Bubba Gump Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 ***** the Pats*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Not having Gronk will take alot away from their passing attack. He was the reason you could double Edelman. He was the guy who won outside against single coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, klos63 said: Do you think the Pats will address any perceived weakness with their 12 draft picks, 6 of which are in the first round, and with some remaining free agents? I doubt they'll just ignore their roster til training camp. Pats have 8 million in cap space with their 9 million draft allocation, they have 12 picks, one in the first, 2 in the 2nd and 3 in the 3rd. Yes, they will add to their roster, but the Bills have added strongly in FA and have 3 times the Patriots salary cap space with 10 picks. The Bills have their QB and the Patriots need to spend a high pick on a replacement for Brady. We also 3 picks in the first three rounds and the possibility of a trade down to pick up another 2nd day pick. I think the Bills have a very comparable roster to the Patriots better in some areas, even in a few, lesser in others, but very comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 It all hinges on their draft. A good one and they keep rolling. A s*** one and the collapse is on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, RPbillsfan said: With Gronk retiring and other major free agent loses the Patriots will be much weaker and vulnerable next year. I reviewed Sportac NFL link and looked at the current TE and WR on the roster and it's worse then what the Bills had last year. Of course the Patriots do have 6 picks in the first three rounds to rebuild, but also have serious holes to fill. One Bills point in this is that we can assume Hockenson, Fant and Irv Smith will all be drafted in Round 1. I believe this may alter the approach in the rest of free agency and in the draft. My feeling is that the Bills make a move at DT now in FA, maybe even offering a pick for TB 3 technique tackle Gerald McCoy. With the Bucs in dire cap status, they could move him to the Bills and pick up 13 million in cap space. That would free up the Bills to draft a TE in round 1, if a trade down is viable select Hockenson (all purpose) or Fant (major downfield threat) with their first round pick and then BPA thru the rest of the draft. Give Brady a bunch of high school skill players and he will compete for a championship with BB as his coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 35 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: So what I gather is that you guys believe Tom Brady will never "lose it?" I mean, I get it. We've been hearing reports of his demise for 10 years now. At some point, it's going to be true. What I saw in the playoffs was a QB on his last legs willing himself into throws his body theoretically shouldn't have been able to make. That is not going to last forever. The question is not if, it's when. And the when could very well be now. No, not at all. Of course there will be a when, ( all the avocado toast in the world won’t stop that ) but you can be sure of one thing ; when the “ when” arrives, Brady’s ego will not allow him to continue and tarnish his own legacy. He will know when to say “ when”, and retire at that time. Hope it’s sooner than later. 6 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Give Brady a bunch of high school skill players and he will compete for a championship with BB as his coach. I couldn’t disagree more. Brady will win with competent players as long as he hasn’t slipped and it’s McDaniels offense. B.B. won’t matter that much and he certainly wouldn’t win with high school players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 I'll get excited when the Bills beat the Patriots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Just now, Boatdrinks said: No, not at all. Of course there will be a when, ( all the avocado toast in the world won’t stop that ) but you can be sure of one thing ; when the “ when” arrives, Brady’s ego will not allow him to continue and tarnish his own legacy. He will know when to say “ when”, and retire at that time. Hope it’s sooner than later. That's where I respectfully disagree. I believe his ego is telling him something his body will not allow. The very same ego that made him the greatest QB of all time is leading him to hang on a year too long. I watched the playoffs intently and saw a WARRIOR mustering everything he had into routine throws. It was a remarkable feat that only the very best could have ever accomplished. But I fully believe it was his last hurrah. If he loses even the slightest bit of velocity, he is done as an NFL quarterback. Father Time is undefeated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said: That's where I respectfully disagree. I believe his ego is telling him something his body will not allow. The very same ego that made him the greatest QB of all time is leading him to hang on a year too long. I watched the playoffs intently and saw a WARRIOR mustering everything he had into routine throws. It was a remarkable feat that only the very best could have ever accomplished. But I fully believe it was his last hurrah. If he loses even the slightest bit of velocity, he is done as an NFL quarterback. Father Time is undefeated. Oh, I agree on Father Time , and it sure appeared that the whispers about a Brady injury might have some merit. I strongly believe he I’ll retire before he will play as a shell of himself that is clearly in major decline. He will not allow anyone to see him playing that way as a final image of him. Just my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: No, not at all. Of course there will be a when, ( all the avocado toast in the world won’t stop that ) but you can be sure of one thing ; when the “ when” arrives, Brady’s ego will not allow him to continue and tarnish his own legacy. He will know when to say “ when”, and retire at that time. Hope it’s sooner than later. I couldn’t disagree more. Brady will win with competent players as long as he hasn’t slipped and it’s McDaniels offense. B.B. won’t matter that much and he certainly wouldn’t win with high school players. BB has been doing it for the last 18 years my friend. The high school players is an exageration, I didnt mean it literaly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Just now, formerlyofCtown said: BB has been doing it for the last 18 years my friend. The high school players is an exageration, I didnt mean it literaly. Not coincidentally with Brady as his QB for the vast majority of the games. I figured the HS player part was overstated, but they’ve won with offense since about 2004 or so. Not knocking BB, but that run doesn’t happen without Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Hey lets just start by winning a game against them in regular season..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 What about the New England running game? Toward the end of last season, and through the playoffs, that's what New England relied on more than passing. And of course, they also have Edelman, and nobody has yet figured out how to cover him in the short and intermediate passing game. This thread kind of sounds like another angle to assert that Buffalo should draft Hockenson at #9. I still don't buy it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: The key point in the topic is if the Bills were considering a TE in round 2, the three best will probably be drafted by pick 40. The FA TE market is now dried up. There is quality talent left at DT such as Suh and Wilkerson and the X factor of Gerald McCoy in Tampa possibly available in trade due to cap concerns. To me, it seems that the Bills may alter their plans in the balance of pre-draft FA and may affect their draft plans. You're right about the key point you made. The title of your thread makes some feel you're going to talk about the pats demise(I did). To me the title and content don't go together. Especially if some people don't even read your post and just go by the title, and it seems some have done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: I've been watching the team with Gronk, Walker, Hogan, Cooks, Amendola etc. How many of them are left. Thats my point If you have been watching the team with Cooks, you were watching them lose the SB to Cooks's former team. If you have been watching Amendola, you watched them getting their ***** handed to them by the Bills in week 17. What was your point again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: I've been watching the team with Gronk, Walker, Hogan, Cooks, Amendola etc. How many of them are left. Thats my point Not much of a point, then, outside Gronk. Cooks wasn't there last year. Didn't they do OK without him? Same with Amendola, and Amendola's not some great talent. Never gotten 700 yards a year even with Brady throwing to him. Same with all of them, really. The Pats get by without great skill players because of Brady. Gronk is the exception. But believe it, they'll find somebody else to have Brady throw to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Is everyone forgetting how obviously Brady had declined late last year? He's going to be 42. This is the year. They'll probably struggle to 10-6 or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 They still have Brady, Edelpunk, Sony Michel, and Belichick. Anyone they cut/lost will be replaced and fit into the scheme. I doubt they're concerned about their 'lack of skill players'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdjr85 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: With Gronk retiring and other major free agent loses the Patriots will be much weaker and vulnerable next year. I reviewed Sportac NFL link and looked at the current TE and WR on the roster and it's worse then what the Bills had last year. Of course the Patriots do have 6 picks in the first three rounds to rebuild, but also have serious holes to fill. One Bills point in this is that we can assume Hockenson, Fant and Irv Smith will all be drafted in Round 1. I believe this may alter the approach in the rest of free agency and in the draft. My feeling is that the Bills make a move at DT now in FA, maybe even offering a pick for TB 3 technique tackle Gerald McCoy. With the Bucs in dire cap status, they could move him to the Bills and pick up 13 million in cap space. That would free up the Bills to draft a TE in round 1, if a trade down is viable select Hockenson (all purpose) or Fant (major downfield threat) with their first round pick and then BPA thru the rest of the draft. Ahahahaha ahahaha this is too much, dosent matter who they lose. Still winning the afc east, and will be in the championship game. 3 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: Position by position bills vs patriots QB - Huge advantage Patriots RB - Close to even OL - Bills slight advantage WR - Bills TE - Bills slight advantage PK - Bills currently until Gostowski resigns P - Patriots ST - Patriots DL - Bills LB - Patriots CB - Patriots S. - Even Look at the current Patriots roster at TE and WR, is that a competent group Bills have no advantage at any position group on the field. The coaching in buffalo is a joke. Cleveland has better coaching 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeane Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Virgil said: They literally just won the Super Bowl That they did, and your point? Not saying they're first to worst, but I said BEGINNING OF THE END. Also, this definitely won't happen to the Pats, but there are plenty of examples of teams declining a year after winning the super bowl. @Virgil Troll much??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Gronk was the key to NE entire offense. He was becoming a dominant run blocker. So they could seamlessly go from run formation to pass formation without much package substitution. They lived off catching defenses in favorable personal and exploting it til its corrected, then they counter. Having to formation substitute slows down their offense, not having anyone outside who can win one on one allows you to play them straight up. 2019 stop the run force Brady to drop back and beat you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, JPP said: Hey lets just start by winning a game against them in regular season..... THANK YOU. People are f-ing delusional around here.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 6 hours ago, White Linen said: It has to end at some point. Billy is 66. They will be gone when Allen is in his prime. Yes they will. I see Tom retiring after 2020 and Bill shortly thereafter. We just have to be a little more patient and the division will be ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 6 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: I've been watching the team with Gronk, Walker, Hogan, Cooks, Amendola etc. How many of them are left. Thats my point Who is this Walker guy? Was he any good? because I have never heard of him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Patriots skill positions are still filled Coach - Belichick QB - Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 7 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: I've been watching the team with Gronk, Walker, Hogan, Cooks, Amendola etc. How many of them are left. Thats my point Lol before them their was welker, moss, Corey dillon, Hernandez, troy brown. Child please. Did you just start watching last year? The common denominator is Brady. He has always made it work. Lol hogan... effin Chris Hogan. The dudes trash. Only this fanbase thought he was good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 7 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: The key point in the topic is if the Bills were considering a TE in round 2, the three best will probably be drafted by pick 40. The FA TE market is now dried up. There is quality talent left at DT such as Suh and Wilkerson and the X factor of Gerald McCoy in Tampa possibly available in trade due to cap concerns. To me, it seems that the Bills may alter their plans in the balance of pre-draft FA and may affect their draft plans. If TE was the intent of your post, why all the other crap? You get rightfully schooled in every thread you make. ”the Bills May alter their plans and May affect their Draft.” Gripping stuff! Stop creating inane threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Mat68 said: Gronk was the key to NE entire offense. He was becoming a dominant run blocker. So they could seamlessly go from run formation to pass formation without much package substitution. They lived off catching defenses in favorable personal and exploting it til its corrected, then they counter. Having to formation substitute slows down their offense, not having anyone outside who can win one on one allows you to play them straight up. 2019 stop the run force Brady to drop back and beat you. He was always a dominant run blocker. No one just becomes a dominant run blocker in their late 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 9 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: Any chance you could explain how. Looking at their roster vs that of the Bills, which do you think is better I can explain. For the last 20 years they have been fine. I dont see why next year would be any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 We have all learned, well, I guess we haven't, to never write this team off. I won't believe it until I see it in the final standings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Unfortunately all that matters in NE is scheme. Brady did have a done year this year as compared to previous. that cheating piece of ***** coach they have always has the players prepared. it doesn’t make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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row_33 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 10 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: I've been watching the team with Gronk, Walker, Hogan, Cooks, Amendola etc. How many of them are left. Thats my point They will beat you with half the talent you think you have on paper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 As long as Brady and Belichick are there, they will always be the favorites to win the division. I refuse to let myself believe otherwise, as I've been fooled too many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Another RPbillsfan thread about to crash and burn in a short time span. This is must be some type of record . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 12 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: The key point in the topic is if the Bills were considering a TE in round 2, the three best will probably be drafted by pick 40. The FA TE market is now dried up. There is quality talent left at DT such as Suh and Wilkerson and the X factor of Gerald McCoy in Tampa possibly available in trade due to cap concerns. To me, it seems that the Bills may alter their plans in the balance of pre-draft FA and may affect their draft plans. This is the big key. Pat's will be looking for a TE early now for sure. We need to be prepared to grab one of the top 3 which may require a move back into first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 The Patriots' roster has been getting weaker and weaker as the years go by. It's a testament to Belichick's genius and how valuable Brady is to him. Belichick will restock and reinvent the team. Remember it happened when he drafted Gron k and Hernandez. It will happen again. It will continue to happen at least until Brady, and maybe not even then. Belichick will always be near the top competitively, so long as he has a quarterback. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 it's the patriot way......sustained dynasty they fill RB & WR with cheap short term deals with veterans......and there's still time for that to happen. they let highly overpaid veterans walk in free agency in exchange for extra 3rd round comp picks. they have 2 of those this year and likely two next year. belichick is a master at working the salary cap. it's no coincidence the roster looks weaker and they keep winning and winning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 55 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: The Patriots' roster has been getting weaker and weaker as the years go by. It's a testament to Belichick's genius and how valuable Brady is to him. Belichick will restock and reinvent the team. Remember it happened when he drafted Gron k and Hernandez. It will happen again. It will continue to happen at least until Brady, and maybe not even then. Belichick will always be near the top competitively, so long as he has a quarterback. All this has happened before and will happen again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, prissythecat said: All this has happened before and will happen again Right. And I continue to think that McDermott is a closet Belichick disciple. That's why he wanted Daboll to run the offense. He wants, I'm guessing, Daboll to install a QB-driven offense that builds on itself year after year, with a talented QB improving year after year. Daboll worked in that system for several years. If McDermott can pull it off, we will be entering into another era of Bills greatness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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