BlueandRed Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, SDS said: I have the same jersey... Yikes!! It’s time to hit the gym. Y’all making my heath insurance premium skyrocket!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 There have been many great DT’s in Bills history but I think that Kyle, perhaps, was one of the best when you take into account his success, production, longetivity and meaning to the Bills franchise. Take a look at these numbers: 13 years, 5 Pro Bowls, 48.5 sacks A few others worth considering for their time in Buffalo : Fred Smerlas 10 years, 1 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowls (16.5 sacks) Ted Washington 5 years, 3 Pro Bowls, (19.5 sacks) Pat Williams 8 years, 0 Pro Bowls, (12.5 sacks) Marcel Darius 7 years, 1 All Pro, 1 Pro Bowl (35.5 sacks) Jeff Wright: ok so this was a joke. But what are your thoughts? I say Kyle is the best 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 32 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: There have been many great DT’s in Bills history but I think that Kyle, perhaps, was one of the best when you take into account his success, production, longetivity and meaning to the Bills franchise. Take a look at these numbers: 13 years, 5 Pro Bowls, 48.5 sacks A few others worth considering for their time in Buffalo : Fred Smerlas 10 years, 1 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowls (16.5 sacks) Ted Washington 5 years, 3 Pro Bowls, (19.5 sacks) Pat Williams 8 years, 0 Pro Bowls, (12.5 sacks) Marcel Darius 7 years, 1 All Pro, 1 Pro Bowl (35.5 sacks) Jeff Wright: ok so this was a joke. But what are your thoughts? I say Kyle is the best I think he may garner HOF consideration at some point down the road. Steve Buerlein made the comment today that since 2006, KW has more tackles than any other interior defensive lineman in the game. I found that interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Thanks again to Kyle. Really embraced what being a Buffalo Bill and being a WNY means. In the big picture it was the right way to send Kyle off today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninMinn. Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 On 12/29/2018 at 4:26 PM, JerseyBills said: You obviously missed the point. He's not the greatest DT. He's not the fastest , strongest or talented. It's the impact he made off the field. It's the leadership , the work habits that will hopefully live on through his teammates. Look no further than the impressions he made on his coaches and teammates. He will be missed probably off the field more than anything Because on the field he was a liability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninMinn. Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Only in Buffalo fans can celebrate mediocrity like this. Kyle is a nice guy but he got blown off the line of scrimmage quite a bit. 2007 7-9 2008 7-9 2009 6-10 2010 4-12 2011 6-10 2012 6-10 2013 6-10 2014 9-7 2015 8-8 2016 7-9 2017 9-7 2018 6-10 ______________ 81-111 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, JohninMinn. said: Only in Buffalo fans can celebrate mediocrity like this. Kyle is a nice guy but he got blown off the line of scrimmage quite a bit. 2007 7-9 2008 7-9 2009 6-10 2010 4-12 2011 6-10 2012 6-10 2013 6-10 2014 9-7 2015 8-8 2016 7-9 2017 9-7 2018 6-10 ______________ 81-111 48.5 sacks. Over 600 Tackles in his career( which leads all DT's since 2006) His play is not the reason for W/L record. So I don't see your point in posting that 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 19 minutes ago, JohninMinn. said: Only in Buffalo fans can celebrate mediocrity like this. Getting an early start on ‘Amateur Night’ I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 41 minutes ago, JohninMinn. said: Only in Buffalo fans can celebrate mediocrity like this. Kyle is a nice guy but he got blown off the line of scrimmage quite a bit. 2007 7-9 2008 7-9 2009 6-10 2010 4-12 2011 6-10 2012 6-10 2013 6-10 2014 9-7 2015 8-8 2016 7-9 2017 9-7 2018 6-10 ______________ 81-111 Will you be around to speak at my retirement in 30 years? I would like to book you now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, JohninMinn. said: Because on the field he was a liability yep. I watched him closely for years. he was not the quickest off the ball. nor did he ever draw double teams. and when he shifted the pre snap call on the line it was often unnecessary. there or more grievances to air. But i will leave that to you ! /Sarchasm BTW I cried when they subbed him off the field for the Fans that last series. He is my Buffalo Bills Hero of all time. 95 is my favorite That was the best most Honorable send off i have ever seen. and I am damned proud to be a Bills Fan even more so after Sunday Go Bills 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, JohninMinn. said: Only in Buffalo fans can celebrate mediocrity like this. Kyle is a nice guy but he got blown off the line of scrimmage quite a bit. 2007 7-9 2008 7-9 2009 6-10 2010 4-12 2011 6-10 2012 6-10 2013 6-10 2014 9-7 2015 8-8 2016 7-9 2017 9-7 2018 6-10 ______________ 81-111 only a so called bills fan would piss on the parade. well done, well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Why do we love Kyle Williams? · We loved that backflip in college · We loved when this LSU Tiger, looking more like a Teddy Bear, came to Buffalo · We loved how the news from training camp day after day was Williams made another play · We loved that he started as a rookie · We loved that he was a fifth round pick · We loved that he was tough and still a sportsman · We loved how after a couple of years he knew he was supposed to be a leader, but he didn’t know how · We loved how he started speaking up and doing more, sort of awkwardly at first, doing it because he knew HE had to do it · We loved how he embraced our new owners and our new GM and our new coach · We loved how eventually it was all there, the play, the leadership, the stability in tough times, the self-assured modesty, the graciousness · We loved the leadership · We loved watching him get to the playoffs · We loved the message – that this is what can happen if you commit completely to becoming everything you can be · We loved how, through all of that, he was still a kid playing a game · We love him like family. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 hours ago, JohninMinn. said: Only in Buffalo fans can celebrate mediocrity like this. Kyle is a nice guy but he got blown off the line of scrimmage quite a bit. 2007 7-9 2008 7-9 2009 6-10 2010 4-12 2011 6-10 2012 6-10 2013 6-10 2014 9-7 2015 8-8 2016 7-9 2017 9-7 2018 6-10 ______________ 81-111 Sometimes it's best to sit quietly and let people think of you as a fool, than to open your mouth and prove them right. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said: I cried when they subbed him off the field for the Fans that last series. He is my Buffalo Bills Hero of all time. 95 is my favorite That was the best most Honorable send off i have ever seen. and I am damned proud to be a Bills Fan even more so after Sunday Go Bills Nicely done. Very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, BillyWhiteShows said: There have been many great DT’s in Bills history but I think that Kyle, perhaps, was one of the best when you take into account his success, production, longetivity and meaning to the Bills franchise. Take a look at these numbers: 13 years, 5 Pro Bowls, 48.5 sacks A few others worth considering for their time in Buffalo : Fred Smerlas 10 years, 1 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowls (16.5 sacks) Ted Washington 5 years, 3 Pro Bowls, (19.5 sacks) Pat Williams 8 years, 0 Pro Bowls, (12.5 sacks) Marcel Darius 7 years, 1 All Pro, 1 Pro Bowl (35.5 sacks) Jeff Wright: ok so this was a joke. But what are your thoughts? I say Kyle is the best Have to go with Freddy. Fred was a true NT. That position is absolutely horrible on the body and he played that position well for a decade plus. JMO, but if the Bills kept Smerlas one more year they would have won SB 25. No way the Giants gash the Bills on the ground the way they did with Fred out there. Edited December 31, 2018 by Binghamton Beast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 15 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Have to go with Freddy. Fred was a true NT. That position is absolutely horrible on the body and he played that position well for a decade plus. JMO, but if the Bills kept Smerlas one more year they would have won SB 25. No way the Giants gash the Bills on the ground the way they dis with Fred out there. I don't have great recollections of Freddy. I had little kids and wasn't watching the Bills as much as I do now. Still, I'd guess you're right. Kyle wasn't the best tackle in the sense that he could dominate other teams. But he did EVERYTHING at a really high level. He played, without the same size and length, like JJ Watt plays, all out determination mixed with great athletic ability, every play. Kyle couldn't dominate like Watt, but that was his style. Smerlas could dominate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 hours ago, JohninMinn. said: Only in Buffalo fans can celebrate mediocrity like this. Kyle is a nice guy but he got blown off the line of scrimmage quite a bit. 2007 7-9 2008 7-9 2009 6-10 2010 4-12 2011 6-10 2012 6-10 2013 6-10 2014 9-7 2015 8-8 2016 7-9 2017 9-7 2018 6-10 ______________ 81-111 You’re an idiot. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 7 hours ago, JohninMinn. said: Because on the field he was a liability Get bent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 He’s a legend and if he wants to retire and teach horses how to run w humans on their backs so be it ***** off if you don’t like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 8 hours ago, JohninMinn. said: Because on the field he was a liability Wow . U were actually serious? No offense but your football i.q is extremely low if you believe that. Who remembers when he almost single handedly won us the Steelers game in 2010 , It was the Stevie Johnson drop game where he blamed God... Just look at what PFF says about Williams, arguably the best DT that year , and here's the excerpt from the Steelers game, going against an all pro C .. The Pittsburgh Game If you asked me what the best performance at any position in the 2010 season was, then I’d be looking at Week 12 when the Bills hosted the Steelers. While much of the postgame focus was on Steve Johnson and his five drops (including one that would have won the game), I watched in amazement at what Kyle Williams did in his 74 defensive snaps. It wasn’t perfect, but it was pretty close. 29.73% of his snaps were graded positively, a ridiculously high margin as Williams dominated the Steelers interior for five quarters, with both Maurkice Pouncey and Chris Kemoeatu absorbing the brunt of his ability. Take what Williams did with 5:25 left in the first half: bursting through the A-gap with such explosiveness that neither Pouncey or Kemoeatu can do anything but watch as he engulfs Ben Roethlisberger. Or, with 16 seconds left in the first quarter, shooting off the line so quickly that Pouncey couldn’t pick him up, Williams met Rashad Mendenhall five yards in the backfield as he received the ball. There are many more highlights, but I’m sure you get the point. It was certainly a game worth re-watching. The full article is a great, must read... https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/kyle-williams-beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 10 hours ago, JohninMinn. said: Only in Buffalo fans can celebrate mediocrity like this. Kyle is a nice guy but he got blown off the line of scrimmage quite a bit. 2007 7-9 2008 7-9 2009 6-10 2010 4-12 2011 6-10 2012 6-10 2013 6-10 2014 9-7 2015 8-8 2016 7-9 2017 9-7 2018 6-10 ______________ 81-111 Thank you Mr Scrooge. I believe the Ghost of Christmas past and the Grim Reaper are trying to get through to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I became a season ticket holder the year before Kyle was drafted. It's been almost an interrupted stream of steady losing since then and yet with each of Kyle's Pro Bowl invites and on field achievements, he gave me confidence to renew my tickets. No one legitimized our team the way he did. Imagine what determination he must have had to perform at that level in a sea of mediocrity. Mario Williams and TO came here for the paycheck and quickly checked out but Kyle publicly expressed his preference for being a Bill when it was anything but fashionable and it may even have cost him some money and opportunity. The fact that he performed at a Pro Bowl level for the duration of his time here without being an athlete of the Khalil Mack/Jadeveon Clowney/Ndamokong Suh variety just begins to hint as to his depth of character. At the risk of sounding disloyal, I will confess to secretly wishing he left for a contender to get his due as a name on the Lombardi. We've been very blessed to have such a professional in our midst who deeply loved our team and community. My Bills attire will soon include his jersey. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, stuvian said: I became a season ticket holder the year before Kyle was drafted. It's been almost an interrupted stream of steady losing since then and yet with each of Kyle's Pro Bowl invites and on field achievements, he gave me confidence to renew my tickets. No one legitimized our team the way he did. Imagine what determination he must have had to perform at that level in a sea of mediocrity. Mario Williams and TO came here for the paycheck and quickly checked out but Kyle publicly expressed his preference for being a Bill when it was anything but fashionable and it may even have cost him some money and opportunity. The fact that he performed at a Pro Bowl level for the duration of his time here without being an athlete of the Khalil Mack/Jadeveon Clowney/Ndamokong Suh variety just begins to hint as to his depth of character. At the risk of sounding disloyal, I will confess to secretly wishing he left for a contender to get his due as a name on the Lombardi. We've been very blessed to have such a professional in our midst who deeply loved our team and community. My Bills attire will soon include his jersey. Really well said, Stu. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Really well said, Stu. Shaw, I wish you and your loved ones the very best of the holiday season and 2019. Your contributions to the Bills community are a big part of what keep me coming back. I just spent the Xmas holidays in Seahawk country on the Canadian side. I was born in Vancouver and was a Seahawks/Raiders fan before moving to Ontario at age 19 and discovering the Bills. Before that the Bills were just another team on TV I would never identify with. The beautiful experience of gameday at the Ralph (yes I will always call it that despite the ever changing corporate sponsorships) is like nothing else I have experienced anywhere else. We are a great community because of posters like you. As for me, I will keep my season ticket account up as long as I can. I just came back from helping my Mom recoup from heart surgery on Vancouver Island. I may move back west so as to fulfill my family obligation. I can tell that when the Bills show up i Seattle, I will be sporting their gear. Wishing 2019's glad tidings to you and your loved ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 7 hours ago, MarkAF43 said: You’re an idiot. I really ought to chide this But under the circumstances.... I just can't. Happy New Year, you get the "DCTom Pass" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 On 12/30/2018 at 10:48 PM, BillyWhiteShows said: There have been many great DT’s in Bills history but I think that Kyle, perhaps, was one of the best when you take into account his success, production, longetivity and meaning to the Bills franchise. Take a look at these numbers: 13 years, 5 Pro Bowls, 48.5 sacks A few others worth considering for their time in Buffalo : Fred Smerlas 10 years, 1 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowls (16.5 sacks) Ted Washington 5 years, 3 Pro Bowls, (19.5 sacks) Pat Williams 8 years, 0 Pro Bowls, (12.5 sacks) Marcel Darius 7 years, 1 All Pro, 1 Pro Bowl (35.5 sacks) Jeff Wright: ok so this was a joke. But what are your thoughts? I say Kyle is the best ted was the best NT but Kyle is definitely the best DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Thank you Kyle!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 On 12/30/2018 at 10:42 PM, SDS said: I have the same jersey... How much would it ruin the gameday experience to be sitting next to that fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) On 12/30/2018 at 10:48 PM, BillyWhiteShows said: There have been many great DT’s in Bills history but I think that Kyle, perhaps, was one of the best when you take into account his success, production, longetivity and meaning to the Bills franchise. Take a look at these numbers: 13 years, 5 Pro Bowls, 48.5 sacks A few others worth considering for their time in Buffalo : Fred Smerlas 10 years, 1 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowls (16.5 sacks) Ted Washington 5 years, 3 Pro Bowls, (19.5 sacks) Pat Williams 8 years, 0 Pro Bowls, (12.5 sacks) Marcel Darius 7 years, 1 All Pro, 1 Pro Bowl (35.5 sacks) Jeff Wright: ok so this was a joke. But what are your thoughts? I say Kyle is the best Kyle was very good for a long time, but for best DT, Tom Sestak says hello: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Sestak 4× AFL All-Star (1962–1965) 6× All-AFL (1962–1966, 1968) 2× AFL Champion (1964, 1965) AFL All-Time Team Bills Wall of Fame Bills 50th Anniversary Team Edited January 1, 2019 by WotAGuy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I really ought to chide this But under the circumstances.... I just can't. Happy New Year, you get the "DCTom Pass" Thanks Hap, I'll call it my birthday present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Was at the game ... it was a unbelievable tribute to a Bills Legend ... he and his style is why you love the Bills. Some yayhoo's can post his won/loss record (JohninMinn) ... but as I recall there are 10 other players on defense, an entire offense, and special teams ... you give me 53 players with Kyle Williams passion and drive and you'd have multiple super bowl rings. As was chanted in the stands over and over and over again on Sunday.. THANK YOU KYLE!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, WideRightRevenge said: Was at the game ... it was a unbelievable tribute to a Bills Legend ... he and his style is why you love the Bills. Some yayhoo's can post his won/loss record (JohninMinn) ... but as I recall there are 10 other players on defense, an entire offense, and special teams ... you give me 53 players with Kyle Williams passion and drive and you'd have multiple super bowl rings. As was chanted in the stands over and over and over again on Sunday.. THANK YOU KYLE!!! Thank you for the post ! so pleased his send off was done with such class from everyone involved : ) Edited January 1, 2019 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Punching Bag Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 10 hours ago, The Bills Blog said: How much would it ruin the gameday experience to be sitting next to that fan? He definitely should be paying for 2 seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 On 12/30/2018 at 9:48 PM, BillyWhiteShows said: There have been many great DT’s in Bills history but I think that Kyle, perhaps, was one of the best when you take into account his success, production, longetivity and meaning to the Bills franchise. Take a look at these numbers: 13 years, 5 Pro Bowls, 48.5 sacks A few others worth considering for their time in Buffalo : Fred Smerlas 10 years, 1 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowls (16.5 sacks) Ted Washington 5 years, 3 Pro Bowls, (19.5 sacks) Pat Williams 8 years, 0 Pro Bowls, (12.5 sacks) Marcel Darius 7 years, 1 All Pro, 1 Pro Bowl (35.5 sacks) Jeff Wright: ok so this was a joke. But what are your thoughts? I say Kyle is the best Tom Sestak is missing. All Time AFL team. The best player on the Best Defense in mid 60’s AFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 15 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: "Have a career"? What is that supposed to mean? Ugh, this trend of people stupidly saying, "Have a day! Have a day!" is so annoying and makes no ***** sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: "Have a career"? What is that supposed to mean? Ugh, this trend of people stupidly saying, "Have a day! Have a day!" is so annoying and makes no ***** sense. Some intern with ‘passion’ just ‘reaching out’ to celebrate Williams. A ‘must have’! Jesus, remember when people knew how to speak and write? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 They forgot one stat. 1 pass catch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 hours ago, The Bills Blog said: "Have a career"? What is that supposed to mean? Ugh, this trend of people stupidly saying, "Have a day! Have a day!" is so annoying and makes no ***** sense. From what I gather they did it just to upset you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradobillsfan Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: From what I gather they did it just to upset you. I believe his proper 21st century response would be "just sayin" because that obviously clears everything up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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