 

That aside, the fact that he thinks that the one QB in last years draft less proven than Allen being added to one of the worst rosters in football is somehow suddenly a wild card contender speaks more to his lack of football knowledge than anything else.

[hemma]

I get more enjoyment out of watching Limu Emu and it’s not even close.

[habes1280]

10 hours ago, Mark80 said:

 

Yep, a guy who is thought of so highly that they barely got a 2nd round pick for him.

 

I don't think this is a real measure of his value.  The Cardinals left themselves with no leverage, and the Dolphins exploited it and got him for a price.  Rosen may or may not develop into a top-tier quarterback, but it would be difficult to argue that the Dolphins aren't more stable at quarterback with him on the roster.

[Iron Maiden]

37 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

 

Yeah an unabashed Pats fan...was on the old board too. Just run through posting history, it's funny to me I guess.

 

I like to call it how I see it. I think it's weird that a Patriots fan is on a Bills messageboard pretending to be a Bills fan is all. It's not personal.

What I think is strange and that for some, quite a few actually, it's impossible to be a Bills fan and at the same time, appreciate what NE has done over the last 2 decades.

Saying New England has set the bar so high that most likely no other team will ever be able to reach it does not make me weird....makes me accurate.....I've said many times that I believe what NE has been/is doing is really bad for the NFL and the sooner it ends, the better....And I hope we never see anything like this again....I do however accept that they're the most dominant dynasty the NFL has ever seen, Brady is GOAT and so is Belichick......If that makes me, in your eyes, a lesser Bills fan...frankly.....I don't care.....keep your head in the sand where it's all nice and cozy...lol

 

I'm in my mid 50's, so there's a good chance I was a Bills fan before you......telling other fans how to act is always a classic ! Thanks !

[Augie]

Pat Kirwan had some very nice things to say about our draft. We can like him!   ?

 

 

The proof is in the pudding. If we win, the narrative will change. Love him or hate him, Cowherd will face the music when he’s wrong. He’s generally positive on Allen, but thinks we still have a ways to go. I think we are closer than he does, but that’s why we play the games. Let’s make him own this. PLEASE! 

 

Regardless, we are talking about him and his stuff, so he wins.