Kelvin Benjamin Signs a 1-Year Deal with Kansas City; Has a Chance to Impress with Watkins Likely Out Until the Playoffs

[TroutDog]

The Athletic has an interesting article on him:

 

”The reality is that Benjamin was largely misunderstood. His body language wasn’t perfect, and he undoubtedly rubbed some people in the building the wrong way, but he had his supporters, too. It’s believed one of Benjamin’s problems was that he was pressing too much. This was a contract year for Benjamin, and every drop was eating him up. He hinted at that when he said this season was the worst of his entire football career and that he was looking forward to a fresh start.”

 

i believe it’s important to recognize that we have a sliver of the story, at best, when trashing these guys. I get it’s a message board but...

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Misterbluesky said:

KC has too pay him about 550 k a game of he signs.

 

Nah.  He cleared waivers, so they are free to negotiate a contract with him.

 

Whether or not he double-dips or the Bills have it subtracted from the ~$2M they owe him, depends on contract details.

[JMF2006]

Mahommes MVP season run just came to a screeching halt

 

10 targets 8 drops per game 

2 minutes ago, TroutDog said:

The Athletic has an interesting article on him:

 

”The reality is that Benjamin was largely misunderstood. His body language wasn’t perfect, and he undoubtedly rubbed some people in the building the wrong way, but he had his supporters, too. It’s believed one of Benjamin’s problems was that he was pressing too much. This was a contract year for Benjamin, and every drop was eating him up. He hinted at that when he said this season was the worst of his entire football career and that he was looking forward to a fresh start.”

 

i believe it’s important to recognize that we have a sliver of the story, at best, when trashing these guys. I get it’s a message board but...

 

I feel so bad for the millionaire man/child  

[billsfan89]

I am not shocked that some team would want to kick the tires on KB. Teams are very thirsty for WR play and there aren't many decent WR's on the market so bringing a guy in for a workout who just hit the market makes sense. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

54 minutes ago, Magox said:

He should exceed there, Sammy Watkins is the best WR in the league at decoying, should open KB up for more passes.

 

Watkins is such a decoy, he hasn't been on the field since early in the game Nov 19th.  Stealth decoy.

[JMF2006]

31 minutes ago, BillsRdue said:

So this fat-ass do nothing wanker can get paid twice for sucking his way out of town.  If that is true the CBA, owners and players union need to get this fixed. 

 

What incentive does a player with a guaranteed contract have to play well. Benjamin basically gives no effort, sucks to the point the team is forced to drop him, then picks up a paycheck from that team, goes to another team and gets paid again. He finally performs well and cashes in again. This is madness! There is no way in any other profession on earth could you perform like this and not be punished.

 

Don't worry..... they will raise ticket prices to cover it

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

6 minutes ago, JMF2006 said:

 

Don't worry..... they will raise ticket prices to cover it

 

 

...or get POPEYES as a major sponsor.......Yolo found him (see above)............

[LSHMEAB]

40 minutes ago, BillsRdue said:

So this fat-ass do nothing wanker can get paid twice for sucking his way out of town.  If that is true the CBA, owners and players union need to get this fixed. 

 

What incentive does a player with a guaranteed contract have to play well.

Uhhh, to get a new contract? KB had every incentive in the world to play well this season.

[H2o]

Maybe they're looking at him as a backup TE for Kelce?

[LSHMEAB]

16 minutes ago, TroutDog said:

The Athletic has an interesting article on him:

 

”The reality is that Benjamin was largely misunderstood. His body language wasn’t perfect, and he undoubtedly rubbed some people in the building the wrong way, but he had his supporters, too. It’s believed one of Benjamin’s problems was that he was pressing too much. This was a contract year for Benjamin, and every drop was eating him up. He hinted at that when he said this season was the worst of his entire football career and that he was looking forward to a fresh start.”

 

i believe it’s important to recognize that we have a sliver of the story, at best, when trashing these guys. I get it’s a message board but...

You could feel the disappointment when he dropped that would be TD against NYJ.

 

I'm glad the guy is no longer a Bill, but some people spend way too much time analyzing body language, etc. We have no idea what's actually in his heart.

 

His poor play spoke for itself, but I think some of the criticism is unwarranted. He's no longer the Bills problem.

[C.Biscuit97]

24 minutes ago, TroutDog said:

The Athletic has an interesting article on him:

 

”The reality is that Benjamin was largely misunderstood. His body language wasn’t perfect, and he undoubtedly rubbed some people in the building the wrong way, but he had his supporters, too. It’s believed one of Benjamin’s problems was that he was pressing too much. This was a contract year for Benjamin, and every drop was eating him up. He hinted at that when he said this season was the worst of his entire football career and that he was looking forward to a fresh start.”

 

i believe it’s important to recognize that we have a sliver of the story, at best, when trashing these guys. I get it’s a message board but...

He was fat, unmotivated, and declining in production in Carolina.  

[jwhit34]

He should add 10 pounds and become a TE. 

 

Or maybe lose 10 pounds and become a TE...

Edited December 6, 2018 by jwhit34

[SoCal Deek]

7 minutes ago, jwhit34 said:

He should add 10 pounds and become a TE. 

 

Or maybe lose 10 pounds and become a TE...

He should add 50 pounds and become a spectator.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, TroutDog said:

The Athletic has an interesting article on him:

 

”The reality is that Benjamin was largely misunderstood. His body language wasn’t perfect, and he undoubtedly rubbed some people in the building the wrong way, but he had his supporters, too. It’s believed one of Benjamin’s problems was that he was pressing too much. This was a contract year for Benjamin, and every drop was eating him up. He hinted at that when he said this season was the worst of his entire football career and that he was looking forward to a fresh start.”

 

i believe it’s important to recognize that we have a sliver of the story, at best, when trashing these guys. I get it’s a message board but...

 

That's an interesting article (nice to give the link, BTW, even though it's pay - folks can get a trial if desired)

 

Normally I respect Fairburn, but I really don't quite buy this article overall. 

" According to a source, the Bills’ strength staff loved Benjamin and had no issues with his effort. Publicly, Benjamin is often knocked as lazy and out of shape, but that view wasn’t shared by everyone in the building. Benjamin’s attitude and work ethic had nothing to do with his release. "

 

So Benjamin put in the effort in the weight room.  I just don't buy Fairburn's contention that KB's attitude and work ethic had nothing to do with his release. 

He even contradicts himself with quotes elsewhere in the article:

"McDermott has talked about the need to have a veteran in each position room to show the younger guys the way to perform. When asked if Benjamin has embraced that role, McDermott focused the attention on newly signed receiver Deonte Thompson. “I think part of the move in bringing DT back is trying to get a guy in that room that embodies some of those qualities that we’re looking for,” McDermott said. “DT has energy and has a good relationship with Kelvin and is a hard worker, so there’s certain things obviously that we’re looking for.”

 

In other words, No, KB had not embraced that veteran role and DT was brought in in part to be the leader KB wasn't being, and in a last-ditch attempt to reach KB.

 

Fairburn says "There’s a strong belief that Benjamin hasn’t been the same player since he suffered a second knee injury last season, tearing his meniscus in his second game in Buffalo. Benjamin missed two games with the injury and then played through it for the rest of the season. He had offseason surgery to repair the injury but never regained his explosiveness. Benjamin arrived in Buffalo having already undergone surgery to a repair the ACL in his other knee in 2015. The injuries robbed Benjamin of the burst he showed in his 1,000-yard, nine-touchdown rookie season with the Panthers in 2014."  That may be, and it could in part explain some of his route running mistakes such as rounding out his route on Josh Allen's INT.  But it doesn't explain all the balls that have hit him in the hands and he's "alligator armed"

 

Interesting article, but I don't buy it.  I don't want to call a guy names, but my eyeballs say KB was playing as though his head and heart were not in the game and that his attitude and work ethic (on the football field) had everything to do with his release.

[Augie]

2 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

No. He cleared waivers so his previous contract is done. KC is free to negotiate any deal they'd like with him.

 

That’s what I was thinking. 

2 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

I would be ok with it because it means no NE in the Super Bowl.

 

Whatever it takes

 

Life can be a series of ugly choices! 

[Beast]

So, they dropped the fried in honor of Benjamin?

 

It’s now just Kentucky Chicken?

Edited December 6, 2018 by Binghamton Beast

[Buffalo716]

Kelvin loves him some BBQ pork ribs... and beef ribs... also pulled pork, not to mention brisket. Who could forget about coleslaw And cornbread 

 

maybe he wants to be a Defensive Tackle ... or a competitive eater

[HOUSE]

Oh no, and the Chiefs were doing so well too!

 

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Edited December 6, 2018 by HOUSE

[The Red King]

If the Chiefs actually bite, it's a blessing for KB who will have a chance to actually put in effort, play his hardest, and try and use this last handful of games to bait the Chiefs (or another team) into a long-term signing.  If this happens we'll get to find out how much of this was a declining KB, and how much was a don't give a damn KB.

[Alphadawg7]

KB was as lethargic on the field Sundays as I have ever seen.  

[Augie]

As much as I disliked seeing what looked like lack of effort and focus, you honestly have to take a step back and wonder. What was going on in his mind?  What was bothering him physically? Emotionally? Did he not care, or was he pressing too hard? What led him to take himself out in the red zone last week? Is he just horrible when it comes to body language? Why would he appear to quit on the verge of what should have been the biggest payday of his life?  He’s trying to stay in the game, so was it just Buffalo he hated? This was curious in a way that I cannot explain. 

 

I’m as guilty as anyone about ripping this guy, but how did that come to be? I guess we’ll never know. 

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, Augie said:

As much as I disliked seeing what looked like lack of effort and focus, you honestly have to take a step back and wonder. What was going on in his mind?  What was bothering him physically? Emotionally? Did he not care, or was he pressing too hard? What led him to take himself out in the red zone last week? Is he just horrible when it comes to body language? Why would he appear to quit on the verge of what should have been the biggest payday of his life?  He’s trying to stay in the game, so was it just Buffalo he hated? This was curious in a way that I cannot explain. 

 

I’m as guilty as anyone about ripping this guy, but how did that come to be? I guess we’ll never know. 

 

 

I have wondered this all as well. I imagine the Bills tried to get to the bottom of it, and finally just had to move on. Probably best for both sides. 

 

The thing I don’t believe is that he was “pressing too hard.” If that was the case the effort would be there, if not the production. But he had neither. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:

You could feel the disappointment when he dropped that would be TD against NYJ.

I'm glad the guy is no longer a Bill, but some people spend way too much time analyzing body language, etc. We have no idea what's actually in his heart.

His poor play spoke for itself, but I think some of the criticism is unwarranted. He's no longer the Bills problem.

 

Amen to that last.

 

I agree with you about the body-language analysts.  But the route-running and ball-dropping analysts have a point. 

Ball hits your hands and you're an NFL wideout, you need to catch 'em more often than not.

[Misterbluesky]

39 minutes ago, Augie said:

As much as I disliked seeing what looked like lack of effort and focus, you honestly have to take a step back and wonder. What was going on in his mind?  What was bothering him physically? Emotionally? Did he not care, or was he pressing too hard? What led him to take himself out in the red zone last week? Is he just horrible when it comes to body language? Why would he appear to quit on the verge of what should have been the biggest payday of his life?  He’s trying to stay in the game, so was it just Buffalo he hated? This was curious in a way that I cannot explain. 

 

I’m as guilty as anyone about ripping this guy, but how did that come to be? I guess we’ll never know. 

 

 

When you find out,call Cam Newton.

[K-9]

3 hours ago, TroutDog said:

The Athletic has an interesting article on him:

 

”The reality is that Benjamin was largely misunderstood. His body language wasn’t perfect, and he undoubtedly rubbed some people in the building the wrong way, but he had his supporters, too. It’s believed one of Benjamin’s problems was that he was pressing too much. This was a contract year for Benjamin, and every drop was eating him up. He hinted at that when he said this season was the worst of his entire football career and that he was looking forward to a fresh start.”

 

i believe it’s important to recognize that we have a sliver of the story, at best, when trashing these guys. I get it’s a message board but...

A sliver of the story? 

 

His game tape tells the ENTIRE story. Over and over and over and over again. There is no “misunderstanding” that. 

 

Doesn't matter if he was “pressing” (a nicer way of saying “choked”, btw) or if he got along with folks in the building or not. He was a terrible player while here. Period.

[John from Riverside]

5 minutes ago, K-9 said:

A sliver of the story? 

 

His game tape tells the ENTIRE story. Over and over and over and over again. There is no “misunderstanding” that. 

 

Doesn't matter if he was “pressing” (a nicer way of saying “choked”, btw) or if he got along with folks in the building or not. He was a terrible player while here. Period.

I have no ill will towards him

 

In a way he did us a favor...he showed us he was not a number 1 guy BEFORE Beane made a mistake and gave him a new contract.....

 

We should be THANKING him

[TAinLack.]

KB - don't let the door hit you where the Good Lord split you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheFunPolice]

I will literally cry tears of joy if he goes there and becomes a serious player for them, allowing them to knock NE off in the playoffs.

 

After that, I don't care what happens and football just becomes fun again.

 

If it seems like I make everything about NE, it's because that's what the NFL has become. It's a show about the Patriots, with the other teams added in to round out their story. Even those Dallas and SF teams of the 80's and 90's eventually went away.

[without a drought]

I'm glad that they moved on from him while there is still games left to evaluate the younger guys. The scary part is that McD and Beane should have known exactly what they were getting in Benjamin. They still have a lot to prove in evaluating talent on offense.

[Boatdrinks]

18 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

I will literally cry tears of joy if he goes there and becomes a serious player for them, allowing them to knock NE off in the playoffs.

 

After that, I don't care what happens and football just becomes fun again.

 

If it seems like I make everything about NE, it's because that's what the NFL has become. It's a show about the Patriots, with the other teams added in to round out their story. Even those Dallas and SF teams of the 80's and 90's eventually went away.

I couldn’t agree more, and can’t wait until it’s over. As if the Pats* never getting flagged for offensive holding isn’t bad enough, almost all rule changes seem designed with NE in mind as well. I think the goal is to see if Brady can play until he’s 50. Just hope the evil Pats empire doesn’t get anywhere near the SB this year. KC might be the foil, but they need to win out unless NE stumbles at PIT. The Pats* best chance at losing an AFC title game has been away from Foxboro. 

[Heavy Kevi]

I am interested to see if he goes the way of Dareus (just doesn't want to play here and will actually try somewhere else), or if he goes the way of Mario (is just done trying).

 

You would think a WR would be pumped to be on a team with a blue chip prospect at QB.

[stevewin]

4 hours ago, TroutDog said:

The Athletic has an interesting article on him:

 

”The reality is that Benjamin was largely misunderstood. His body language wasn’t perfect, and he undoubtedly rubbed some people in the building the wrong way, but he had his supporters, too. It’s believed one of Benjamin’s problems was that he was pressing too much. This was a contract year for Benjamin, and every drop was eating him up. He hinted at that when he said this season was the worst of his entire football career and that he was looking forward to a fresh start.”

 

i believe it’s important to recognize that we have a sliver of the story, at best, when trashing these guys. I get it’s a message board but...

Pressing too much?  I don't know what this guy was watching, but whatever is the opposite of pressing too much is what KB was doing jogging apathetically around the football field.  WTH

[LSHMEAB]

1 minute ago, stevewin said:

Pressing too much?  I don't know what this guy was watching, but whatever is the opposite of pressing too much is what KB was doing jogging apathetically around the football field.  WTH

To be honest, I think he's more soft mentally than lazy. His lack of production had to be wearing on him.

 

Neither is a good quality, and it was time to move on.

[stevewin]

2 hours ago, Augie said:

As much as I disliked seeing what looked like lack of effort and focus, you honestly have to take a step back and wonder. What was going on in his mind?  What was bothering him physically? Emotionally? Did he not care, or was he pressing too hard? What led him to take himself out in the red zone last week? Is he just horrible when it comes to body language? Why would he appear to quit on the verge of what should have been the biggest payday of his life?  He’s trying to stay in the game, so was it just Buffalo he hated? This was curious in a way that I cannot explain. 

 

I’m as guilty as anyone about ripping this guy, but how did that come to be? I guess we’ll never know. 

 

 

I was honestly wondering if there were some mental/emotional problems - his apathy and lack of effort out on the field for the whole world to see was so over the top (under the bottom?) - it just wasn't normal behavior.  So strange.

[Kelly the Dog]

I think the way he runs and looks makes him look like he is loafing sometimes when he is not. 

 

AND I think he loafs sometimes, which is intolerable. 

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, stevewin said:

I was honestly wondering if there were some mental/emotional problems - his apathy and lack of effort out on the field for the whole world to see was so over the top (under the bottom?) - it just wasn't normal behavior.  So strange.

 

I’m not trying to be old and tired with this message, but it’s just not right to judge as we really don’t know. Again, I’ve been all over the guy in frustration, but I back off now as something just wasn’t right. 

[MrEpsYtown]

Should have traded him at the deadline for Mitch Morse and Chris Conley ?

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[HappyDays]

Since Andy Reid is an offensive genius, that automatically makes it a good signing.

[RiotAct]

2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

by ‘weapon’, does he mean “piece of dead weight”?