If McDermott doesn't start Barkley against Jacksonville he should be Fired

[fansince88]

Is there any reason That McD should keep his job?

[VW82]

Yeah I'm about as pessimistic as it gets around here with Allen and even I think we need to give the kid another look. We're realistically out of the playoff race. The pressure to win is finally off. Now we can take the shackles off Josh and see what he can do. Barkley should stick around as the back up. Whatever wisdom Anderson was supposedly going to impart, he's done that. This is Allen's time to prove that he's got what it takes to eventually be the franchise guy, and we don't need to go get a real QB in the off season to compete in training camp (though I think we should do this regardless). We're not going to find out anything with Allen sitting on the bench.  

Edited November 12, 2018 by VW82

[B Fan in LA]

There is a good argument to start Barkley one more game to see if he's for real, or not.

But I think we need to plug Allen back in again when he's ready and let him get some experience.

 

It's very likely Allen ends up in concussion protocol before the end of the season and we can watch Barkley again.

 

[Talley56]

While I wouldn’t say we definitely a QB I do agree Barkley should start next game.  If nothing else he at least earned that right today.

[BananaB]

Lol. This was the first team we played that probably won’t be in the the playoff hunt come December. 

[CincyBillsFan]

13 minutes ago, B Fan in LA said:

There is a good argument to start Barkley one more game to see if he's for real, or not.

But I think we need to plug Allen back in again when he's ready and let him get some experience.

 

It's very likely Allen ends up in concussion protocol before the end of the season and we can watch Barkley again.

 

 

Even if Barkley plays well in a couple more games does that really tell us that he's a starting caliber QB?  He's had 6 years and a bunch of different opportunities to demonstrate that he's more then a back-up QB. 

 

Bottom line is we already know that he's not a starting QB in a way that we don't know about Allen.  The goal with Allen going forward is twofold:  1) Develop him as a starting QB that can be the guy for us over the next 10 years AND 2) determine whether he is the guy ASAP so we can cut our ties and move forward if he's not.  We can't do either of these things if he's sitting on the bench. 

 

When the Bills named Allen the starter in week 2 and he kept that job until he went down with an injury, they lost any chance to sit him down and have him "learn" now.  It's like losing your virginity - there's no going back. 

Edited November 12, 2018 by CincyBillsFan

[wiskibreth]

Can we please stop with the "fire someone" threads.  They're so unsophisticated.

[MrEpsYtown]

The Jets should fire Todd Bowles and hire that hot blonde chick who was walking behind him all game. 

[Big Blitz]

5 hours ago, I am the egg man said:

By far, the best performance by a Bills QB this season. Barkley is showing how bad the other 3 have played. 

 

 

Did you miss the Vikings game?

 

I'll factor in degree of difficulty.

[Tcali]

3 hours ago, billsfan11 said:

Half descent QB? He was on his couch just 2 weeks ago. He played a good game. But Let’s not get ahead of ourselves here lol. 

 

Whats the the purpose of winning a few games at this point? To try and get to 5-11? No purpose in that at all.

 

Its about 2019. Let Allen learn by playing him.

 

Barkley vs Allen shouldn’t even be an argument. 

 

Allen should start and he most likely will be after the bye 

the fact he was on his couch makes it even more impressive..

[gobills1212]

5 hours ago, Kevin1778 said:

We have a quarterback folks. Sure the Jets are the worst team in the NFL right now but Barkley throws the ball down the field and is light years ahead of Allen. 

 

Barkley

Allen

Thomas (Emergency)

 

No need for Anderson or Peterman.

Ugh, dont be that guy. 

Hopefully you are joking. 

If not, go be a Jets fan.

You'll fit right in

 

[BillsFan130]

7 minutes ago, Tcali said:

the fact he was on his couch makes it even more impressive..

Fair. But I’m just saying there was a reason he was on the couch. He’s a career backup/3rd stringer

[Real McClappy]

3 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Sure but he's only started a total of 6 games in his career, all in 2016. Since this year is meaningless what's the harm in giving him another game and seeing if he is for real? Worst case scenario he sucks and we start Allen the following week. I like Allen but no one is anointing him as the guy yet. We might as well see what we have in Barkley while we can IMO.

I'm honestly ok with whatever decision McD makes in a couple weeks. 

[CaptnCoke11]

Put Anderson on IR and let him help with the QB room.  Cut Peterman 

[Scott7975]

Starting your weekly "I need attention" posts already?  Are you going to come up with a new "if then fired" thread every week?

[Saint Doug]

58 minutes ago, B Fan in LA said:

There is a good argument to start Barkley one more game to see if he's for real, or not.

But I think we need to plug Allen back in again when he's ready and let him get some experience.

 

It's very likely Allen ends up in concussion protocol before the end of the season and we can watch Barkley again.

 

 

Agreed. At this point, I think it’s more important in seeing what Barkley has over what Allen has. No one doubts Allen is the QB of the future. What we don’t know if who the backup QB will be. We’ve all seen firsthand how important this position is this season. It’s been a complete ***** show and has basically ruined our season. We don’t need another repeat next season. 

[purple haze]

??

[Saint Doug]

4 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Put Anderson on IR and let him help with the QB room.  Cut Peterman 

 

Maybe Anderson just wants to go home to his family? He’s basically living at the Stadium and for what? I get thousands of dollars, but I’m sure he’s well taken care of at this point and want to walk away from this nightmare. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

11 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

The Jets should fire Todd Bowles and hire that hot blonde chick who was walking behind him all game. 

I saw her too.  

[Lfod]

I stick with the QB that had the offense in motion beyond a dead stop. I would want to keep any rythm going. Allen is one bad game away from people crying to put the other guy back in anyway. 

 

Just my opinion about it. I didn't think any QB could make the offense not suck and was kinda shocked it moved. I wouldn't get over excited about just one game but enough happened that I would not hastily change it back.

 

 

Edited November 12, 2018 by Lfod

[nucci]

17 hours ago, Kevin1778 said:

We have a quarterback folks. Sure the Jets are the worst team in the NFL right now but Barkley throws the ball down the field and is light years ahead of Allen. 

 

Barkley

Allen

Thomas (Emergency)

 

No need for Anderson or Peterman.

You need to stop being so annoying....you're all  over the place and just like starting crap like this

[zow2]

17 hours ago, Kevin1778 said:

We have a quarterback folks. Sure the Jets are the worst team in the NFL right now but Barkley throws the ball down the field and is light years ahead of Allen. 

 

Barkley

Allen

Thomas (Emergency)

 

No need for Anderson or Peterman.

 

I posted this in another thread, probably should have posted it here.  But yeah i pretty much agree, at least for the Jax game.

 

Regarding Barkley, it's not being talked about how (i think) he purposely under-threw some deep balls.  It gave the WR's a perfect chance to track the ball, stop, and outleap the defender.  Brady does this alot and I hope Allen can learn something from that.   I'd keep Barkley as the starter at least for the Jacksonville game.  The last two home games were stinkers.  Give the O a chance to keep it going.  It's inevitable that Barkley will falter and have a bad game or half.  At that point transition over to Josh Allen for the remainder of the season.

[BigBuff423]

I don't think it's as drastic as McD needs to be fired. It's not an easy call due to Josh Allen needing to play to get better. In short, Barkley did what we hoped Derek Anderson could have done a few weeks ago: be good enough to help the Defense. But, once Allen started any game, this became the season to establish next season. Allen's development is the key to this franchise and him playing only facilitates that development and therefore, sets the course for the franchise for the next three years without question and either for better or worse, arguably the next 10 years. In short: if Allen is 100% healthy, and ONLY if he is 100% healthy, Josh Allen should start against Jax and every game thereafter. JMO.

[boater]

After the biggest win of the season, I still had this feeling there would be a FIRED post on TSW.

 

I was not let down.

[Stank_Nasty]

SMH. This is all just so “Kevin”... (sigh) 

[Solomon Grundy]

12 hours ago, billsfan11 said:

Fair. But I’m just saying there was a reason he was on the couch. He’s a career backup/3rd stringer

He was also injured

[26CornerBlitz]

The OP wanted the Bills to start Peterman yesterday claiming Barkley wouldn't last one half due to the knee injury suffered in preseason.  Now after one good game by Barkley he wants the coach fired if he doesn't start him over the Allen.   Such illogic is rather uncommon even here on TSW.

[Solomon Grundy]

17 hours ago, Mat68 said:

Close, but no.  As soon as Allen is 100% he starts and Peterman is cut.  Barkley looks like a capable backup.  Last 6 games you need to develop Allen.  

What happens IF Allen comes back and struggles?

[BillsFan130]

16 minutes ago, the skycap said:

He was also injured

Not sure what that has to do with anything. He is a career backup. He was the backup before he got hurt in Cinci

[Just Joshin']

15 minutes ago, the skycap said:

What happens IF Allen comes back and struggles?

He learns and gains experience ala Goff and Trubisky.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 hour ago, nucci said:

You need to stop being so annoying....you're all  over the place and just like starting crap like this

 

....LMAO.......could be insurmountable request..........

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Except for one thing:

 

1. The Bills traded Glenn, #12, #53 and #56 to get Josh Allen. 

 

 

[Gugny]

Let us pray .....

 

Thank you, Lord, for the Bills' GM not being Kevin1778.

 

Can I get an amen?

[mob16151]

I'd let Allen be "injured" one more game. Start Barkley ,cut Peterman and have Barkley and Anderson vs Jacksonville. If Barkley plays well again let him ride out the year. if not back to Allen.

[uticaclub]

If you are trying to tell vets like Zo, Kyle & Shady that they are trying to win today you start Barkley.

[aceman_16]

19 hours ago, Kevin1778 said:

We have a quarterback folks. Sure the Jets are the worst team in the NFL right now but Barkley throws the ball down the field and is light years ahead of Allen. 

 

Barkley

Allen

Thomas (Emergency)

 

No need for Anderson or Peterman.

Wow....  just wow.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

24 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Let us pray .....

 

Thank you, Lord, for the Bills' GM not being Kevin1778.

 

Can I get an amen?

AMEN 

[Rebel101]

18 hours ago, LABillzFan said:

We should get rid of the Pegulas while we're at it.

 

Gut it all. Dump everyone. Start over! Damn straight!!!  

I’ll bring the pitchforks lol 

[Dopey]

18 hours ago, billsfan11 said:

What’s the purpose of starting Barkley over Allen?

 

They are 3 and 7.

 

Let Allen start the remaining 6 games and get him more experience going into next year

In case you missed it, he explained the purpose he sees in starting Barkley over Allen. Just read and you might understand where he's coming from. I am pasting what he explained below. Again, just read a little.

 

Barkley is better than Allen at this point.Let allen watch a QB who knows at least the basics of the game----How to throw a short pass with proper timing...how to throw without getting your receivers killed...how to move his feet and not look like a wooden indian...and doesnt lock in forever on the primary.Allen will have his time. Up til today all Allen got to see was crap. Let him watch a real QB for a while.

[bdutton]