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Thoughts on not making Anthony Lynn our HC?

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I haven’t seen much attention called to fact that the Chargers are 7-2 with the guy we let walk away to be their coach. 

 

Are those out there thinking we made a mistake or do you chalk it up to having Rivers?

 

Either way, I’m happy for him and glad he is making the most of his opportunity. 

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4 minutes ago, Virgil said:

I haven’t seen much attention called to fact that the Chargers are 7-2 with the guy we let walk away to be their coach. 

 

Are those out there thinking we made a mistake or do you chalk it up to having Rivers?

 

Either way, I’m happy for him and glad he is making the most of his opportunity. 

Having Rivers sure doesn't hurt, but I'm sure his coaching style also a factor!

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Rivers...but they also hit on some good D players, have an underrated #1 WR and a very good RB.  7-2 and Bosa's playing his first game today.  This team is a real threat I think and Lynn certainly isn't doing anything to hold them back.

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Credit to Lynn for taking a good situation for him to instantly jump in and have success.  Nice to come in and have a top QB, RB, DE

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I believe that it was the right decision to hire someone who didn't have ties to Rex Ryan.  If Lynn had our roster he'd be 3-7 too.  The main difference is we would have had Geno Smith throwing INTs instead of Peterman. 

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3 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Lynne’s doing a good job. Having Rivers certainly helps.

 

It's a disgrace that rivers does not have a ring or even a super bowl appearance.  He's always been a Top 5-7 qb talent.  Horrendous coaching and front office are to blame along with franchise uncertainty.  They don't even play home games now. Finally with a quality coach like A Lynn rivers may get his ring even while playing no home games.  

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Anthony Lynn is a good coach. Did we make a mistake? I'm not sure yet. Lynn could lose Rivers and then miss on a QB in the draft and be out of the league in 5 years. While Allen may be struggling now he may develop into a franchise QB and McD has a gig in Buffalo for the next 15 years.

 

 

Data inconclusive. Who knows?

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I don’t think he’s a bad coach, but I don’t know yet if he’s a coach that would do any better with our roster than McD has. He has a far superior roster/QB situation. 

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6 minutes ago, Laughing Coffin said:

Credit to Lynn for taking a good situation for him to instantly jump in and have success.  Nice to come in and have a top QB, RB, DE

 

I do give him credit for sustaining their prior success. This is a situation where a coach was hired that didn’t automatically rip everything down to it “his way” with “his guys”. 

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27 minutes ago, Virgil said:

I haven’t seen much attention called to fact that the Chargers are 7-2 with the guy we let walk away to be their coach. 

 

Are those out there thinking we made a mistake or do you chalk it up to having Rivers?

 

Either way, I’m happy for him and glad he is making the most of his opportunity. 

Rivers, Allen, Gordon Ana a great defense help.  Not much he really has to do.  

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having rivers does help but he is a good coach. as far as letting him walk away, well, I mean, trust the process, no?

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12 minutes ago, Saint Doug said:

 

I do give him credit for sustaining their prior success. This is a situation where a coach was hired that didn’t automatically rip everything down to it “his way” with “his guys”. 

The GM stayed in place so he didn’t have the whole say there. He reports to him. They also kept both the OC and DC so there weren’t scheme changes to adjust to like there normally is. Also, it was not an easy transition. They started out 0-4 last year. He’s pretty militant in his approach which is the opposite of what McCoy was like. 

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Lynn was handed a really good team. McDermott interviewed for this job as well. Wouldn't be surprised if McDermott had more success with the Chargers, but I think he wanted a team he could completely re build 

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McD wowed the Pegulas, otherwise I think it was AL's job.

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Lynn had a stacked team last year and a future hall of fame QB, and his team missed the playoffs.

 

Meanwhile, McDermott had a backup for QB and a roster depleted of talent. His team made the playoffs.

 

I am far more impressed with McDermott than I am with Lynn.

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33 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I don’t think he’s a bad coach, but I don’t know yet if he’s a coach that would do any better with our roster than McD has. He has a far superior roster/QB situation. 

 

Is some of that the fault of McD though?

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The only thing I think is relevant outside of having Rivers is the fact the Lynn is an offensive coach and McDermott is a defensive coach. 

 

As debated to exhaustion, most believe you need to have an offensive minded coach to succeed in today’s NFL

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45 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Lynne’s doing a good job. Having Rivers certainly helps.

Rivers does certainly help but Lynn didn't feel the need to jettison talent and suck to try and get better. He didn't come into a perfect situation, he's made everything better without the fictitious need to be bad first.

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28 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

The GM stayed in place so he didn’t have the whole say there. He reports to him. They also kept both the OC and DC so there weren’t scheme changes to adjust to like there normally is. Also, it was not an easy transition. They started out 0-4 last year. He’s pretty militant in his approach which is the opposite of what McCoy was like. 

 

He did change the DC... he brought Gus Bradley in. 

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3 minutes ago, pop gun said:

Rivers does certainly help but Lynn didn't feel the need to jettison talent and suck to try and get better. He didn't come into a perfect situation, he's made everything better without the fictitious need to be bad first.

Exactly. 

 

The Chargers were 4-12 and 5-11 in the previous 2 years before he took over. In 2016, they were towards the bottom of the NFL in D, and that was with a good pass rush.

 

He did in LA what he did with the Bills' O in 2016. He built on what he had and improved on some things.

 

I was really surprised how well he handled himself after taking over as OC in Buffalo, happily surprised.

 

When you look at HIS process, I'm not surprised he's doing well.

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I know this much........Lynn was a better fit for taking the Bills straight into SB contention.

 

He guided the best offense the Bills have fielded since their second SB season.

 

Turning around a defense is relatively easy in the NFL...........you can always find good DC's like a Sean McDermott.........but when you have good offense you want to build on that.

 

For those that point to McD making the playoffs and not Lynn.........well Lynn's team absolutely destroyed the Bills in a signature "decision" game for McD.........and the Chargers were generally the much better team but their kicker cost them DEARLY..........while the Bills weren't very good but their kicker was amazing.

35 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He did change the DC... he brought Gus Bradley in. 

 

 

Yeah Yoyo's memory fails him...........Lynn and Bradley were considered a package deal.

 

The excuses about the Bills changing GM are laughable..........the f*cking HC served as de facto GM and then hand-picked his close friend to be his GM.........it shouldn't get any more favorable than that.😂

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32 minutes ago, Virgil said:

The only thing I think is relevant outside of having Rivers is the fact the Lynn is an offensive coach and McDermott is a defensive coach. 

 

As debated to exhaustion, most believe you need to have an offensive minded coach to succeed in today’s NFL

 

 

For consistency/longevity sake you need to be an offensive driven team the way the NFL is constructed..........if you have an offensive minded HC you are way ahead of the game..........but as Tomlin proves in Pittsburgh you can get by with a durable, system versatile stud QB and a bunch of playmakers.

 

On defense you are only as strong as your weakest links.........if you have a couple mediocre players in the lineup they will get exposed and cost you dearly........and then you need depth on the DL and secondary...........because of that it's just too expensive in terms of chips and cap space to maintain a top defense and still be serviceable on offense over the long haul.

 

 

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Worse travesty is not making Frank Reich our HC. His offense is dynamic and will be really fun to watch.  They're just now getting into their groove and I think they'll be going on a late season run.

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