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Which prospect do you NOT want the Bills to draft?


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I think jonah Williams is that guy for me too.  I see a Cordy Glenn type impact.  I’d rather grab a potentially dominant pass rusher like, hopefully Ed Oliver or trade down and grab Kelvin Harmon.  Accumulate picks. Would be nice to be able to add a long term starter at OL, WR, TE, RB and pass rusher.  

 

If we trade down and draft offense, a free agent pass rusher would be huge.   I’d throw the house at Demarcus Lawrence and not look back.  He and Jerry would be so much fun to watch.  Opposing offenses would be in trouble. Not sure he’d want to come here but I’d make him the highest paid DE in the league. For 3 years.  We have the money for it. We won’t be spending to the cap and a dominant pass rush wins.

14 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:

Rashaan Gary and Jeffrey Simmons off the top of my head.

Yeah I’m with you on Jeffery Simmons.  He’s the defensive guy I pray we don’t grab.  I’d love Ed Oliver.  I think he’d thrive in this scheme and playing next to Jerry Hughes.

 

Josh Allen or Bosa really would’ve sealed the deal in our defense, but Oliver has the potential to dominate as well. 

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2 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:

That is a more IMPORTANT question, but there's always been that ONE guy I simply did not want the Bills to draft. Was curious as to whether or not others had a similar sentiment.

 

There are usually two or three guys I don’t want to draft. This year is just tough to find guys I would want to draft. It would be easier if there was a standout OL or WR. I’m not 100% sold on Williams either.

1 hour ago, LSHMEAB said:

There seems to be a bit of a consensus regarding Gary; nobody wants him, myself included. At least I know who we'll end up taking.?

 

Why does no one like Gary? I saw a little bit of Aaron Donald in him. He played DE in college though, not sure how he would be as a 3 tech.

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2 minutes ago, billspro said:

 

There are usually two or three guys I don’t want to draft. This year is just tough to find guys I would want to draft. It would be easier if there was a standout OL or WR. I’m not 100% sold on Williams either.

Yeah. This draft is kind of odd in that way. As I said, I don't want Williams, but I don't exactly love anyone either. Ferrell would be the guy right now, but a lot can change between now and April/May/ whenever they hold it these days.

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

Greedy Williams - overhyped CB in a Blah CB Draft 

No corners! McBeane can find them under a rock.

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2 hours ago, Floydboy12 said:

Feel like Quinnen Williams might be a little overrated. Love Josh Allen from UK.  Would love to get Jonah Williams. The versatility he brings is hard to come by. At 9 we probably get none of these anyway. I guess of the guys who will be there none of the WR seem worthy of that high a spot. 

Did you not see Quinnen constantly in Clemson's backfield yesterday or beating double teams? I'll take Quinnen over Jonah

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2 hours ago, CNYfan said:

I know the OP is high on Greg Little and opposed to Jonah Williams.  

 

I do not have a strong opinion on Jonah, but I tend to agree with WMD on a no to Greg Little.  My thought is that his attitude is reportedly not "all in".  Taking plays off, maybe a little lazy attitude at times.   Now I have not seen very much of Mr. Little, but I was bothered by those reports. 

 

My past "please no" players have been Orlondo Brown, Jr. (last year with bad combine); Jonathon Martin (soft) and our own Cyrus K (looked good in shorts but got beaten like a drum in the championship game).  I don't like the Mixon, T. Hill, M. Bryant type thing either.

 

I do know we have to hit this pick, and cannot miss.

No to Little.   Lazy players do not become hard workers once rich.

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The only pick/prospect in the last few years I was dead set against was DeShone Kizer, the QB from Notre Dame that Cleveland took in 2017. The thing that sealed it for me was a conversation I saw between him and Jon Gruden. Gruden asked him if he liked winning or if he hated losing. He replied something like, I like to win, winning is fun. That's the wrong answer. I want guys who lose sleep over one play that they messed up years ago. I want the guys who despise losing. I want guys who are miserable when they get beat and work their tails off to make sure it doesn't happen.

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6 minutes ago, billspro said:

 

Risky betting against an LSU corner.

Yeah. I think Greedy Williams is a fine prospect who will likely be an upper echelon corner, but I don't want to allocate a top ten pick to another corner. McBeane has proven capable of addressing that position without such an enormous investment.

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6 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Yeah. I think Greedy Williams is a fine prospect who will likely be an upper echelon corner, but I don't want to allocate a top ten pick to another corner. McBeane has proven capable of addressing that position without such an enormous investment.

 

I don’t either Levi Wallace really impressed me.

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There are several prospects I'm wary of, but I can live with assuming Beane and company will do their homework.  They include Greg Little (athletic left tackle , but questions about consistency and work ethic),  Hakeem Butler in the first (overdrafting), Jeffery Simmons (character issues), Ed Oliver (bad for locker room)

 

One pick for Buffalo was in a mock I saw today - it made me gag a bit:  Byron Murphy.  I also don't want Greedy Williams.  Both might be good CBs, and teams can always use more good CBs, but with the emergence of Levi Wallace, and some other guys providing at least decent depth, I have to believe there are players at positions of greater need  who have at least as much value, if not more.  Devin White is another player who gives me the same feeling.  Clearly Buffalo is going with Tremaine Edmunds in the middle, and Matt Milano is a lock to stay in the weak LB spont.  Yes, Zo is 35, but he had his best year in 2018 and he wants to ploay another year.  If Buffalo needed a linebacker now, Id be fine with it, but they need other positions a whole lot more.

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10 minutes ago, Protocal69 said:

Has a NFL team or any team for that matter ever had 2 impact players with the same name on the roster at the same time? 

I HIGHLY doubt it, but the other Josh Allen will be long gone at 9. Would have been awesome.

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I surprisingly and honestly don’t care. I trust the process.  I can see upgrade needs almost everywhere and what they don’t get in the 1st, I’ll wait until the 4th to see if it doesn’t get addressed before having my “moment”

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I scope out a lot of mock drafts, and we keep being paired with DK Metcalf. NOT impressed... The numbers:

Receiving & Rushing

    Receiving Rushing Scrimmage
Year School Conf Class Pos G Rec Yds Avg TD Att Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD
Career Ole Miss         67 1228 18.3 14 0 0   0 67 1228 18.3 14
2016 Ole Miss SEC FR WR 2 2 13 6.5 2 0 0   0 2 13 6.5 2
2017 Ole Miss SEC FR WR 12 39 646 16.6 7 0 0   0 39 646 16.6 7
2018 Ole Miss SEC SO WR 7 26 569 21.9 5 0 0   0 26 569 21.9 5

 

Also, neck injury... Hello, Eric Wood... Don't want to lose a valuable player and draft position due to injury.

 

How do those numbers garner a #9 pick?

 

Either 1) the national mock authors are idiots, 2) they think we are idiots, or 3) they see a need at WR and just plug in the name they hear a whole lot of draft talk about.

 

Also would pass on Noah Fant, TE - Iowa. Saw his snaps decreasing; mentions by coaches of "lack of desire."

 

Smells like Benjamin at the TE position...

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I didn't watch enough CFB this year to develop any strong biases, but here are some of my choices from yesteryear:

  • 2011:  No to Von Miller; I was still haunted by the ghost of Maybin.  I was pretty psyched when the news broke that Dareus would be ours for the taking
  • 2012:  No to Mark Barron.  I was relieved when the Bucs picked him, but was soon yelling "Noooo" at the TV when the Panthers picked Kuechly just before us.  Would Kuechly have been a Bill if he was still there?
  • 2013:  The year of the non-franchise QB. I remember hearing that Nix was high on Mike Glennon, which made him a firm pass for me.  Funny that he turned out to be the best of the bunch, though that's not saying much.  Say what you will about Buddy, but he knew a mediocre/poor QB when he saw one  
  • 2014:  Feeling anti-Ebron, due to his alleged disinterest in blocking, rings a bell
  • 2015:  No 1st round pick; don't remember
  • 2016:  Reggie "Would've been a top 10 pick in the '90s" Ragland.  At least we waited until the 2nd, though it did cost us a couple of 4ths.  Watching the Seahawks take Jarran Reed with our #49 pick just twisted the knife.  I also wanted no part of Cardale Jones.  That was a pretty rough draft for me
  • 2017:  Chad "don't care who your uncle is" Kelly
  • 2018:  Wasn't interested in trading up for Allen; I thought he was too big of a risk for a top 10 pick.  I hope to be wrong about that.  I wouldn't say I was anti-Edmunds, but I was disappointed when they took him over Vander Esch
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6 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said:

Wait.

 

Arizona State avatar but you DON’T want N’Keal Harry?

 

What is going on here!!!

 

 

I’m gonna bang that drum until he’s drafted. Kids a beast.

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I worry about reaching for any offensive player if a better defensive player is available.

 

My risky player is the TE Fant.

 

Great athlete with amazing vertical and the size/speed you look for, but Iowa fans felt he took a lot of plays off if they were not going his way, had inconsistent hands, and crumbled to the ground at first contact. Also the coaches there limited his reps quite a bit over the latter half of the year - a lot of speculation that they did not like his effort and blocking and preferred to use T. J. Hockenson as their go-to TE.

 

Just speculation, but gives me pause. Either way a risky prospect considering there are some other TEs in this draft with less question marks.

 

Whatever receivers the Bills are interested in, they should have them catch from a jugs machine set as high as it can go to see if they can hold onto the ball.

 

 

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I would pass on OL and WR. I think the value of these positions are in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft. Williams and Little seem like reaches and WR will be a big reach at 9.

 

1st round- Best Defensive Player Available or trade down.

 

2nd- WR

 

3rd-OL/TE( I fully expect the Bills to sign two veteran starting caliber OL this offseason)

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12 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:

Total agreement on Gary. I'm a Michigan fan so I watched every game. Absolutely do not see him as an impact player at the next level. 

Interesting regarding Gary.  I only watched him 3-4 times and he didn’t really stand out.  Is he Shaq Lawson 2.0?  Solid guy mostly effective vs the run.  I remember when he chose Michigan 3 years ago.  It was a big get for harbaugh.  

7 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:

Yeah. I think Greedy Williams is a fine prospect who will likely be an upper echelon corner, but I don't want to allocate a top ten pick to another corner. McBeane has proven capable of addressing that position without such an enormous investment.

No one would ever be able to pass on us though.  I m not saying I want him (I’d prefer pass rush if we go d)  but our d would be sick.  

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