Teddy KGB Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 9 hours ago, JohnC said: Richie Incognito had mental health issues. I'm not aware that he had criminal or woman assault issues. He felt a cart girl up with a putter iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 7 hours ago, NewEra said: Like what? It’s a terrible draft for tackles, especially at the top of the board. It’s a terrible draft for WRs at the top of the board. Good value on both in the 2nd and 3rd rds. While rb isn’t our biggest need, it is a need and if Jacobs is the BPA when we pick, which might not be 9th, Jacobs fits the bill as a special player DT and DE are deep this year in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 15 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: This staff just strikes me as not being the type to draft a RB that high. I could be completely wrong though. I'm with you there. Fcol, they could barely bring themselves to get a guy in to spell a Full Back, when he was our only fit RB in 2017. The only way I see it happening, is if they move on from Shady prior to the draft, and unless he's cut, I don't see anyone trading anything for him atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Mountain Man said: He isn't even a round 1 worthy RB. Where the hell you been? The NFL community is in love with the kid. Way to stay informed there, Sparky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 17 hours ago, JimKellyTryouts said: I would think Damien Harris would be on their radar Rd 2-3...highly doubt we spend a first on a position that depends so much on a good OL While I would LOVE this, I don't think Harris will be there in round 2 when the Bills pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 18 hours ago, Foxx said: trenches, build the trenches. EXACTLY!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 If the Bills take a RB at 9, I will issue a mea culpa but I'm stating emphatically that there is no way that they go RB that high. The previous RBs they took in the 1st Round were under a prior ownership, front office, and HC. IMO, if this regime follows suit, that will be a clear indication that they just don't get it. They're more likely to try and move up for an edge rusher (like Allen), stay put and take a stud OL or DL, or drop down to acquire more picks...all before they would entertain a RB at 9. I think this worry is much ado about nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) Don't tell me what not to do. Edited January 24, 2019 by Royale with Cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 The way I view it, this team's highest priority - almost to the exclusion of everything else- is to build an O-Line. They need at a minimum center, tackle and guard. Only after that can they consider other position groups. Failure to at least attempt that first, all as we will get is more of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 hours ago, DCbillsfan said: DT and DE are deep this year in the first round. I guess that’s the difference. I’m not a big fan of a lot of those DL at 9. I’d be happy with Oliver, Bosa and Allen. Not a big fan of anyone else at 9. Trade down. At that point, there’s a chance that jacobs is BPA. I agree with you in the respect that there are a few positions I wouldn’t want to draft in the first rd (LB, S, QB) regardless of BPA. RB is usually on that list based on the ability to grab one later in the draft, but I just think Jacobs is that much better than all the other RBs. Jmo, of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, davspo said: The way I view it, this team's highest priority - almost to the exclusion of everything else- is to build an O-Line. They need at a minimum center, tackle and guard. Only after that can they consider other position groups. Failure to at least attempt that first, all as we will get is more of the same. ...and they have CLEARLY stated on multiple occasions that they will draft BPA. They certainly will not reach on an OL (or any other position) at 9 out of need. If there is a guy there that they think has the value of the 9th pick he will be selected. If not they will go in a different direction. Additionally, FA comes before the draft. We have no idea what the roster will look like at the end of April. They may have signed Kareem Hunt or Bell. They may have added 3 starting OL (Paradis, Saffold, Williams). They may have done any or all of this. The only position we know they won’t take at 9 is QB. Everyone else is in play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Get me Devine Ozigbo in the 3rd or 4th. That kid is 6'0 219 and is a violent, violent runner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I'm not completely opposed to getting a RB that high in the draft but it certainly isn't something that I'm predisposition to wanting to do. With that said, if a RB is a game-breaking sort of player and is an elite level runner and pass catcher and is the best player available then you do it. I will say this about Jacobs, every time I saw him play I thought he looked awesome. Super quick, a nightmare to tackle in open space, incredible balance and ripped through lots of tackles. Not to mention he was a very good receiving option for them. I think the dude is legit, not Saquon Barkley awesome but possibly close to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 19 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I too think it’s a possibility (and people will lose their minds). The scouting community LOVES Jacobs. The Bills are clearly drafting BPA (whenever they pick). It is absolutely possible. I still think it’s a defensive player but they certainly aren’t crossing anyone off at this point. I really hope they stick to BPA. People on here are hung up way too much on certain positions. If they hit on a blue chipper in the first round we'll be a better team after the draft, regardless of position. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Drafting an RB in the first with the team we have is simply dumb. We have far too many holes to make a luxury pick like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 20 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I too think it’s a possibility (and people will lose their minds). The scouting community LOVES Jacobs. The Bills are clearly drafting BPA (whenever they pick). It is absolutely possible. I still think it’s a defensive player but they certainly aren’t crossing anyone off at this point. if we fix the OL by that time, I could see it as a possibility. I could also see a team wanting him, while other teams want a QB, and Bean swinging a trade to go back a few picks and getting more picks. Taking a WR and a different RB in RD. 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Nothing about Beane and McD suggests to me that they would do this with the current state of the team. So I am highly skeptical they would take a RB top 10 unless that RB was a Saquan like generational talent or RB was the last piece of the rebuild needed on offense. Never say never, so I will put the odds of this happening at less than 5% even though right now my gut feels like it’s really 0% chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 52 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: I really hope they stick to BPA. People on here are hung up way too much on certain positions. If they hit on a blue chipper in the first round we'll be a better team after the draft, regardless of position. Ive definitely noticed this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 hours ago, njbuff said: Where the hell you been? The NFL community is in love with the kid. Way to stay informed there, Sparky. The NFL community thought Trent Richardson was a round 1 running back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Ive definitely noticed this It's like some people think the only thing we can possibly draft or sign is WRs, TEs and offensive linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 17 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Julio Jones, AJ Green, Calvin Ridley, Mike Evans, Deandre Hopkins would devastate us ? I can get on board with drafting a WR in the 1st rd way before a RB. Either way Trade back, O-line is the way to go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, NewEra said: I guess that’s the difference. I’m not a big fan of a lot of those DL at 9. I’d be happy with Oliver, Bosa and Allen. Not a big fan of anyone else at 9. Trade down. At that point, there’s a chance that jacobs is BPA. I agree with you in the respect that there are a few positions I wouldn’t want to draft in the first rd (LB, S, QB) regardless of BPA. RB is usually on that list based on the ability to grab one later in the draft, but I just think Jacobs is that much better than all the other RBs. Jmo, of course I think a trade down in the first round is quite possible. A qb or 2 will most likely shoot up the board creating a possible trade scenario. If they do trade down, almost anything is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 21 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: This staff just strikes me as not being the type to draft a RB that high. I could be completely wrong though. Seeing as Beane said he will go BPA and you never draft for need or overdraft a player I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Folks, a little perspective here..... Are all of you aware that Josh was never established as the starting running back at Alabama? He was never the strongest running back on the Tide and while he is quick, he isn't a speed back. Josh is very good and quite versatile. He has great hands, blocks well, and is a smart kid and a smart player. Saban loves the kid. That said, I am not even sure if he will be better than Damien Harris. He can be if he continues to improve and his first step is a bit quicker, but Damien reminds me a bit of Thurman in terms of seeing holes to run through. He is no slouch. As a life long Alabama Fan, I would welcome Josh to the team. He had an extremely tough life but seems to maintain a great, positive attitude. I have no doubt that he would be quite useful to Allen, but; I don't think that the Bills should use a #9 on him. Disclaimer: I am not pretending to be a scout. I am just a fan who has seen every Alabama game for many years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 there is a zero % chance of this happening zero! If there was a less than zero % chance, it would be that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Mountain Man said: The NFL community thought Trent Richardson was a round 1 running back. That........ I think is another story. I can give you at least a million examples of the NFL community loving a player that turned out to be a colossal bust. Tony Mandarich ring a bell????? For starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 The Sammy Watkins experiment is still too recent for Buffalo to draft a WR in the 1st round. Especially considering the lack of an obvious generational talent. And I would like to think that we learned our lesson from last preseason that the OL needs to be a priority. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Bryce love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 If we can win on the line of scrimmage, everybody else becomes a better player. Let’s live by that motto! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 11 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Get me Devine Ozigbo in the 3rd or 4th. That kid is 6'0 219 and is a violent, violent runner. Hes nice. Reminds me a bit of Karlos Williams. Get me Darrell Henderson. That guy is a playmaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 54 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Bryce love He just tore his ACL in December. I don’t think he will play much, if at all, this year. It also appears that med school is his dream, not football. Some team will draft him at some point but I wouldn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: He just tore his ACL in December. I don’t think he will play much, if at all, this year. It also appears that med school is his dream, not football. Some team will draft him at some point but I wouldn’t. He did? Yikes I didn’t realize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 15 hours ago, njbuff said: That........ I think is another story. I can give you at least a million examples of the NFL community loving a player that turned out to be a colossal bust. Tony Mandarich ring a bell????? For starters. So therefore your argument of saying the NFL community loves Jacobs as a counter to me not supporting Jacobs as the Bills round 1 pick is a bit of a terrible argument then...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heff Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Rather draft Bryce Love in 3rd or 4th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) On 1/23/2019 at 4:57 PM, njbuff said: RB is a need and we don't know if McBeane is on the Jacobs love train or not. It will be interesting to see how the Bills go after another RB. So you have no rumors, connections (besides dabol) , evidence to to confirm hes a target? Random Edited January 25, 2019 by BillsMafia13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, BillsMafia13 said: So you have no rumors, evidence, or reason to to confirm hes a target? Random He mentioned the connection to Daboll. I don't think he was trying to imply that he had any inside info. What did he do wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Just now, Bill from NYC said: He mentioned the connection to Daboll. I don't think he was trying to imply that he had any inside info. What did he do wrong? I edited that at the same time you commented. He didnt do anything wrong, what do people call it, a LAMP? Unless im missing something I see no reason to even entertain this. He sounds like the 3rd best rb on his own team at 9? Worse than the spiller pick and just makes no sense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Just now, BillsMafia13 said: I edited that at the same time you commented. He didnt do anything wrong, what do people call it, a LAMP? Unless im missing something I see no reason to even entertain this. He sounds like the 3rd best rb on his own team at 9? Worse than the spiller pick and just makes no sense If you saw my post in this thread I am totally against using a #9 on Jacobs, and I am a HUGE Crimson Tide Fan and really like the kid. I see your point wrt the Spiller comparison, I really do, but; I would take Jacobs over Spiller ANY day!!! Even for the Bills, the Spiller pick was so stupid that it was mind boggling. As for Jacobs, imo he is a 2nd or 3rd round pick. He is a much better and stronger player than Spiller ever was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Bill from NYC said: If you saw my post in this thread I am totally against using a #9 on Jacobs, and I am a HUGE Crimson Tide Fan and really like the kid. I see your point wrt the Spiller comparison, I really do, but; I would take Jacobs over Spiller ANY day!!! Even for the Bills, the Spiller pick was so stupid that it was mind boggling. As for Jacobs, imo he is a 2nd or 3rd round pick. He is a much better and stronger player than Spiller ever was. Thank you, I know next to nothing about college ball other than the bulls so I rely on you guys. Just seems like Jacobs isnt close to the #1 RB, at a de-valued position we dont need so I got nervous for a min 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillsMafia13 said: Thank you, I know next to nothing about college ball other than the bulls so I rely on you guys. Just seems like Jacobs isnt close to the #1 RB, at a de-valued position we dont need so I got nervous for a min You need to avoid stats when looking at prospects. Josh Allen was a perfect example. It’s a skill set that you are looking for. The reason that scouts love Jacobs (Daniel Jeremiah’s top overall offensive player) is the combination of balance, receiving, effort, and tackle breaking ability. He has a skill set that translates to a 3 down back. He’s going to be a great pro and go way earlier than people many have thought (as he is a guy rising now). I don’t think he’s the Bills pick at 9 but I’ve seen him mocked as high as 5 to the Bucs. Edited January 25, 2019 by Kirby Jackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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