tbarg12 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Even though the deal fell through, I like the fact that Beane inquired about Brown, shows they are not complacent in adding talent by any means necessary. Unfortunately it didn't work out this time, but I have a feeling that as Josh Allen progresses, getting FA receivers to come to Buffalo won't be as much of an issue. And showing the league that the Bills can be consistent in winning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Move on to the next one. That’s all you can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: At the end of the day. This all stops ONCE the Bills build a consistent winner. You have to build a consistent winner in order to get pieces that help you build a consistent winner? ? (I kid) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: You didn't say this to me, but this is true. Its absolutely ok to be critical and be a fan. I don't have anything close to an infatuation with you. And please, you know exactly what I am talking about, so the retirement story is irrelevant. I am talking your entire time on this board, not just the last 3 months. And you know this because I have said this to you before. Ok...so this is the quote that made me want to reply in general here to you. I am actually only doing this because under this negative Nancy act you do all the time, there is a person in there that could be a better contributor to the board. Here is my issue. You are no where near as vocal during the "good" times, big weeks, etc than you are the moment you sniff something negative. Once you do, you never let up. You want to pile on all your years of a disappointed fan into one single moment or topic to no end. Then when you schtick wears thin with other posters, many of which are respected and good posters around here, you love to play the "victim" card. Youre now the "bad guy" for being "honest" and all that schtick. Truthfully, when you are not being a whiney ex scorned lover ranting and spewing negativity to no end, you are actually a good poster. Its unfortunate that is not nearly as common as these negative rabbit holes you like to force or drag people into. I have multiple times commended on good posts/dialogue where you are not discussing things with your s**t covered goggles on and being more objective. Even in this thread you went to the brink of utter ridiculousness on what you wanted to pile onto this singular event. You have also tried to back pedal since while simultaneously trying to be negative and also be a victim all at the same time. You get upset at how you are painted as a poster yet take know accountability on how you come across, especially when being negatively condescending to sell an over the top negative narrative. You don't want to be the bad guy, then don't spend so much time talking like a scorned ex lover and spend more time engaging in better dialogue, because when you do, you get a lot more respect around here. And that doesn't mean you have to have rose colored glasses on or not be critical, skeptical, etc. I have been vocal during the good times as well. I am sorry you just ignore them. I was hyper critical of Tyrod and turned you and the contingent against my takes. Well turns out I was right. It is OK. So not I am seeing the same thing from a coaching staff that they HAVE NO CLUE on the offensive side of the football. I point thay out and again the contingent comes back. So I guess it will be seen if I am right or wrong again. Did not once backpeddle my point in this in this thread from the jump 2 minutes ago, whatdrought said: You have to build a consistent winner in order to get pieces that help you build a consistent winner? ? (I kid) I know your kid. But you know what I mean. If you are winning the entire I am not going to Buffalo thing goes away. Edited March 8, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: I have been vocal during the good times as well. I am sorry you just ignore them. I was hyper critical of Tyrod and turned you and the contingent against my takes. Well turns out I was right. It is OK. So not I am seeing the same thing from a coaching staff that they HAVE NO CLUE on the offensive side of the football. I point thay out and again the contingent comes back. So I guess it will be seen if I am right or wrong again. Lots of people are critical of the team. Just don’t regurgitate the same point 10x and you will get more productive responses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 what draft picks did the bills offer to pit for AB ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I have been vocal during the good times as well. I am sorry you just ignore them. I was hyper critical of Tyrod and turned you and the contingent against my takes. Well turns out I was right. It is OK. So not I am seeing the same thing from a coaching staff that they HAVE NO CLUE on the offensive side of the football. I point thay out and again the contingent comes back. So I guess it will be seen if I am right or wrong again. Did not once backpeddle my point in this in this thread from the jump I know your kid. But you know what I mean. If you are winning the entire I am not going to Buffalo thing goes away. You clearly missed the points of what I wrote. All good, you don't have to take the feedback, Im no one special. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 59 minutes ago, Logic said: The thing that drives me nuts about people knocking the city of Buffalo is that you never hear the same sort of crap about Cincy, Cleveland, or Pittsburgh, all of which are EASILY as "bad" as Buffalo. And as for the cold weather, people never seem to complain about Green Bay being "Siberia", despite the fact that I'd be willing to bet it has more snow games than Buffalo or at least an equal amount. You forgot Detroit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, papazoid said: what draft picks did the bills offer to pit for AB ? Reports are flipped 1st and added a 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 If the Bills have zero clue on offense, then they have less than zero in talent on that side of the ball for us to fairly evaluate that idea. I’ll say this though, after the bye and especially after Allen returned to the lineup, we saw Daboll running different schemes than we saw previously. Tells me he has at least a little bit of a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I have been vocal during the good times as well. I am sorry you just ignore them. I was hyper critical of Tyrod and turned you and the contingent against my takes. Well turns out I was right. It is OK. So not I am seeing the same thing from a coaching staff that they HAVE NO CLUE on the offensive side of the football. I point thay out and again the contingent comes back. So I guess it will be seen if I am right or wrong again. Did not once backpeddle my point in this in this thread from the jump I know your kid. But you know what I mean. If you are winning the entire I am not going to Buffalo thing goes away. Just maybe say try something once, and then know that you're opinion is out there. Its ok if people don't disagree with you. You even turn people off who agreed with you because you have no regulator and just spam the same thing over and over. Try dialing it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) WGR on I wanna hear Schopp and Bulldog takes ahhh Schopp is off today boooo Edited March 8, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 hours ago, iinii said: Nots as long as Pegs’, Kraft’s or Jerry’s. That is for sure I think you’re confusing service contracts and investments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I have not the time or inclination to slog through all of this thread to see if anyone is as misguided as me, but do you think Robert Kraft put Brown up to this to divert attention away from other news? ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: WGR on I wanna hear Schopp and Bulldog takes ahhh Schopp is off today boooo On vaca but still living rent free in your head. Who cares what they say? It isn’t any better or worse than what’s been said in this thread already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydboy12 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Only one way for a market like Buffalo to succeed. Through the draft. Management should have never sniffed around a guy like this, much like the TO situation. Focus should be on the draft. If you can sign an OL or 2 in free agency who doesn't care about the limelight even better. The talk of building a culture is ridiculed but it's of paramount importance to a franchise like Buffalo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Probably 50+ pages arguing why this didn't happen. Great week for this fan bases' inferiority complex 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 “Trade me, let’s find out” “I meant to another team with a HoF QB” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: You strike me as someone who has never cheated or been cheated on. You just seem to have a complete lack of awareness on the subject. You strike me as someone who says this a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: You strike me as someone who says this a lot. Not really. It isn't always so obvious that someone has no personal experience on a topic they feel so comfortable sounding off on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, QCity said: Probably 50+ pages arguing why this didn't happen. Great week for this fan bases' inferiority complex This is a legendary thread. It has all of the Bills fans' emotional range packed in one, super long, mostly off-topic thread. Excitement, denial, disappointment, anger, relief, embarrassment... and more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Is it ok to just say F Antonio Brown forever and keep it moving? I agree with the posters who wrote that we should find our own Antonio Brown through the draft instead of relying on someone else's groomed player... We never should have been in this situation where players "decide" they don't wanna play for us. It's hard not to feel disrespected honestly. Whether you wanted us to acquire Brown or not, the fact that a player who an organization is negotiating to acquire decides he doesn't want to play for them is disrespectful even though it's a "business". I fully understand how the NFL is a business and that word business gets thrown around in the league and in other sports. But what gets me aggravated is that the players seemed to have forgotten what it took to get to the NFL. I doubt his parents said, you're gonna go to school and become an NFL player. Players forgot about having fun. It's not your typical "business" we're talking about when we talk about sports. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: What I would like to commend Beane for is not hanging onto this thing like a dog hangs onto the last part of a bone being ripped away from him........and not getting the focus turned around and hitting free agency/other trades hard. They make a stab at it.....it didnt work out....onto the next player.....I dont care if AB is the best WR in the league now....I care about adding talent to this team......and maybe...JUST maybe when Josh Allen is throwing bombs to whoever we DO get and Antonio Brown is spirling out down the bunny hole as the years progress Brown looks back at what could have been for him.....but its all water off a ducks back now. Next player please I was kind of pissed he swung at this pitch to begin with, because there is a bit to much diva in AB for my taste. I get the idea of kicking the tires on a proven commodity. Still, I am glad he walked away from the deal. And you are right, when the Bills do find that receiver who does fit our team needs (without creating a host of other issues), maybe then AB will be able to watch the highlights of that guy catching 60 yard bombs from Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, WideNine said: Still, I am glad he walked away from the deal. Previous regimes would have thrown good money after bad to make this happen. I'm glad we had a point and drew line in the sand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said: The process needs to add some offensive talent or they'll be no more process to stick too.? I’ll file this under breaking news lol ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 hours ago, jkirchofer said: Yes, because we are the only team with cap space. Forgot about that. Gotta find folks to fit that locker room culture. I guess I should check the free agents to see what Carolina receivers are available. And by fine, I assume you mean 7-9, because that seems to be the gold standard at One Bills Drive. With all due respect, that’s absolutely not what was meant by my post. Do you really think that someone like me who came of age with the Kelly led Bills (my avatar I know is cryptic on this point) is fine with heroic marches” to 7-9?? Please. 13-3 is more my thing. What I will do however, is give deferential benefit of the doubt to the first regime in a friggin generation that got us into the playoffs and have at least a long term plan in place and a promising young franchise QB to boot. That said, I think we both want to see the same thing this year—big steps forward on O. How we get there? Reasonable people can agree to disagree, that’s part of the fun, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jkirchofer Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: With all due respect, that’s absolutely not what was meant by my post. Do you really think that someone like me who came of age with the Kelly led Bills (my avatar I know is cryptic on this point) is fine with heroic marches” to 7-9?? Please. 13-3 is more my thing. What I will do however, is give deferential benefit of the doubt to the first regime in a friggin generation that got us into the playoffs and have at least a long term plan in place and a promising young franchise QB to boot. That said, I think we both want to see the same thing this year—big steps forward on O. How we get there? Reasonable people can agree to disagree, that’s part of the fun, right? You are absolutely right, we both want this team to win and improve. As much as I think this is the best front office we have had in a very long time, I worry about their ability to evaluate talent on the offensive side of the ball. All problems with Antonio Brown aside, he is a known talent. You know what he is capable of and what he brings outside of the Bills. At this point, I would rather pay for the known talent instead of trying to hit pay dirt in the draft, because let's be honest...Josh Allen, as much as we love him in Buffalo, remains a questionable pick. They have also done nothing outside of bring in former Panthers to improve the offense. They have to overpay at this point. They don't have the luxury of falling back on a winning or productive track record or being an attractive free agent landing spot. But, regardless, I remain a Bills fan for life just like the rest of you. Let's Go Bills! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I think many players feel this way-Buffalo is a nice place to live just not as exciting as NYC or LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 This will probably be very unpopular, but I think the only way to overcome the weather/small market impediments is to draft/acquire players with cache. I know many fans my age don't like some of the younger fellas antics, but those kind of players will make Buffalo a more attractive free agent destination. And I fully agree with the poster who cited the social media mockery of the situation potentially factoring into Brown's decision. Of course winning is the ultimate cure all, but winning requires talent. Every team needs a couple dirtbags and a couple characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 22 minutes ago, jkirchofer said: You are absolutely right, we both want this team to win and improve. As much as I think this is the best front office we have had in a very long time, I worry about their ability to evaluate talent on the offensive side of the ball. All problems with Antonio Brown aside, he is a known talent. You know what he is capable of and what he brings outside of the Bills. At this point, I would rather pay for the known talent instead of trying to hit pay dirt in the draft, because let's be honest...Josh Allen, as much as we love him in Buffalo, remains a questionable pick. They have also done nothing outside of bring in former Panthers to improve the offense. They have to overpay at this point. They don't have the luxury of falling back on a winning or productive track record or being an attractive free agent landing spot. But, regardless, I remain a Bills fan for life just like the rest of you. Let's Go Bills! Yep. And that’s precisely the problem with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: 18 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I love Buffalo. But..... guys like Shawn Merriman and Kyle Williams and LorAx are not gonna change this perception by tweeting. Guys who are young, like Landon Collins, are laughing at memes about AB getting traded there. 35 year old dudes saying its not so bad ARE NOT reaching younger dudes. They just aren't. Shady is younger than them both, and closer in maturity to the young guys, was traded here in his prime and ACTIVELY RECRUITED GUYS, and we got...... no one. It's time to face facts, like we do every time we have tremendous cap space every 4-5 years. NFL. Players. Don't. Want. To. Come. Here. The only way to seriously compete with the Rams or any other team in FA is to have a great QB and a great team. Period. No amount of "Buffalo is so awesome!!!!" from JimKelly#1Fan is going to replace that. Edited March 8, 2019 by BringBackOrton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 34 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Literally forgot this guy existed until just this moment... The memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Boca BIlls Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 11 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: What do you know? Are you just saying things because you don't want the glass house you live in smashed because your idols don't hold true that same stuff you do? Only one reporting differently is Rapsheet. What does this glass house stuff have to do with AB and the Bills rumors? Make some sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: I used to hate Schein....but lately he's been bullish on the Bills...so now I like him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 10 hours ago, ExWNYer said: HTH do you know that he would never come to Buffalo?? He said it himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: I disagree with Schein. Anotnio Brown was a Hall of Fame clown BEFORE he turned down a trade to Buffalo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Real McClappy Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Reed83HOF said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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