Mark Vader Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: He wasn't signed for his fit in Rex's scheme he was signed for his special teams play. Then Shaq went down, Manny Lawson struggled and had a PED issue and suddenly Lorax was in. I was for cutting him last year because as an off the ball backer in this scheme going sideline to sideline he struggled. They hit on the way to use him effectively in that playoff game in Jacksonville and he has been lights out this year. If he wants a 1 year extension I'd give him one. I felt the same way. Alexander did not look that good last year. Then we get to the Jacksonville game and he played his best game of the season. Since then he has been playing outstanding and he's a great leader. I understand that he's not an every down player, but I would love to see the Bills give him a new contract. I would give him another 2 year deal. He would be worth it, and if we do draft another linebacker, it would be great to have him there as a teacher and to hold the position down until said new linebacker is ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I suspect that he will be a huge priority in the off-season. Alexander is a leader on and off the field and probably a favorite of McD's. A guy that gets "the process". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 he absolutely should be extended....but we should also take a latter round Milano type in this years draft to groom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Absolutely! His leadership is invaluable and he's still a stud on the field. Give him a nice 1-2 year deal. He deserves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I still think it’s crazy that he has a daughter older than Tremaine Edmunds Where's my 'wow' emocon…? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Yes yes and yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Give him another year for the money he is on now...around $3M.. Us optimists think the team might be playoff bound next year and he deserves to be a part of that campaign.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Lorax should be brought back. I think he will probably command about 6 million a year and would be easily worth it. Dude has 6.5 sacks with 4 games left to play and he plays at the LB position for a lot of snaps. He also is by all accounts a great locker room guy and adds tremendous versatility to the defense being able to anchor the line backer position and play DE and DT in pass rushing situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 NOOOO! He's eating up a roster spot that could be had by a younger, more athletic player. If he can be had for vet minimum, I wouldn't hate it. The main thing this defense is lacking is another edge rusher opposite Hughes. We need a younger, more athletic version of Lorax. I think that'll help us out quite a bit in the RZ, where the D has struggled mightily. I'm over Lorax the football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 hes probably my favorite player on defense. he gives a great interview too. i really hope he retires a bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Lorax is still playing at q very high level. Linebacker is a position that lacks depth. Keep signing him to one year contract as long as he is affective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Seems like one of the most likeable players the Bills have had in the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Numbers don't lie. I'm shocked to see him at #4 in pressure percentage because I rarely notice him anymore during the games. Still want to get more athletic at that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 Just now, LSHMEAB said: NOOOO! He's eating up a roster spot that could be had by a younger, more athletic player. If he can be had for vet minimum, I wouldn't hate it. The main thing this defense is lacking is another edge rusher opposite Hughes. We need a younger, more athletic version of Lorax. I think that'll help us out quite a bit in the RZ, where the D has struggled mightily. I'm over Lorax the football player. I don’t think it’s one or the other. If there is a young, more athletic player they want to add as an edge rusher they can give him Mike Love’s roster spot (or whoever). The issue is productivity, regardless of age. And he’s still pretty athletic or he wouldn’t be producing at such a high level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 One would certainly think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t think it’s one or the other. If there is a young, more athletic player they want to add as an edge rusher they can give him Mike Love’s roster spot (or whoever). The issue is productivity, regardless of age. And he’s still pretty athletic or he wouldn’t be producing at such a high level. Fair enough. As good as his numbers look, I just can't see him performing at a high level much longer, if at all. If they bring him back to a ONE YEAR DEAL, my hope would be that they don't view the position as settled. Gotta get more athletic in the front 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) Has definitely earned it thus far! However, what would Hoodie do? One of the sneaky secrets he’s developed to sustained success over there is knowing when to let an established veteran walk before their play noticeably deteriorates on the field—Lawyer Milloy, Bledsoe come to mind or even Solder this year, among other examples. Would we live to regret an extension if his play catches up to his age/road miles? Look, I love the guy, his heart, enthusiasm, leadership etc., but I do worry about his age, call me crazy. Maybe a short term deal with a club option and continue to develop depth behind him JIC? Edited December 6, 2018 by NoHuddleKelly12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Fair enough. As good as his numbers look, I just can't see him performing at a high level much longer, if at all. If they bring him back to a ONE YEAR DEAL, my hope would be that they don't view the position as settled. Gotta get more athletic in the front 7. I wouldn’t anticipate that. They seem to be pretty forward thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Pay him whatever, he and Kyle are the heart and soul of our D and he can still rush the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 One year deals are easy peasy. Throw some incentives in there and of course you keep the guy. He's got Jerry Hughes disruptiveness, but without the pyschopathic gene. LB's that can rush, cover AND tackle are gold. There is zero chance the Bills let him go, it's not like we're deep at LB anyway. Was this a rhetorical question post? Yeah, I fell for it..... He reminds me of Fred Jackson, who still had himself in great shape and was a huge team asset late in his career. (you know, until Whaley felt that Booby Dixon was a better call) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) I know many people want to upgrade here, but does everyone realize that Lorax is the 2 down SAM backer? Half the time, when we actually have three linebackers in the game we are in an under look where Lorax is playing on the line. The majority of his playing time comes as a pass rusher in the nickel. Yes it makes sense to get younger and more athletic, but we are not often in base 4-3 looks. Lorax has played very little off ball SAM this year. Edited December 6, 2018 by MrEpsYtown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 41 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I know many people want to upgrade here, but does everyone realize that Lorax is the 2 down SAM backer? Half the time, when we actually have three linebackers in the game we are in an under look where Lorax is playing on the line. The majority of his playing time comes as a pass rusher in the nickel. Yes it makes sense to get younger and more athletic, but we are not often in base 4-3 looks. Lorax has played very little off ball SAM this year. Good points. Signing Lorax for another year would be smart. No sense opening up another need when there already so many others. They can draft his replacement in 2020. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 He's got another year or two left in him. Definitely sign him up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Did someone say the Bills were looking to dump him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 17 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Did someone say the Bills were looking to dump him? His contract is up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I love Lorax. Additionally, what a great time for us to be in "rent a player" situations. In other words, given the room we have we can make decent offers to players who are on short term deals. Lorax at 3.5 as was suggested earlier and if he has room in the tank...great. If Williams wants to come back on a limited basis...him too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I'm pretty sure Lorenzo and Kyle have jobs here for as long as they want. If either guy wants to keep playing, all they gotta do is say the word and I'm sure McBeane would draw up a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: UFA this year, age 35 He can't keep up with a FB in pass coverage (Jacksonville game for example),that's a problem.He's a stud of a family man,plays wise and conservative but he's getting the dreaded "piano feet".... a fan favorite for sure...but he will not be a starter here,next year.No way...depth,locker room leadership is a given though..3-3.5 for one more year which will probably be a courtesy move by the "Beane Counter".just my two cents worth of jibber jabber.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Of course- 2 years, 7 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 No do not sign him. We do not need dominant savvy veteran leader players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmr60 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: UFA this year, age 35 YES!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 31 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: No do not sign him. We do not need dominant savvy veteran leader players. They sound a bit anti-process. Trying to stand out in a crowd with good play and strong leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 He’s on WGR right now and they asked him if Edmunds could be his son and then he said yes because his daughter is 23. Then clarified she is his step-daughter. That makes more sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Aye man I really just want him and Kyle Williams around this team. We still need their leadership next year and they can still play a big part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: NOOOO! He's eating up a roster spot that could be had by a younger, more athletic player. If he can be had for vet minimum, I wouldn't hate it. The main thing this defense is lacking is another edge rusher opposite Hughes. We need a younger, more athletic version of Lorax. I think that'll help us out quite a bit in the RZ, where the D has struggled mightily. I'm over Lorax the football player. He’s having arguably his best year all around year as a cog in a solid unit and you over him as a player..... I agree we obviously need to be thinking about a replacement immediately due to his age..... But WOW, the things people say on here. SMH Edited December 7, 2018 by Stank_Nasty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 In his interview this AM, he said he hasn’t decided if he will play next year but will decide with his family on the offseason. He said if he decides to play he hopes that he and the Bills can come to an agreeement and he can retire here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Stank_Nasty said: He’s having arguably his best year all around year as a cog in a solid unit and you over him as a player..... I agree we obviously need to be thinking about a replacement immediately due to his age..... But WOW, the things people say on here. SMH He's a fantastic rotational guy on a cheap vet contract. If someone comes in and outperforms him that's exactly what we want. Until then he's set a high bar (and that's not a bad thing!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 On 12/6/2018 at 10:48 AM, RyanC883 said: good point. If not, I could see him being an announcer. Would be nice to have a defensive guy in the broadcast booth. Most seem to be offensive guys lately. And it would be nice to have an announcer who played special teams. I would not be surprised to see him be snapper if long snapper was hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: He’s having arguably his best year all around year as a cog in a solid unit and you over him as a player..... I agree we obviously need to be thinking about a replacement immediately due to his age..... But WOW, the things people say on here. SMH Fair enough. The numbers refute my take on Lorax and I always defer to numbers. That being said, the lack of a dynamic edge athlete is preventing this defense from making the jump from good to elite. Too many TD's in the RZ. Get a freak athlete coming off the edge and I believe that works itself out. Does anyone have a better idea as to how to fix the awful RZ defense? Love to hear it. Edited December 7, 2018 by LSHMEAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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