BillyWhiteShows Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t really love this idea since I don’t know a whole lot about the player. I am certain these projections will change hundreds of times. This time last year, many predicted Josh Allen going #1 overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 38 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I’ve seen him going to the Bills at 9 in a few mock drafts now. Seems kind of small for a 3 tech, but I’m guessing he could add 15-20 pounds. I don’t love it, but I don’t know enough about Gary to hate this. Any Michigan fans out there have an opinion? Co-worker who eats and breathes Michigan swears by this guy. Says he will be a beast for whomever gets him. He says that about every Michigan player though lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I think there is a very high likelihood that the Bills will go DL at 9 if they do not trade back. The value will likely be there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Well this stinks! The lone Josh Allen and all the good players named Williams are apparently all going to be gone before we get our chance at the podium. Trade Up!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 57 minutes ago, Buff76ers said: Top 5 D and bottom on Offense but Kiper thinks D is where we should spend our 1st pick. Dude sucks. I think kiper gets too much bashing. He does know his stuff, and really it's difficult to get a mock even close to correct as if one team makes an unexpected pick or you get a few trades then it just throws everything up in the air. He's wrong about a lot of players but he's right about a lot of them too. I really enjoy the podcast he does when it's approaching draft time. On the subject of the Bills picking D. I want to see offense too, but if the top is loaded with great D prospects I haven't got a problem with that, if they then stick with offense until the later rounds. If the top O-line prospect is there at 9 then I'd like to see them take him. This regime has proved it can find great D talent in the later rounds so I trust they can find a couple of decent prospects there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Of the players left, I would have preferred Clelin Ferrell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 HARD pass on Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Do not draft any defensive players in the first 3 rounds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, njbuff said: Here we go with the 8,678,654,925 mocks even before the combine. My fave thing about mocks is you can literally just put whoever you want in them. Look at my latest mock for Buffalo (Only did first 6 picks): Bosa Williams Oliver Greedy Williams Josh Allen N’Keal Harry Awesome hey? Edited January 17, 2019 by Jay_Fixit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 When do QBs usually begin their rapid rises in mocks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Mock drafts can never account for the trades prior to or during the draft. They thus have very limited usefulness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I hope not. Good talent. Won’t live up to the hype. I don’t want him or simmons. I’m sure one of them will be the pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said: Agreed. And Beane says he’s very much a BPA guy. I just hope the BPA happens to be a player of need. We desperately need help at OL and WR. And you solve that conflict by trading down (or maybe up) to where a need position has a BPA. I really didn't like Beane's answer b/c of this fact. Sure don't reach for need where you are sitting - but FFS don't sit there then! Having said that, we already know Beane will trade all over the place so that his need guy is a legit BPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Buff76ers said: Top 5 D and bottom on Offense but Kiper thinks D is where we should spend our 1st pick. Dude sucks. Sounds like he has the right idea about our HC and GM. BPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Buff76ers said: If that’s the case he needs to rethink it. He knows we drafted Harrison Phillips last year and are trying to resign Jordan Phillips. We must go O in the first. Well get ready, cause we're goin D. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Buff76ers said: Top 5 D and bottom on Offense but Kiper thinks D is where we should spend our 1st pick. Dude sucks. Does Beane also suck? Because he’s said repeatedly that he does not draft based on need. Maybe Kiper has been paying attention and you haven’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, ExWNYer said: ...of all the pundits out there, has Mel Kiper ever picked the Bills 1st Rounder correctly? Is that high praise for Mel? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 as an Ohio St. fan nothing Gary did made me go, Wow, id love for him to be a Bill. rather use this offseason to build a dominant offensive line. sure DT is a hole, O-line is more important right now imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Where’s Ed Oliver on that list??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: Very likely this could happen. DL rotation. This kid can play anywhere along to dline. 6’5” 280 lbs, great athletic ability. Just an underachiever. Most blame is on Michigan style defense and not knowing what to do with the kid. McD is known to tap full potential. If he could get the bulb to go off, maybe this kid be special. Ohhh man the last underachiever we drafted high turned out great! Aaron maybin was underutilized and penn state didn’t scheme to his ability. Passsssss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 PFF, has us taking Jeffrey Simmons on their mockdraft. Only thing I know is he's a a DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I’ve seen him going to the Bills at 9 in a few mock drafts now. Seems kind of small for a 3 tech, but I’m guessing he could add 15-20 pounds. I don’t love it, but I don’t know enough about Gary to hate this. Any Michigan fans out there have an opinion? Pizza and wings. Got that covered. As much as I love the pre-draft stuff.....I also hate the pre-draft stuff. All the guessing frustrates me, and I just want it to happen already! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Well this stinks! The lone Josh Allen and all the good players named Williams are apparently all going to be gone before we get our chance at the podium. Trade Up!!! There is always the chance that they will sign Jesse James and/or Maxx Williams to lessen the blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, bigduke6 said: as an Ohio St. fan nothing Gary did made me go, Wow, id love for him to be a Bill. rather use this offseason to build a dominant offensive line. sure DT is a hole, O-line is more important right now imo. But where is the value at #9? Don’t lose sight of that. Time will tell. However, I’m ALL with you on building the OLine, just do it with value. You win in the trenches. Edited January 17, 2019 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Chicharito said: Ohhh man the last underachiever we drafted high turned out great! Aaron maybin was underutilized and penn state didn’t scheme to his ability. Passsssss I’m not a fan of Gary. But a lot of write ups claimed Michigan didn’t know what to do with him. Kid was the #1 Highschool prospect and said to have freakish athletic ability for being 6’5” 280. Pretty sure Maybin was never talked about like that at that level. I did read a lot about if he would be able to play DE in the league at 235 through multiple sources and how that scared a lot of teams away. But we we will see come the combine and pro days. If McD thinks he can bring out that freak which Michigan couldn’t I’m all for it. Not saying Gary is bad, but that kid was talked about being #1 overall. McD knows how to get the best out of people. Example... Would Shaq have been on this level with Rex? No way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: I’m not a fan of Gary. But a lot of write ups claimed Michigan didn’t know what to do with him. Kid was the #1 Highschool prospect and said to have freakish athletic ability for being 6’5” 280. Pretty sure Maybin was never talked about like that at that level. I did read a lot about if he would be able to play DE in the league at 235 through multiple sources and how that scared a lot of teams away. But we we will see come the combine and pro days. If McD thinks he can bring out that freak which Michigan couldn’t I’m all for it. Not saying Gary is bad, but that kid was talked about being #1 overall. McD knows how to get the best out of people. Example... Would Shaq have been on this level with Rex? No way! I get what your saying it’s just the past horror of that pick still haunts. Bean and McDermott really can get the most out of players except for Benjamin. How refreshing is it to finally feel like we have true football minds leading this franchise? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Buff76ers said: Top 5 D and bottom on Offense but Kiper thinks D is where we should spend our 1st pick. Dude sucks. I understand what you are saying. I also think this is how a team can talk themselves into reaching for a guy. At 9 I will say the Bills could have multiple guys rated similarly and also have the need portion line up for a couple positions. The only position I don’t see the Bills taking in the first is QB and inside linebacker. Pretty much everyone else is on the table. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I think if the Bills were to draft a DT, there might be another one available that I would prefer. In Kiper's mock Ed Oliver is still available. I have some misgivings about him too, but he's certainly a possibility. Then there's Jeffery Simmons. The knock on Simmons has to do with an off field incident in which he was videotaped punching out a girl. That incident happened when he was in high school. He had no problems in college, and he was known apparently for his volunteer work. BTW, while I don't condone anyone for punching out a girl, it seems she was no saint either. In that same incident, she was arrested for distrubing the peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Virgil said: I don't want to spend a top 10 pick on a rotational player. Top 10 should be impact players. Trade back if this is what we are looking for I'm not seeing two-down or rotational player. I think he is a guy that could be a disruptive 3 down player who could play inside or outside (preferably inside) Edited January 17, 2019 by OldTimer1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberTheRockpile Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 In my opinion Mel Kiper should be mocked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, NewEra said: I hope not. Good talent. Won’t live up to the hype. I don’t want him or simmons. I’m sure one of them will be the pick ...don't get to see college ball bud....so putting aside the individual for a moment, I'm more interested in your assessment as to whether McBeane goes OL or DL in the 1st (maybe neither?), staying put at #10 or trading down to pick up an extra 2nd...thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, Chicharito said: I get what your saying it’s just the past horror of that pick still haunts. Bean and McDermott really can get the most out of players except for Benjamin. How refreshing is it to finally feel like we have true football minds leading this franchise? Benjamin was just lazy, not a team player, played for himself etc.... I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s not on a team come week 1 next season. If Dez Bryant was still looking, no doubt Benjamin should struggle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Ed Oliver is available our pick in most mocks I have seen. I am always a fan of the trade down, but Ed is hard to pass on. He was in discussion of being #1 pick overall before he got hurt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Pete said: Ed Oliver is available our pick in most mocks I have seen. I am always a fan of the trade down, but Ed is hard to pass on. He was in discussion of being #1 pick overall before he got hurt ...and of course the crazy tantrum.... Not sure how much was on player vs coach there, but that was cause for concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, Pete said: Ed Oliver is available our pick in most mocks I have seen. I am always a fan of the trade down, but Ed is hard to pass on. He was in discussion of being #1 pick overall before he got hurt ....several with the Williams kid as well though........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Defense Schmefence. Wideout or OL all draft long please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Buff76ers said: If that’s the case he needs to rethink it. He knows we drafted Harrison Phillips last year and are trying to resign Jordan Phillips. We must go O in the first. must? nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Peace Frog said: I personally suggested to Brandon Beane that on draft day, he should do what he thinks is best for the team. I can't divulge anymore details. Greatly appreciated. Your fine efforts on Our behalf. but He has suggested Mrs Beane takes your advice as a courtesy to your wife and family. He already knew that, and they wonder why you say it every holiday event. sorry to be harshing my favorite frog : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Well get ready, cause we're goin D. lol is this thing on ?? : ) 1 hour ago, The Drought said: There is always the chance that they will sign Jesse James and/or Maxx Williams to lessen the blow. I approve of this message. because Daboll like his TEs i still think. But no to DT that high. Bills play a rotation. They need one or two.and that skillset to be filled can be found later. What player and position changes the game day one for the Bills ? That is who you shoot for early in round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Defense Schmefence. Wideout or OL all draft long please and TE !! well one at least : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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