MacGyver Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Barkley Fans around here would be calling for Fitz way too soon, and Tyrod is not really backup material IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, MacGyver said: Barkley Fans around here would be calling for Fitz way too soon, and Tyrod is not really backup material IMO. Why do you think he's not backup material? I put him in the same category at Fitz: Not quite good enough to be a starter, but one of the best backups in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Just now, MJS said: Why do you think he's not backup material? I put him in the same category at Fitz: Not quite good enough to be a starter, but one of the best backups in the league. He doesn't have the right attitude to be a backup IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 While I liked some of the things that Tyrod can do, I have no longing to have him as my backup QB. I think if you have to resort to using Tyrod for any length of time, you have to change your offense, because he has something of a specialized skill set. Fitz can also do some good things. I wouldn't mind having him as my backup, but I'd just as soon keep Barkley. I'm sure Barkley has some negatives. I haven't followed his career beyond hearing he didn't have a great arm coming out of USC. His sample size with the Bills is too small to make any definitive assessment, but he hasn't given me any reason not to like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, MacGyver said: He doesn't have the right attitude to be a backup IMO. Hmm. I always thought he had a pretty good, professional attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Just now, MJS said: Hmm. I always thought he had a pretty good, professional attitude. iirc he brought up the QB race card and had a bit of a victim mentality to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 A lot more input is needed for me I love Fitz because of the kind of team mate he is & i really like that gun slinger mentality but his INT's kill you eventually, Tyrod is also great guy super team mate & leader very safe player & as a back up probably couldn't do much better but he does need to score more, just take some chances ! Then there is Barkley, if his one & only game for the Bills could be any kind of pre curser of how he would be on the field all the time hands down my pick but we haven't seen enough of him in Dabols scheme to know but i trust McBeane & he is there for now so he is my pick !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) Assuming none of them is asked to play: Fitz the mentor...... the wise voice in the ear of the starter. A wise counsel to the young QB trying to learn the ropes of being a team leader under a media microscope. Barkley is the sidekick. Like Tonto or Robin, he is in the fight but knows his place, burries his ego and is loyal to the cause. That was Frank Reich. Tyrod seems so understated and his personality is veiled. His effect in the room would be more subtle. I doubt he need do much for Rivers and what good he did for Mayfield is not obvious to me. Now, when you need them to start a game or, to the extreme, finish a season and take it to the post season ala Foles, I have no idea but I think your team is screwed with any of them as the starter. Edited April 29, 2019 by JESSEFEFFER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 16 minutes ago, MacGyver said: Barkley Fans around here would be calling for Fitz way too soon, and Tyrod is not really backup material IMO. Having seen Josh's performance last season, why would anyone be quick to call for Fitz this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, WhoTom said: Having seen Josh's performance last season, why would anyone be quick to call for Fitz this year? It would only take a few poor performances by Allen to have many Bills fans clamoring for Fitz. Edited April 29, 2019 by MacGyver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 15 minutes ago, MacGyver said: iirc he brought up the QB race card and had a bit of a victim mentality to him. He was asked about those issues directly and answered honestly. I don't have an issue with that. His opinion is that race plays a factor, and other people have the opinion that it doesn't. Two halves of the same coin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Irv said: I agree, Can't stand "Fitzgerald". Fitzpatrick, who cares? Tyrod was a nice guy but he had his day. Is anyone else in the league hoping he will play for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, MJS said: He was asked about those issues directly and answered honestly. I don't have an issue with that. His opinion is that race plays a factor, and other people have the opinion that it doesn't. Two halves of the same coin. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Doesn't matter they are all not good enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Barkley for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 He’s not the best QB but I’ll take Fitz. He’s fun. He takes chances. Some will argue TT because he doesn’t take any chances. I’d rather have someone fun in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Fitz, but I hope it’s not for more than three games at a time. More than three games and he starts to look old and tired. After about three games Fitzmagic becomes Fitztragic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 5 hours ago, Rc2catch said: I’m taking Fitz 100% You know where he went to school? That man is smart. In all seriousness I would take Fitz over the others as backup, as he’s the most capable to come out of the pen and get you some wins in an injury situation. Not to mention the guy has played for 1000 coaches and teams now he knows how to work a playbook and offense and apparently is quite good in the locker room Yes. You don't know what you are going to get with any of those 3 guys, but I think you have more of a chance at catching Fitz on a day good than with the others, and if you do, he can do the most for you when he's on. Of course, he also might throw 4 INTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Wow, really? Fitz and it isn't even close. Barkley is a nonentity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Go back two years and there were actually posters on this forum arguing that Tyrod Taylor was a Franchise Quarterback. Yes folks, our expectations had been lowered to such an extent that it became a thing. "Hey this guys doesn't completely screw up every time he hits the field, damn that must be what a Franchise Quarterback looks like." Tyrod is basically still a rookie. Give him time. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Tyfraud or Pickspatrick for more than league minimum is a hard pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 During the bills/Steelers game(Johnson’s drop) years ago there was a dude that sat behind us the whole game and just kept yelling “come on FRITZY! get mad, FRITZY!” I’ll never forget it. Good ole “FRITZY”... My buddy that was there with me(Stiller fan) and I have called him by the name “FRITZY” to this day. funny thing is ole fritz did seem to look pretty pissed off when he had to zing one. ....And I’m not answering the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Tyrod is the man who broke the curse. I would take him all day. I wish he was still a Bill. 38 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Tyfraud or Pickspatrick for more than league minimum is a hard pass. You mean Fitz-putrid, Fitz-tragic, or Fitz-pick-6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 With our defense and lack of elite offensive personnel, I'm taking Tyrod every day of the week. Heck, he lead them to 9 wins with that gutted 2017 roster. Both Fitz and Barkley would put up better numbers(with a lot more turnovers), but Tyrod would lead them to the most wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloanBillsFan Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Kinda torn because I am a TT fan and I liked Fitz right up to the point where he got a huge paycheck and his hands turned into every opponent's best friends. I think I'd have to go: Barclay Taylor Fitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Tyrod? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) Fitz x1000 Harder questions please, like can underthrowing be fixed:) 1 hour ago, SloanBillsFan said: Kinda torn because I am a TT fan and I liked Fitz right up to the point where he got a huge paycheck and his hands turned into every opponent's best friends. I think I'd have to go: Barclay Taylor Fitz I hope your 1st choice was autocorrected. If not im worried about how you came to your conclusion Edited April 30, 2019 by gobills1212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 12 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Wow, really? Fitz and it isn't even close. Barkley is a nonentity. Not everybody agrees. I did not anticipate the split opinions on this. I'm leaning towards the guy that would make the least mistakes - TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, Irv said: Not everybody agrees. I did not anticipate the split opinions on this. I'm leaning towards the guy that would make the least mistakes - TT. You have to score points to win. Tyrod is worthless in todays nfl. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 42 minutes ago, Irv said: Not everybody agrees. I did not anticipate the split opinions on this. I'm leaning towards the guy that would make the least mistakes - TT. I'd rather have the guy who has seen it all, will walk into the locker room and the huddle and immediately command the respect of his teammates and if they lose, go down swinging. TT could achieve none of that. Neither could Barkley. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I wouldn´t sign Fitz as backup, he is like the human Madden curse. For some reason he starts a couple of games a year so that would mean Allen gettiong hurt or playing bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Fitz, easily. Job of backup QB is to be able to come in for a couple of weeks and keep everything moving. Fitz, throughout his career, has proven capable of coming in as a backup and winning some games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 19 hours ago, Limeaid said: Depends on scheme and how backup would be used. Fitz - if you needed someone to take chances since you were not going to win otherwise Tyrod - Someone to make something happen when RBs/line were not getting it done. Good as 2nd QB as slash QB/RB. Barkley - when you are winning the game and QB needs to come out for injury. Don't take chances, don't mess up. Pretty good assessment. Barkley played a very good game against the Jets for us last year. He did everything you want your QB to do if you're playing with a good D and just want him to score enough points - threw for enough yards, completed 60% of his passes, 9 YPA, no mistakes. His performance in 2016 to finish the season with Chicago suggests that he might not be able to sustain that, unless it represents a true uptick in QB IQ or a better-match of a system. Good Fitz can light your hair on fire, and has been able to since his very first game as a pro, but all fans in Buffalo painfully know he will eventually turn into Bad Fitz and crush your hopes and dreams while grinding your bones to make his bread. OK, not that last, but the rest of it. 1 hour ago, Irv said: Not everybody agrees. I did not anticipate the split opinions on this. I'm leaning towards the guy that would make the least mistakes - TT. Making the least mistakes as a QB doesn't count when you won't pull the trigger and try an adequate number of times. It's like a student submitting a blank sheet of test paper - they didn't make mistakes, but they didn't take a shot either. TT can play decently in a specific system. If he were backing up LJax in a system designed by Roman and designed around a strong run game, I'd pick him. No where else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Fitz beat the Pats in a wild one at home. That alone makes him my #1 backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Assuming money/cap isn't an issue, Fitz every time. Just promise me we don't fall in to the trap of him stringing together three good games and declaring him the franchise savior. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 20 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: Fitz by a mile, if we are talking just one season. Then Tyrod. Then Barkley. The problem with selecting Fitz is that you're basically guaranteeing that your starter is going to get seriously injured. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Tough call. I'd pick Fitz since I've seen a larger body of work. Based on the Jets game, it would be Barkley all the way, but that was just one game. I'd be cool with Tyrod except the NFL knows his shtick now. (Like latter day Flutie.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: The problem with selecting Fitz is that you're basically guaranteeing that your starter is going to get seriously injured. Incredible, impossible, but true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 1st - Barkley 2nd - Fitz - dude is 36 or I'd pop him first Distant 3rd - Tyrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Fitz only for September games Barkley for the jets and tyrod if wanna make the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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