NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Meh, it’s all good. Would’ve probably ended up as a one year rental that couldn’t really be built around, more drama after the shine wears off than worthwhile. Nonetheless I applaud the Bills for kicking tires where they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Buddy Hix said: I agree that AJ and Julio are more teams friendly guys but they both want success. Despite all of us on here being fans, can anyone of us say we expect success from this team in the near future? We are all hoping for success but what is a realistic projection for wins next year? What are the chances the Bills win the division? And I’m talking team success, which would rely heavily on the D to move them forward. Why would AJ or Julio entertain playing for this O? McBeane neglected the O so badly it needs a complete overhaul and it’s cornerstone is an unproven QB who may or may not be something. If I’m a desired skill position player, Buffalo and Zona are the absolute last teams I want to go to. I think if AJ or Julio was acquired by Buffalo - they would probably want to negotiate extensions sure. But i think both would show up to work as well - they seem to be professionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I think Beane and Bills come out looking very good. Shows to everyone the Bills are serious about building a winner. Dudes who don’t want to be a part of it... onto the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: I don't see any reason why a guy like AJ Green or Julio would have a problem coming here. But guys like AB and Odell are about making themselves bigger than the game and Buffalo is pretty much the hardest place in the league to do that. We all thought that about TO and that really wasn't the case. (I do entirely agree with you though LOL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, dneveu said: See i disagree on this. I think he wants fame and fortune more than a ring. If all he cared about was a ring he'd probably just stay in pittsburgh - they make the playoffs fairly consistently. They were pretty close in 2018 (their last 3 losses by a total of 9 points, and a tie to cleveland). He does seem to want the celebrity, wasn't he on that masked singer show? Buffalo is a small market so there is that i suppose. The guy is a diva and i'm not sad we didn't get him, my blood ran cold when i saw the news this morning and i was worried we had given up a first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Getting rid of a bund of high cost players who underperform their contracts (Darius for one) is part of it. We paid the price for Overdorf's terrible contracts last year. Nobody said anything about a culture of swell guys, just guys who actually care about football and the team and put it before themselves. It has been 2 YEARS...at least give them this year with $80M in cap space and 10 draft picks. the extra picks are what rounds 4-7? also, you just said they got rid of guys that were overpaid. They tried to bring in a guy and pay him, he said no thanks. What do you think is going to happen in UFA this year? The Bills are going to have to overpay to bring in the top talent that is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: My wife is a teacher (at a charter school though) and has definitely influenced hiring. Not quite by saying I wouldn't work with so and so, but she told her boss a candidate would not be a good fit, and that person didn't get hired. I think you would be surprised. And don't get me wrong...I love my boss and I love what I do, but personal stuff just is not taken into account where I am and I don't think it should really. Edited March 8, 2019 by MrEpsYtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I’m always hoping for a breakout year and the Bills win at least 12 games or so. NOW, I’m adding another layer of hope: I hope AB goes to a team expected to win 12 games, but for whatever reason....they fall off a cliff and win about 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, dneveu said: I think if AJ or Julio was acquired by Buffalo - they would probably want to negotiate extensions sure. But i think both would show up to work as well - they seem to be professionals. The same Julio who sat out the offseason last year trying to get Atlanta to get him a new contract.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Sad we're not getting that type of talent in here, happy we're not getting everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Sign John Brown, draft Kelvin Harmon in rd 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, CountDorkula said: The same Julio who sat out the offseason last year trying to get Atlanta to get him a new contract.... I think if we made it a sign/trade and made him the highest paid WR in football he would show up to work. His current contract has him paid along the lines of allen robinson. Edited March 8, 2019 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Let me tell you where you are wrong. 1. History has NO relevancy with THIS regime. You can piss and moan all you want, it’s a complete waste of time to bring up things that have ZERO to do with this regime. The only thing relevant is what Beane and McD do. 2. You also are not even remotely close to accurately recounting Beane and McDs time here. You LOVE to revel in negativity, in fact, you barely post here unless there is something negative to be all whiney about compared to the non stop posting you do when you say see Dr. Negative Bat Signal in the sky. So so that’s why people tell you to go be a fan somewhere else, because you don’t post like a fan. You post more like a scorned ex lover. History does have relevancy with THIS regime. Players have the perception. That is based on History. And to date this regime has done NOTHING to change that in terms of the waste land that is WR usage in Buffalo. So when a WR says No. yes HISTORY has a play. It is on this regime to change that, and to date have they? NOPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I’m all for putting weapons around him and seeing what he can do. I believe it will only help his development. If for whatever reason he doesn’t pan out then we move on to the next guy. And this is exactly the problem when trying to sign top WR talent. If you are a WR looking to make a name for himself to get the big $$$ contract or someone looking for a ring, are you going to bet on Josh Allen learning to be an accurate passer, and the Buffalo Bills, toilet bowl dwellers for the past 2 decades, building an offensive line? Or more directly to your point, would you be willing to be one of the WRs the Bills put around Josh Allen to see *if* he is the guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: History does have relevancy with THIS regime. Players have the perception. That is based on History. And to date this regime has done NOTHING to change that in terms of the waste land that is WR usage in Buffalo. So when a WR says No. yes HISTORY has a play. It is on this regime to change that, and to date have they? NOPE Im not sure if I want a WR that doesnt understand a change (and a big one) has been made behind center. Josh Allen can throw the ball ANYWHERE on the field......and a WR can only benefit from that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Im not sure if I want a WR that doesnt understand a change (and a big one) has been made behind center. Josh Allen can throw the ball ANYWHERE on the field......and a WR can only benefit from that especially one that has made a living off his qb extending plays. Edited March 8, 2019 by Stank_Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, Jasovon said: We need Josh Allen to be a franchise QB, that's all that matters. Look at the Rams and Browns, utter laughing stocks noone wanted to go anywhere near until they got their QB. My concern is it could be a while before the media actually allows Allen to be seen as a good QB. Allen being a good QB goes back to the GM and HC: give him players to help him grown and the coaches have to develop him and the team around him. The perception around the league of TP as an owner isn't that much different than RW at this point. Marrone took his money and ran, Rexy there isn't much to say and you can even look at the Sabres as well. McD and Bean got 6 wins out of a team that should have won 3 games last year. They need to improve it this year and start changing the perception; once the tide starts turning, it won't be as much as an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, John from Riverside said: Im not sure if I want a WR that doesnt understand a change (and a big one) has been made behind center. Josh Allen can throw the ball ANYWHERE on the field......and a WR can only benefit from that And yet to date he really hasn't proven anything right? So a WR on the back end of his career saying No to a regime that has historically been bad utilizing the WR and a QB that might or might not be good is not unfathomable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Edelman there that was easy Some games yes. Against the Bills, they ran all over us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, John from Riverside said: Im not sure if I want a WR that doesnt understand a change (and a big one) has been made behind center. Josh Allen can throw the ball ANYWHERE on the field......and a WR can only benefit from that If the player were motivated by football this might matter. He's motivated by being famous, and being rich. We could only really get him rich. His jersey wouldn't be in the top 25 of league sales in buffalo, he wouldn't get national coverage in buffalo, he wouldn't be in line to be on the fox morning show after he retires - or be on dancing with the stars - etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: And yet to date he really hasn't proven anything right? So a WR on the back end of his career saying No to a regime that has historically been bad utilizing the WR and a QB that might or might not be good is not unfathomable Personally I am not heartbroken this didnt happen..... I dont really care about the name I want to accumulate talent this offseason......and Antonio Brown would have had the keys to the city here.....and a rookie QB that would have done pretty much whatever he wanted. Beane will find another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Alright we need to go back to talking about centers and right tackles! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Jasovon said: My concern is it could be a while before the media actually allows Allen to be seen as a good QB. Why do people think the media has it out for Buffalo or the Bills? If Allen is good then he will be acknowledged as such. I see the media talking highly of Baker Mayfield and the Browns have been just as much of a joke as we have.....and it’s still Cleveland. Edited March 8, 2019 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: I live on the west coast and don’t go to bed at 8:30pm. Good for you, chief! I go to bed at 9 because I start work at 5am. I don't have a smart phone and, thus, don't receive notifications about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: the extra picks are what rounds 4-7? also, you just said they got rid of guys that were overpaid. They tried to bring in a guy and pay him, he said no thanks. What do you think is going to happen in UFA this year? The Bills are going to have to overpay to bring in the top talent that is needed. I'm glad the guy that just said no thanks will not sign here. If he doesn't want to be here, then go elsewhere. The Steelers have a real head case on their hands...talented, but a head case. You overpay every year in FA, that's that nature of FA. What is your point? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) Reading some of these over-the-top comments is ?. Before this rumor came about thinking with a clear mind without the emotion I didnt believe a trade for AB made sense on a number of levels: A) He is 31 years old B) He is a very selfish player that undoubtedly creates risk for the team if things dont start going HIS way. C) He would have cost this team a 1st round draft choice. D) This is a deep draft for WR's E) There are some good FA slot WRs available that wouldn't necessitate us trading away high draft capital and that would cost the team much less in salary cap room. F) AB reportedly wants to renegotiate his contract to the highest paid WR in the league. G) He allegedly doesnt want to be a Bill Sure, when I heard the news that he may be coming the emotion of an elite talent excites you and if the trade would have happened I would have gotten behind it. But when you strip out the emotion and look at this logically, this move wouldn't have made sense for this organization at this time. Edited March 8, 2019 by Magox 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: And don't get me wrong...I love my boss and I love what I do, but personal stuff just is not taken into account where I am and I don't think it should really. That's fair, but this isn't "I don't get along with that guy." This is "that guy slept with my wife, please don't hire him." That's huge. I don't think personal stuff can be generalized into one large category. There are degrees of offenses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Edelman there that was easy Fair enough. ...and when Edelman was out all of 2017 NE did not win games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 38 minutes ago, One Buffalo said: I like what Sal says here- Quote A “hear we go again” mentality of fans who have constantly been told by outsiders that Buffalo is a place no one - especially big-time stars - want to play. "hear we go again" That sounds like a TBDism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said: And this is exactly the problem when trying to sign top WR talent. If you are a WR looking to make a name for himself to get the big $$$ contract or someone looking for a ring, are you going to bet on Josh Allen learning to be an accurate passer, and the Buffalo Bills, toilet bowl dwellers for the past 2 decades, building an offensive line? Or more directly to your point, would you be willing to be one of the WRs the Bills put around Josh Allen to see *if* he is the guy? When I first heard of this last night my gut reaction was it's a little "cart before the horse" kinda thing. Maybe the Bills offense isn't quite up to speed for a temperamental WR albeit arguably the best WR in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Magox said: Reading some of these over-the-top comments is ?. Before this rumor came about thinking with a clear mind without the emotion I didnt believe a trade for AB made sense on a number of levels: A) He is 31 years old B) He is a very selfish player that undoubtedly creates risk for the team if things dont start going HIS way. C) He would have cost this team a 1st round draft choice. D) This is a deep draft for WR's E) There are some good FA slot WRs available that wouldn't necessitate us trading away high draft capital and that would cost the team much less in salary cap room. F) AB reportedly wants to renegotiate his contract to the highest paid WR in the league. G) He allegedly doesnt want to be a Bill Sure, when I heard the news that he may be coming the emotion of an elite talent excites you and if the trade would have happened I would have gotten behind it. But when you strip out the emotion and look at this logically, this move wouldn't have made sense for this organization at this time. This all makes sense, yet our organization apparently thought otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, SWATeam said: This all makes sense, yet our organization apparently thought otherwise. From what I read when they realized AB didnt want to be a Bill they didnt go through with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricko1112 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 41 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: I'd think much less of Josh Allen if he let's a WR ruin his career tbh. That's on JA to navigate the NFL world full of egos and star power and leadership qualities. If your WR is b*****ing about you tell him to stfu haha. I hate the idea that JA needs to be in a fragile bubble. He's got to do what every other good quarterbacks have had to do to be successful and not fold for the flimsiest excuse that he has a cranky WR. That's asking a lot though from a young guy who hasn't done anything (yet) in the NFL. Thanks to AB, the Steelers have become a punchline. Big Boob has won 2 SBs, they're a veteran team, have a coach that is (unbelievably) in no danger of being fired, and stable ownership. Very few QBs have the cache to tell AB to pound sand. Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Wilson maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Personally I am not heartbroken this didnt happen..... I dont really care about the name I want to accumulate talent this offseason......and Antonio Brown would have had the keys to the city here.....and a rookie QB that would have done pretty much whatever he wanted. Beane will find another If you read everything I wrote on it I am not upset AB said Nope. I understand why he said Nope and refuse to flame him for that, it just seems that makes me the bad guy here again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Everyone that thinks AB was a process guy raise your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I don't baby my kids like snowflakes or anything like that but I just think the way this unfolded matters and worth commenting on. So this past season my 9 year old became a huge AB/Steelers fan this year. For whatever reason. He loves football and that became his favorite player. He likes the Bills as much (obviously we're a Bills family) AB just became his favorite player. He wanted and got an AB Jersey for Christmas. The look on his face when he got it and how happy he was..... So 1 week later AB quits. Do you know how hard I tried to keep him from the real story? He would have been crushed and confused. Here he is just really getting into football and this happens. I told him he didn't play because he was hurt. And that's what he knew that is what the Steelers said at the time. And the only way he'd know if AB is getting traded is if friends are talking about it at school. This was largely why I was so excited late last night. I was picturing telling him the news this morning. Which I didnt and he was still asleep at 7am anyway when I left for work. So it got me thinking. If this news broke at 8pm last night while he was up and not 11:30 I almost certainly would have told him. He would have been thru the moon. Imagine having to explain today it didnt happen. How excited he would have been last night. Only to be crushed today. This is how gross and irresponsible all journalism has become. Rapaport jumped the gun. That was in poor taste imo. Same the entire NFL Nerwork. I'm just disappointed all around. I feel for the 8-9 year olds in Pittsburgh that are being introduced to the professional athletes they admire and cheer for in this way. I'm really disgusted. Thanks for reading....I just needed to vent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hedge said: "hear we go again" That sounds like a TBDism. For the Bills to actually become relevant Josh has to prove he is a franchise QB and the team needs to start winning. Players will be more inclined to join the Bills once that is done and the money is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, WideNine said: Fair enough. ...and when Edelman was out all of 2017 NE did not win games? another guy named Gronkowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: History does have relevancy with THIS regime. Players have the perception. That is based on History. And to date this regime has done NOTHING to change that in terms of the waste land that is WR usage in Buffalo. So when a WR says No. yes HISTORY has a play. It is on this regime to change that, and to date have they? NOPE Wrong. And you do NOT know in any way shape or form if this deal fell apart because AB didn’t want to come here. Just your negative assumption. So again, nothing you have said yet has any relevancy to this regime. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: Wrong. And you do NOT know in any way shape or form if this deal fell apart because AB didn’t want to come here. Just your negative assumption. So again, nothing you have said yet has any relevancy to this regime. Ahhh another guy that just ignores everything out there as false and assumptions because it doesn't want to fit his rosey little outlook on the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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