Big Gun Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: I don't drink my good sir haha. You do realize that this offseason will be another big roster turnover. Everyone complained about Zay Jones and he looks like a competent number 2 receiver now. Give it time my friend. Players are developing. That's what this entire season was about to begin with. When and where has a complete tear down and subsequent rebuild ever worked in the NFL? I'll wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Virgil said: I haven’t seen much attention called to fact that the Chargers are 7-2 with the guy we let walk away to be their coach. Are those out there thinking we made a mistake or do you chalk it up to having Rivers? Either way, I’m happy for him and glad he is making the most of his opportunity. I was really hoping for Lynn but I think McDermott has done a solid job so far too, the QB debacle notwithstanding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 minute ago, pop gun said: When and where has a complete tear down and subsequent rebuild ever worked in the NFL? I'll wait! It happens all the time haha what are you talking about? Rams say hi lol. You need a foundation of good young players on rookie contracts so the success will last longer. Seattle did a nice job with their rebuild a few years ago drafting a lot of great talent. Now they need to reboot the team but the rebuild they did was really solid. You need to be encouraged by the recent draft success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: It happens all the time haha what are you talking about? Rams say hi lol. You need a foundation of good young players on rookie contracts so the success will last longer. Seattle did a nice job with their rebuild a few years ago drafting a lot of great talent. Now they need to reboot the team but the rebuild they did was really solid. You need to be encouraged by the recent draft success. When did the Rams or Seahawks gut their whole roster to the unneeded extent the Bills did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, SWATeam said: It's tough to make this argument since the program with the most consistency and longevity, by far, in history is run by Bill Belichick. More importantly, than the background of the head coach, is getting the right coordinators installed, especially on the other side of the ball from your own specialty. Agreed- On top top of that - next longest longevity are Harbaugh (special teams), Lewis, Carroll, and Tomlin (defense), you have Payton and McCarthy on offense. Seems to me you can get consistency and Super Bowls with eight side of the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Dude, the talent level on the Chargers vs. the Bills is NOT comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Do you want Lynn running this rebuild? Breaking in a new qb, building the defense getting the cap situation fixed? I like Lynn and I think he's a good coach but I don't think he had a plan on t he future. If we hired Reich we would be accused of "try to turn the clock back" or "living in the past" or "trying to sell tickets" etc- that was a move that would not have won with fans likewise what's he rookie qb plan>? plug in Rivers plug in Luck your off to a good start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 30 minutes ago, pop gun said: When did the Rams or Seahawks gut their whole roster to the unneeded extent the Bills did? Go look at Seattle’s roster movement when Carroll took over more changes than Buffalo by far. The Rams have changed well over 50% of the roster over the last 2 years. All new WRs, O-line, D-line, secondary. The difference with the Rams was they had no big contracts - they had guys like Gurly and Donald coming up, but they did not have the resigned players. Therefore they could begin acquiring talent without eliminating contracts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Lynn should consider getting someone to coach ST who actually knows how to do so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Chargers do not have a win over a winning team. Couple of wins over .500 teams Not saying they are not good, just need to see them beat someone of consequence before I declare them good or bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 4 hours ago, vorpma said: Having Rivers sure doesn't hurt, but I'm sure his coaching style also a factor! He also had a complete roster. They have talent littered all over that roster. McBeane had to gut this team so I think the comparison is a little unfair til next year , given our dead money situation. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Chargers do not have a win over a winning team. Couple of wins over .500 teams Not saying they are not good, just need to see them beat someone of consequence before I declare them good or bad I believe they play the Steelers next week. Huge playoff implications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 hours ago, vincec said: Yeah, kind of a rigged "chance" I'd say. It was a joke, although I do recall people judging him on that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: He also had a complete roster. They have talent littered all over that roster. McBeane had to gut this team so I think the comparison is a little unfair til next year , given our dead money situation. "Had to" or "chose to"? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: "Had to" or "chose to"? : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Virgil said: The only thing I think is relevant outside of having Rivers is the fact the Lynn is an offensive coach and McDermott is a defensive coach. As debated to exhaustion, most believe you need to have an offensive minded coach to succeed in today’s NFL I think a Defensive minded Head Coach can succeed in today's NFL but he has to really be a Head Coach! The minute McDermott took over play calling for Frazier even if it was temporary, He let everyone know he was a Defensive Coordinator playing Head Coach. If you want the promotion from DC to HC and are fortunate enough to get that opportunity, then do the job of HC. Be the administrator of your coaches. Hire the coordinators to implement your scheme and your vision and let them do the job you hired them to do. Never do their job for them. If they can't or won't do the job to your liking, fire them and get someone who will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Doing a good job but I’m happy with Sean McDermott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, RobH063 said: I think a Defensive minded Head Coach can succeed in today's NFL but he has to really be a Head Coach! The minute McDermott took over play calling for Frazier even if it was temporary, He let everyone know he was a Defensive Coordinator playing Head Coach. If you want the promotion from DC to HC and are fortunate enough to get that opportunity, then do the job of HC. Be the administrator of your coaches. Hire the coordinators to implement your scheme and your vision and let them do the job you hired them to do. Never do their job for them. If they can't or won't do the job to your liking, fire them and get someone who will. He took play calling for one half. Frazier has been calling the defense since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: 5 minutes ago, RobH063 said: I think a Defensive minded Head Coach can succeed in today's NFL but he has to really be a Head Coach! The minute McDermott took over play calling for Frazier even if it was temporary, He let everyone know he was a Defensive Coordinator playing Head Coach. If you want the promotion from DC to HC and are fortunate enough to get that opportunity, then do the job of HC. Be the administrator of your coaches. Hire the coordinators to implement your scheme and your vision and let them do the job you hired them to do. Never do their job for them. If they can't or won't do the job to your liking, fire them and get someone who will. He took play calling for one half. Frazier has been calling the defense since. Yes I know. That's why I said he did it temporarily. Regardless, he did it right? So he showed he is a Defensive Coordinator playing Head Coach. Edited November 18, 2018 by RobH063 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Just now, RobH063 said: Yes I know. That's why I said he did it temporarily I think your conlusion based on one half of football is flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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