DJB Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Im looking forward to Antonio Brown Bills appreciation day . I wonder what week that will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Getting spicy up in here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 49 minutes ago, Logic said: Good for you, chief! I go to bed at 9 because I start work at 5am. I don't have a smart phone and, thus, don't receive notifications about football. Just weird that you mentioned west coast when we’re 3 hours behind everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 26 minutes ago, Figster said: Quit, or knew his body needed a little time to heal? I mean considering A B was the most productive player on the Steelers O which stands to reason AB was working the hardest. How about a little respect from the idiot HC? Two sides to the story IMO K-9 Quitter. Be real. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 23 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: If you read everything I wrote on it I am not upset AB said Nope. I understand why he said Nope and refuse to flame him for that, it just seems that makes me the bad guy here again. Not the "bad" guy but the unreasonable guy, not unlike many fans. So you are in good company. Unreasonable because the past ineptitude with this organization has very little to do with this current regime. This current regime had a plan to begin with and anyone who read in between the lines and can actually view them from the actions they have committed can see that they unloaded a lot of the "talent" this team had because it didn't fit what they believe their team should field. We can judge them reasonably in the next year or two to see whether or not they made the right decisions with some of the people they traded away or decided not to pick up. But it's clear they wanted to instill their defense and search for a franchise QB in the first couple two years. From most accounts, the defense is on very solid footing and there is certainly a lot of hope with what we've seen from Josh Allen. They now have lots of money and draft capital to shore up the team. Rather than applaud the FO for kicking the tires on AB, you'd rather focus your ire on Beane and company and have them pay for the past sins of this organization and criticize a somewhat raw hopeful rookie for not tearing it up with passing stats is unreasonable. When you say "where WR"s go to die" and use that as a hammer to bludgeon this FO that is another unreasonable statement. Why? Because the QB they had in year one (Tyrod) was part of that problem and this FO acted quickly on it and made all sorts of trades to get the draft capital to get THEIR guy. So that "where WR's go to die" trope is not relevant to this FO. That's why you are getting the criticism and deservedly so. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Jay_Fixit said: Just weird that you mentioned west coast when we’re 3 hours behind everything else. Fair enough. I was thinking of it from a "waking up" perspective, and less so from a "going to bed" perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: every year someone leaves. ahhh they sucked. Look at well lets say Woods. Every year it is just the same thing, talent leaving this team and the fan base eating it up. I have been on record since this Regime came into Bills there was absolutely zero need to throw the baby out with the bath water, liked they chose too. But what happens all these same fans defend it. Then use the excuse of wait until they have cap space, well they cause the cap issue last year. So I wait. I am going on year not THREE waiting to see what a legacy defensive coach and his puppet GM that preach family and DNA and Culture actually put on the offensive side of the field, because well it has been Laughable now for two years. guess year is a charm. o will it be this time next offseason with the same fans telling me I am BLIND to what they are building? They put their young QB on the field. The one that showed a lot of promise. The one that was drafted higher than any QB in team history. But of course that's ignored. I applaud you service for our country. But as a Bills fan you're a joke. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Logic said: Fair enough. I was thinking of it from a "waking up" perspective, and less so from a "going to bed" perspective. I dig it brotha. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Magox said: Not the "bad" guy but the unreasonable guy, not unlike many fans. So you are in good company. Unreasonable because the past ineptitude with this organization has very little to do with this current regime. This current regime had a plan to begin with and anyone who read in between the lines and can actually view them from the actions they have committed can see that they unloaded a lot of the "talent" this team had because it didn't fit what they believe their team should field. We can judge them reasonably in the next year or two to see whether or not they made the right decisions with some of the people they traded away or decided not to pick up. But it's clear they wanted to instill their defense and search for a franchise QB in the first couple two years. From most accounts, the defense is on very solid footing and there is certainly a lot of hope with what we've seen from Josh Allen. They now have lots of money and draft capital to shore up the team. Rather than applaud the FO for kicking the tires on AB, you'd rather focus your ire on Beane and company and have them pay for the past sins of this organization and criticize a somewhat raw hopeful rookie for not tearing it up with passing stats is unreasonable. When you say "where WR"s go to die" and use that as a hammer to bludgeon this FO that is another unreasonable statement. Why? Because the QB they had in year one (Tyrod) was part of that problem and this FO acted quickly on it and made all sorts of trades to get the draft capital to get THEIR guy. So that "where WR's go to die" trope is not relevant to this FO. That's why you are getting the criticism and deservedly so. Again do you think AB cares about what may be on the future, with a Unknown at QB. I never ONCE has said this regime is the blame for the perception that Buffalo is the place where WR go to die. I said that is based on history and the current perception in the league. My question that everyone that wants to call me negative or incoherent or whatever other thing they can say to avoid answering the question. In two years has this regime done ANYTHING on offense that would inspire a WR to look at the new regime and say OK that is NOT a place that WR go to die. And instead actually want to come here. I get it, I know why and am happy the Bills went after AB. I also get it and no why AB said NO. what the other people here refuse to see is why he would say No Edited March 8, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: They put their young QB on the field. The one that showed a lot of promise. The one that was drafted higher than any QB in team history. But of course that's ignored. I applaud you service for our country. But as a Bills fan you're a joke. Glad I'm not the only person here with that opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: They put their young QB on the field. The one that showed a lot of promise. The one that was drafted higher than any QB in team history. But of course that's ignored. I applaud you service for our country. But as a Bills fan you're a joke. Again WHAT has JOSH ALLEN done to have WRs like AB say ok yep I am going there. AVG Less than 200 yards a game More INTS than TDs They took a step maybe (only if Allen improves) But in terms of a WR to look at Allen and see anything other than a big ? you are naive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 This better still happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Glad I'm not the only person here with that opinion. Yes the typical you are not a fan because you are pointing out something negative about the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Again WHAT has JOSH ALLEN done to have WRs like AB say ok yep I am going there. AVG Less than 200 yards a game More INTS than TDs They took a step maybe (only if Allen improves) But in terms of a WR to look at Allen and see anything other than a big ? you are naive Did you actually watch our games or are you just regurgitating box scores? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 25 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't agree. I still think he got separation and he was the best player on the Steelers again. I think any perceived production drop off (and the guy scored 15 TDs for crying out loud) should be attributed entirely to a Steelers offense that seemed to lose a sense of its identity in 2018. Without Lev Bell they started the season with no balance, throwing the ball all around the field then they decided that wasn't working and force fed Conner for 4 or 5 weeks and then by the time they hit the stretch run they were a mess of an offense relying entirely on talent and not really doing anything well schematically. They got away from themselves in trying to adjust to losing the best back in football. And in indulging Big Ben's propensity to blame everyone else when things go south they have cost themselves the best receiver in football too. I’m not saying he isn’t still good. He was probably the 4th best WR behind Thomas, Hopkins, and Hill. Prior to that he was the consensus best WR in the game. He still has a couple good years left too. When you get into year 4 and 5 of his next deal you will have some regrets if he didn’t get you a Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, SCBills said: Did you actually watch our games or are you just regurgitating box scores? Do you think AB actually cares if he ran all over the place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, K-9 said: It was his, and HIS ALONE, decision to QUIT. I don't care how much of an A Hole his coach is. I don't care how much of a douche Big Ben is. Antonio Brown decided to QUIT on his teammates, coaches, and fans during a playoff chase. Period. And that is exactly the issue, he put himself above the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, Magox said: Not the "bad" guy but the unreasonable guy, not unlike many fans. So you are in good company. Unreasonable because the past ineptitude with this organization has very little to do with this current regime. This current regime had a plan to begin with and anyone who read in between the lines and can actually view them from the actions they have committed can see that they unloaded a lot of the "talent" this team had because it didn't fit what they believe their team should field. We can judge them reasonably in the next year or two to see whether or not they made the right decisions with some of the people they traded away or decided not to pick up. But it's clear they wanted to instill their defense and search for a franchise QB in the first couple two years. From most accounts, the defense is on very solid footing and there is certainly a lot of hope with what we've seen from Josh Allen. They now have lots of money and draft capital to shore up the team. Rather than applaud the FO for kicking the tires on AB, you'd rather focus your ire on Beane and company and have them pay for the past sins of this organization and criticize a somewhat raw hopeful rookie for not tearing it up with passing stats is unreasonable. When you say "where WR"s go to die" and use that as a hammer to bludgeon this FO that is another unreasonable statement. Why? Because the QB they had in year one (Tyrod) was part of that problem and this FO acted quickly on it and made all sorts of trades to get the draft capital to get THEIR guy. So that "where WR's go to die" trope is not relevant to this FO. That's why you are getting the criticism and deservedly so. Great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, billspro said: I’m not saying he isn’t still good. He was probably the 4th best WR behind Thomas, Hopkins, and Hill. Prior to that he was the consensus best WR in the game. He still has a couple good years left too. When you get into year 4 and 5 of his next deal you will have some regrets if he didn’t get you a Super Bowl. Don’t sleep on Davante! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: Again do you think AB cares about what may be on the future, with a Unknown at QB. I never ONCE has said this regime is the blame for the perception that Buffalo is the place where WR go to die. I said that is based on history and the current perception in the league. My question that everyone that wants to call me negative or incoherent or whatever other thing they can say to avoid answering the question. In two years has this regime done ANYTHING on offense that would inspire a WR to look at the new regime and say OK that is NOT a place that WR go to die Welcome back MAJ. Where I definitely agree with your previous post (couldn't find it to quote) is that they didn't have to commit to a tear down. I don't particularly disagree with their decision to tear it down but some around here act like they had no choice. And there was a choice. They inherited a .500 team over the previous 3 years and could have tried to re-load from there, but they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Do you think AB actually cares if he ran all over the place? I'm more talking about passes AB would catch that our WR's not named "Robert Foster post-demotion", dropped or gave up on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: He'll be in soon. And we all know what his take will be. I’m assuming he’s being held against his will since he hasn’t shown up yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, Magox said: Not the "bad" guy but the unreasonable guy, not unlike many fans. So you are in good company. Unreasonable because the past ineptitude with this organization has very little to do with this current regime. This current regime had a plan to begin with and anyone who read in between the lines and can actually view them from the actions they have committed can see that they unloaded a lot of the "talent" this team had because it didn't fit what they believe their team should field. We can judge them reasonably in the next year or two to see whether or not they made the right decisions with some of the people they traded away or decided not to pick up. But it's clear they wanted to instill their defense and search for a franchise QB in the first couple two years. From most accounts, the defense is on very solid footing and there is certainly a lot of hope with what we've seen from Josh Allen. They now have lots of money and draft capital to shore up the team. Rather than applaud the FO for kicking the tires on AB, you'd rather focus your ire on Beane and company and have them pay for the past sins of this organization and criticize a somewhat raw hopeful rookie for not tearing it up with passing stats is unreasonable. When you say "where WR"s go to die" and use that as a hammer to bludgeon this FO that is another unreasonable statement. Why? Because the QB they had in year one (Tyrod) was part of that problem and this FO acted quickly on it and made all sorts of trades to get the draft capital to get THEIR guy. So that "where WR's go to die" trope is not relevant to this FO. That's why you are getting the criticism and deservedly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Again WHAT has JOSH ALLEN done to have WRs like AB say ok yep I am going there. AVG Less than 200 yards a game More INTS than TDs They took a step maybe (only if Allen improves) But in terms of a WR to look at Allen and see anything other than a big ? you are naive Big armed QB that can deliver the ball downfield. You asked what the current regime had done for the offense, you are told, and then you change your argument. Again thanks for your service but your posts and opinions about the team are a joke. No matter what they do you spin it negatively. If Briwn had signed you'd be posting about how they don't really believe in their process. We know what you're doing. And it's pathetic at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 12 hours ago, BuffaloBud420 said: He could kill Allen's career with his attitude. Horrible move. I wouldn't take him for free. I completely agree. The guy is dishonorable and will throw the team under the bus. I am relieved this fell thru. Looks like AB told the bIlls to stuff it. Now I have less respect for Beane though, as that is exactly what I expected from a POS like AB. This guy needed to be avoided... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, SCBills said: I'm more talking about passes AB would catch that our WR's not named "Robert Foster post-demotion", dropped or gave up on. Do you think he looks at that and says 7 more TGTs? No he has been in the league for 8 years. 8 years of watching the same story in Buffalo in terms of WR utilization. Again I am not blaming this regime for the entire history but they do have 2 years of that history with still to include a Historically bad Offense under their belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Honestly, no matter where you come down on this deal happening or not, you have to admit that a huge loss in this is that we can't pencil that @ Pit game in as a SNF game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: Big armed QB that can deliver the ball downfield. You asked what the current regime had done for the offense, you are told, and then you change your argument. Again thanks for your service but your posts and opinions about the team are a joke. No matter what they do you spin it negatively. If Briwn had signed you'd be posting about how they don't really believe in their process. We know what you're doing. And it's pathetic at this point. Again based off that ONE year what has Allen shown other than he is a ??? If Brown came here I would be excited that their MOVES are finally tracking what their talking points are They SHELVED the Offense for 2 years. Lets wee what they do year three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 33 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Yeah I am sure the Best ever TE to play the game is just a roll guy. Yeah I guess we don't need game breakers. I have heard that now for two decades as well So just complaining about our last 2 decades? Been there myself. Not sold that Gronk would have made the same impact as a Bill, but that is just my opinion considering our GMs, coaching, and QB capabilities. Moving on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Again based off that ONE year what has Allen shown other than he is a ??? If Brown came here I would be excited that their MOVES are finally tracking what their talking points are They SHELVED the Offense for 2 years. Lets wee what they do year three If they hadn't drafted Allen you'd be all over them. They draft their young QB and that's wrong too. Your act is tiresome. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, oldmanfan said: If they hadn't drafted Allen you'd be all over them. They draft their young QB and that's wrong too. Your act is tiresome. Yep I would have been all over them for not drafting a QB. Just like I was when they didn't draft Mahomes. I also said they drafted the wrong Josh come draft time, but I am not bashing Allen am I? I am just saying right now to date he hasn't proven anything to flip years of perception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 My only hope at this point is that in 5 years when AB is at the end of his career and looking to sign with a team the Bills offer him a huge deal and when he comes in to sign they pull the contract away and say, "Nevermind, we're just remembered you don't want to play here. " 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: Yep I would have been all over them for not drafting a QB. Just like I was when they didn't draft Mahomes. I also said they drafted the wrong Josh come draft time, but I am not bashing Allen am I? I am just saying right now to date he hasn't proven anything to flip years of perception. Yawn. Same old stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, oldmanfan said: Yawn. Same old stuff. Same old three posters coming after someone because they say it like it is. I am sorry that people don't like the truth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 22 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Again WHAT has JOSH ALLEN done to have WRs like AB say ok yep I am going there. AVG Less than 200 yards a game More INTS than TDs They took a step maybe (only if Allen improves) But in terms of a WR to look at Allen and see anything other than a big ? you are naive AB did not make a football choice. We all know it. That's why people are mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Same old three posters coming after someone because they say it like it is. I am sorry that people don't like the truth. Yawn again. What criticism will you have when they win the Lombardi? Because we all know you'll have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, oldmanfan said: Yawn again. What criticism will you have when they win the Lombardi? Because we all know you'll have one. And by "we all" you mean us three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/08/antonio-brown-steelers-bills-failed-trade-fallout Brown may not want to go to Buffalo, but there’s more to it than the locale. Another team involved in trade discussions earlier in the week, I’m told, walked because it was communicated to them that Brown wanted, again, to be the NFL’s highest-paid receiver under a new contract. My understanding is money was a factor for the Bills, too. How the Bills’ talks went down help to illustrate that. Buffalo first inquired about Brown on Tuesday, and talks went in a positive direction between the two teams from there. Positive enough, in fact, that the Bills got permission to discuss the deal with Brown’s agent, Drew Rosenhaus. By early Friday morning, things had come undone. How? Two things had to come together for a deal to be done: the trade comp had to be agreed to—and I’m told the sides were in the ballpark on that—and the team acquiring the player has to make sure everything’s right with the player (a process that would eventually, for example, include a physical), and it wasn’t. The Bills could have offered Brown more than Odell Beckham Jr. is getting in New York, as the NFL’s most richly compensated receiver, and maybe that would’ve convinced Brown to play there. They didn’t offer that, and the deal is now dead. Edited March 8, 2019 by Reed83HOF 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D521646 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Dodged a bullet... I don't get why our fans wanted this guy.. I am SOOOO Glad this deal got nixed. Tim- 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: And by "we all" you mean us three Three thousand more like. You don't think everyone here knows what you're trying to do here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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