Virgil Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) I haven’t seen much attention called to fact that the Chargers are 7-2 with the guy we let walk away to be their coach. Are those out there thinking we made a mistake or do you chalk it up to having Rivers? Either way, I’m happy for him and glad he is making the most of his opportunity. Edited November 18, 2018 by Virgil 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Lynne’s doing a good job. Having Rivers certainly helps. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Virgil said: I haven’t seen much attention called to fact that the Chargers are 7-2 with the guy we let walk away to be their coach. Are those out there thinking we made a mistake or do you chalk it up to having Rivers? Either way, I’m happy for him and glad he is making the most of his opportunity. Having Rivers sure doesn't hurt, but I'm sure his coaching style also a factor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Rivers...but they also hit on some good D players, have an underrated #1 WR and a very good RB. 7-2 and Bosa's playing his first game today. This team is a real threat I think and Lynn certainly isn't doing anything to hold them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coffin Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) Credit to Lynn for taking a good situation for him to instantly jump in and have success. Nice to come in and have a top QB, RB, DE Edited November 18, 2018 by Laughing Coffin 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I believe that it was the right decision to hire someone who didn't have ties to Rex Ryan. If Lynn had our roster he'd be 3-7 too. The main difference is we would have had Geno Smith throwing INTs instead of Peterman. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Lynne’s doing a good job. Having Rivers certainly helps. It's a disgrace that rivers does not have a ring or even a super bowl appearance. He's always been a Top 5-7 qb talent. Horrendous coaching and front office are to blame along with franchise uncertainty. They don't even play home games now. Finally with a quality coach like A Lynn rivers may get his ring even while playing no home games. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Anthony Lynn is a good coach. Did we make a mistake? I'm not sure yet. Lynn could lose Rivers and then miss on a QB in the draft and be out of the league in 5 years. While Allen may be struggling now he may develop into a franchise QB and McD has a gig in Buffalo for the next 15 years. Data inconclusive. Who knows? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I don’t think he’s a bad coach, but I don’t know yet if he’s a coach that would do any better with our roster than McD has. He has a far superior roster/QB situation. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, Laughing Coffin said: Credit to Lynn for taking a good situation for him to instantly jump in and have success. Nice to come in and have a top QB, RB, DE I do give him credit for sustaining their prior success. This is a situation where a coach was hired that didn’t automatically rip everything down to it “his way” with “his guys”. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 27 minutes ago, Virgil said: I haven’t seen much attention called to fact that the Chargers are 7-2 with the guy we let walk away to be their coach. Are those out there thinking we made a mistake or do you chalk it up to having Rivers? Either way, I’m happy for him and glad he is making the most of his opportunity. Rivers, Allen, Gordon Ana a great defense help. Not much he really has to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 having rivers does help but he is a good coach. as far as letting him walk away, well, I mean, trust the process, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: I do give him credit for sustaining their prior success. This is a situation where a coach was hired that didn’t automatically rip everything down to it “his way” with “his guys”. The GM stayed in place so he didn’t have the whole say there. He reports to him. They also kept both the OC and DC so there weren’t scheme changes to adjust to like there normally is. Also, it was not an easy transition. They started out 0-4 last year. He’s pretty militant in his approach which is the opposite of what McCoy was like. Edited November 18, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Lynn was handed a really good team. McDermott interviewed for this job as well. Wouldn't be surprised if McDermott had more success with the Chargers, but I think he wanted a team he could completely re build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 McD wowed the Pegulas, otherwise I think it was AL's job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Lynn had a stacked team last year and a future hall of fame QB, and his team missed the playoffs. Meanwhile, McDermott had a backup for QB and a roster depleted of talent. His team made the playoffs. I am far more impressed with McDermott than I am with Lynn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 33 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t think he’s a bad coach, but I don’t know yet if he’s a coach that would do any better with our roster than McD has. He has a far superior roster/QB situation. Is some of that the fault of McD though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 The only thing I think is relevant outside of having Rivers is the fact the Lynn is an offensive coach and McDermott is a defensive coach. As debated to exhaustion, most believe you need to have an offensive minded coach to succeed in today’s NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 45 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Lynne’s doing a good job. Having Rivers certainly helps. Rivers does certainly help but Lynn didn't feel the need to jettison talent and suck to try and get better. He didn't come into a perfect situation, he's made everything better without the fictitious need to be bad first. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GunnerBill Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 28 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The GM stayed in place so he didn’t have the whole say there. He reports to him. They also kept both the OC and DC so there weren’t scheme changes to adjust to like there normally is. Also, it was not an easy transition. They started out 0-4 last year. He’s pretty militant in his approach which is the opposite of what McCoy was like. He did change the DC... he brought Gus Bradley in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieG Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, pop gun said: Rivers does certainly help but Lynn didn't feel the need to jettison talent and suck to try and get better. He didn't come into a perfect situation, he's made everything better without the fictitious need to be bad first. Exactly. The Chargers were 4-12 and 5-11 in the previous 2 years before he took over. In 2016, they were towards the bottom of the NFL in D, and that was with a good pass rush. He did in LA what he did with the Bills' O in 2016. He built on what he had and improved on some things. I was really surprised how well he handled himself after taking over as OC in Buffalo, happily surprised. When you look at HIS process, I'm not surprised he's doing well. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) I know this much........Lynn was a better fit for taking the Bills straight into SB contention. He guided the best offense the Bills have fielded since their second SB season. Turning around a defense is relatively easy in the NFL...........you can always find good DC's like a Sean McDermott.........but when you have good offense you want to build on that. For those that point to McD making the playoffs and not Lynn.........well Lynn's team absolutely destroyed the Bills in a signature "decision" game for McD.........and the Chargers were generally the much better team but their kicker cost them DEARLY..........while the Bills weren't very good but their kicker was amazing. 35 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He did change the DC... he brought Gus Bradley in. Yeah Yoyo's memory fails him...........Lynn and Bradley were considered a package deal. The excuses about the Bills changing GM are laughable..........the f*cking HC served as de facto GM and then hand-picked his close friend to be his GM.........it shouldn't get any more favorable than that.? Edited November 18, 2018 by BADOLBILZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 32 minutes ago, Virgil said: The only thing I think is relevant outside of having Rivers is the fact the Lynn is an offensive coach and McDermott is a defensive coach. As debated to exhaustion, most believe you need to have an offensive minded coach to succeed in today’s NFL For consistency/longevity sake you need to be an offensive driven team the way the NFL is constructed..........if you have an offensive minded HC you are way ahead of the game..........but as Tomlin proves in Pittsburgh you can get by with a durable, system versatile stud QB and a bunch of playmakers. On defense you are only as strong as your weakest links.........if you have a couple mediocre players in the lineup they will get exposed and cost you dearly........and then you need depth on the DL and secondary...........because of that it's just too expensive in terms of chips and cap space to maintain a top defense and still be serviceable on offense over the long haul. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Worse travesty is not making Frank Reich our HC. His offense is dynamic and will be really fun to watch. They're just now getting into their groove and I think they'll be going on a late season run. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: For consistency/longevity sake you need to be an offensive driven team the way the NFL is constructed..........if you have an offensive minded HC you are way ahead of the game..........but as Tomlin proves in Pittsburgh you can get by with a durable, system versatile stud QB and a bunch of playmakers. It's tough to make this argument since the program with the most consistency and longevity, by far, in history is run by Bill Belichick. More importantly, than the background of the head coach, is getting the right coordinators installed, especially on the other side of the ball from your own specialty. Edited November 18, 2018 by SWATeam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Virgil said: I haven’t seen much attention called to fact that the Chargers are 7-2 with the guy we let walk away to be their coach. Are those out there thinking we made a mistake or do you chalk it up to having Rivers? Either way, I’m happy for him and glad he is making the most of his opportunity. I was riding the Frank Reich train!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Virgil said: I haven’t seen much attention called to fact that the Chargers are 7-2 with the guy we let walk away to be their coach. Are those out there thinking we made a mistake or do you chalk it up to having Rivers? Either way, I’m happy for him and glad he is making the most of his opportunity. ...agree...just quietly goes about his business....would be nice to see Phillip cash in some day with a ring.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, SWATeam said: It's tough to make this argument since the program with the most consistency and longevity, by far, in history is run by Bill Belichick. More importantly than the background of the head coach, is getting the right coordinators installed, especially on the other side of the ball from your own specialty. Shhhhhh.… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Just what the board needed, another thread questioning the hiring of McDermott ?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I like McDermott. Give Mcdermott an offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I think with Lynn, we would have kept Tyrod. Presuming Gus Bradley was the D Coordinator under Lynn, we may have seen a similar result year one with the Bills. Chargers have had a ton of talent for years, but never had the right coaching combination. The offense put up a lot of points under Rivers, but they had to since their defense was so bad. There wasn't a lot to dismantle on that team. The Bills on the other hand never seem to have a cohesive plan on either side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: I like McDermott. Give Mcdermott an offense. He had one, he chose to dismantle the whole effing thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 He got his chance but couldn't beat the Jets with EJ and Cardale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gettysburg Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Virgil said: I haven’t seen much attention called to fact that the Chargers are 7-2 with the guy we let walk away to be their coach. Are those out there thinking we made a mistake or do you chalk it up to having Rivers? Either way, I’m happy for him and glad he is making the most of his opportunity. He is a good coach but has a Hall of Fame quarterback. The Bills also made the playoffs last year. He didn't and he had a heck of a lot more talent. I wouldn't want to play him in the playoffs but he isn't beating the Chiefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, pop gun said: He had one, he chose to dismantle the whole effing thing! Because for so long regimes here didn't start from scratch. They just tried to add to the existing team and for 20 years it didn't work. Someone comes in and does it differently and everyone who is shortsighted can't understand what's happening. It's the same plan that Philadelphia and the Rams used. You NEED to have a foundation of young players before you have big contracts and Buffalo already had huge contracts which limits their possibilities and window of success. They are looking for long term success not a one and done year. Realize what is happening here my dude. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, pop gun said: He had one, he chose to dismantle the whole effing thing! The offense was good, but was it sustainable? I remember it was lots of long bombs to Watkins and not a lot of long sustained drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: Because for so long regimes here didn't start from scratch. They just tried to add to the existing team and for 20 years it didn't work. Someone comes in and does it differently and everyone who is shortsighted can't understand what's happening. It's the same plan that Philadelphia and the Rams used. You NEED to have a foundation of young players before you have big contracts and Buffalo already had huge contracts which limits their possibilities and window of success. They are looking for long term success not a one and done year. Realize what is happening here my dude. You're just another one who can't see the incompetence. Keep drinking! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Just now, pop gun said: You're just another one who can't see the incompetence. Keep drinking! I don't drink my good sir haha. You do realize that this offseason will be another big roster turnover. Everyone complained about Zay Jones and he looks like a competent number 2 receiver now. Give it time my friend. Players are developing. That's what this entire season was about to begin with. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: He got his chance but couldn't beat the Jets with EJ and Cardale. Yeah, kind of a rigged "chance" I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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