Hebert19 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Seriously. This roster is ****. We are in full rebuild mode. Last year too essentially. Yet this team wins games. Give this guy some actual talent and we will be a very good team. Yes. He has some issues. And yes he shouldn't have anything to do with talent selection but he can coach. He adjusts. Doesn't yet mid game very well. But game to game he fixes stuff. Just as he did last year. This team should rival the 0 and 16 browns last year yet here we are 2-3 with a green rookie QB a ****ty oline and no wrs. He deserves some credit. 14 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Hebert19 said: Seriously. This roster is ****. We are in full rebuild mode. Last year too essentially. Yet this team wins games. Give this guy some actual talent and we will be a very good team. Yes. He has some issues. And yes he shouldn't have anything to do with talent selection but he can coach. He adjusts. Doesn't yet mid game very well. But game to game he fixes stuff. Just as he did last year. This team should rival the 0 and 16 browns last year yet here we are 2-3 with a green rookie QB a ****ty oline and no wrs. He deserves some credit. Not to argue your overall point but the talent on this team is better than many give it credit for- we are below nfl average talent overall but not 2008 lion bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Well..... I like to see improvement from football year quarter to quarter. I would say the defense has a good projectory since the 2nd half of the first game. Let's wait and see a bit.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Review Dick Jauron’s record and you will be amazed he got 7 wins too. SM has a ton of power and bares a huge part of the crappy roster, especially on offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 He's a good leader, but his game-day coaching is suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 Can you compare Djs teams to this is talent???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Some here always thought he was a good coach. I still can't believe how easily some people forget that he took the Bills to the playoffs last year, with Tyrod Taylor at QB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 11-10 regular season..I guess that's good.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffbills716 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 this guy needs weapons asap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: 11-10 regular season..I guess that's good.. For the talent we have had its fantastic. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I agree that McD can coach. The overall talent on this team is poor, and he has coached the team to two wins against good teams so far this season. I understand there also have been blowout losses, but I think it is a mini-miracle that this team is 2-3 at this point. I do have concerns about the coaching on the offense side of things, but I think McD is good at keeping the players believing that they can compete, even after bad losses. McD needs a stellar OC. I do not believe that Daboll is that guy, and if he is not, then McD needs to find one as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Just now, Hebert19 said: For the talent we have had its fantastic. He is basically running the team. Again, Look at the Jauron rosters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I've been saying this- he's going to be a Bill for a long time. He's a natural . 8 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: For the talent we have had its fantastic. With a Rookie and backup QB and totally renovated defense, it's a pretty big accomplishment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Mcd certainly hasn’t lost the locker room! He got the team to go out and control the LOS on both sides of the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 The fans play a big part of wins like we had today.They were off the chart loud when the defense was out there...the players thrive off that fan fever vibe.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 39 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Review Dick Jauron’s record and you will be amazed he got 7 wins too. SM has a ton of power and bares a huge part of the crappy roster, especially on offense. Jauron wishes he could have drafted as well as McD and Beane have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 The people freaking out last week and calling for firings all the time are just short sighted. This is a developmental season plain and simple. Toss these young guys out there and let them play and see what you got at the end of the year. The “holes” we see now may not be holes next year. There’s something to be said about coaching and developing your young talent. We all know the first round picks are expected to be elite one day, but we forget about developing mccloud and other draft picks, young free agents brought over. If these guys continue to get better and better the “hole” we complain about now isn’t so important next year. Gotta get through the growing pains this year, they have a plan and no matter how much we question it they are sticking to it. They wanted a fresh salary cap to work with, and a young core of talent to build with. After this season they have all that. What they do with it is the true test if they stay in buffalo and have success long term. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Jauron wishes he could have drafted as well as McD and Beane have This point doesn’t make sense. Are you saying McBeane have more talent this Jauron got more out of his less talent? and SM is a dime a dozen nfl head coach and that’s perfectly fine. I think he could have a good career. He just has way too much power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I agree. I think he’s the best coach we’ve had around here in 2 decades, and it’s not close. I’m more excited about the direction of the team than I can ever remember in my life as a Bills fan. However, someone needs to take the challenge flags away from him. Please, for the love of God do not let the man challenge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I agree. Defense sucked he took over the play calling at halftime of week 2. Voila Fraizer got the message. Called out Dabol this week about Shady;s lack of touches and he had a good day. I don't get the hate here but not surprised 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Review Dick Jauron’s record and you will be amazed he got 7 wins too. SM has a ton of power and bares a huge part of the crappy roster, especially on offense. Really not a fair take imo. This is not a finished roster and it's pretty obvious. 2 off-seasons have clearly resulted in a decrease of talent, but you can't judge a house remodel when it's down to the studs. Let the guy put up some walls and fixtures and then judge the roster. So even though yes he technically "bares a huge part" of it, it's just step 1 in a multi-step process that's not a secret. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) Even while we're remaking this team, he made the playoffs and is 1 game out of 1st in the east after 5 games. I don't know who wouldn't take that. It's early in the season and we're probably still not going anywhere this year, but I thought that last year. He's got my vote so far. It would be fair to see us play next year with more weapons on offense and then judge. Edited October 8, 2018 by Dopey Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) I’ve been pleasantly surprised with his game decisions, actually. After the Colts game punting fiasco last year, I was afraid we had another Marvin Lewis or Mike McCarthy. but McD shows growth...he’s gone for it on 4th down a few times this year when the game wasn’t yet on the line...that’s promising. The D looks pretty good. He he really has little to do with the offense... so, yeah...I think he’s doing well. Lol look what Garrett just did! Punted on 4th and 1 from Houston’s 41 in OT. Cowboys never saw the ball again. im glad we have McD and not someone like Garrett. O’Brien isn’t much better. That whole game was a tutorial on bad football decisions. Edited October 8, 2018 by Domdab99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Hebert19 said: Can you compare Djs teams to this is talent???? I love it when posters reflect positivity on old, horrible coaches and say they were good i.e. Jauron, Chan, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasaluki Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 One of McDs biggest strengths is his ability to motivate players. So long as he keeps that ability the team will win in time. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 He's a phenomenal coach that's made a few mistakes. My issue is when we keep McBeane chained together as one entity when maybe we could see what McDermott can do without a "**** roster".. who gave him that roster ? 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Review Dick Jauron’s record and you will be amazed he got 7 wins too. SM has a ton of power and bares a huge part of the crappy roster, especially on offense. Like.. does he have all that power on offense? I'm totally fine if he's all controlling on defense.. so long as we have a GM and OC tooling a good offense for McD. McD didn't make the decision to make ZERO improvement to offensive personnell as it's been gutted over 2 years... At least I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Hebert19 said: Seriously. This roster is ****. We are in full rebuild mode. Last year too essentially. Yet this team wins games. Give this guy some actual talent and we will be a very good team. Yes. He has some issues. And yes he shouldn't have anything to do with talent selection but he can coach. He adjusts. Doesn't yet mid game very well. But game to game he fixes stuff. Just as he did last year. This team should rival the 0 and 16 browns last year yet here we are 2-3 with a green rookie QB a ****ty oline and no wrs. He deserves some credit. Some of us with a clear mind have been saying this all along , they have purged all of Whaley/Ryan's rejects, started implementing their own talent through the draft and FA, now will have a plethora of picks to go along with 80+M cap space, we should really know who this team is by next season and what they can really be imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Somebody just tell him to quit challenge the ball spots unless it is seriously bad. Any time he has challenged a spot I have never even thought there was a chance it would be overturned. Other wise I'm pretty sold on coach he is solid imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 This team has quality defensive talent, I don't know why people ignore that aspect when talking about the talent level on this team. Even entering the season the team had a quality secondary, a young LB core with potential, and a decent D-line which added Star and Murphy to it. Yes it is true that the offensive talent is pretty **** (maybe the worst in the league certainly a bottom 10 or 5 unit) but this team is not the Browns from the past two seasons or the 2008 Lions. That being said McD in my opinion is a good coach, he knows the value of everyone buying into the goal of the team and he knows how to motivate players. McD also knows how to keep a team together even after several blowouts. After the 5-2 start when the season could have easily started to get away from the team after the Jets loss and several other losses the team rebounded and won enough games to secure a winning record and with some luck make the playoffs. Even this season after a completely awful loss in Baltimore and a bad loss to the Chargers at home the season could have easily slipped. At 2-3 the Bills are way better record wise than I thought they would be (I thought 0-5 or 1-4 at best.) I think coaching wise the team is in good hands. Yes I do have my concerns about offensive play calling and offense in general. But I do think that the defense is in very good hands and that McD does know how to manage the team and its culture very well. I think an NFL coaches job heavily involves how they manager the locker room and team psyche. McD has that component down in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) The question with McD is does he have the right philosophy to build a winner in today's NFL? He seems to be the type of coach who wants to win ugly low scoring games with defense. Can that work in today's NFL that is more designed for dynamic and innovative offense's? Edited October 8, 2018 by Klaista2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Jpsredemption said: 11-10 regular season..I guess that's good.. First years for new head coaches are almost always bad. McDermott had a great first year. First years with rookie QB's are usually bad. That's what this year is, and we'll see how it goes. Next year is the big test, I think. The culture and schemes should be established. Allen should be better in year two. A lot more talent should be brought in front FA and the draft. We really should be heading for the playoffs. If not, that's when I start to question. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrly Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I don’t like Clappy. I think he’s good at building confidence amongst the players but conservative and prone to dumb decisions. That’s just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 He has won me over...I am still not 100% sold on some of the personel moves that have been made, but I am not sure how much of that his him, and how much of it is Beane. I think he has a fair amount of say. But I trust the guy as a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I have always thought he is a good coach. The personnel element... well he and Beane still have it to prove. As Kirby always says... anyone can look good executing the tear down. It is the build up that is the hard part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 7 hours ago, Hebert19 said: Seriously. This roster is ****. We are in full rebuild mode. Last year too essentially. Yet this team wins games. Give this guy some actual talent and we will be a very good team. Yes. He has some issues. And yes he shouldn't have anything to do with talent selection but he can coach. He adjusts. Doesn't yet mid game very well. But game to game he fixes stuff. Just as he did last year. This team should rival the 0 and 16 browns last year yet here we are 2-3 with a green rookie QB a ****ty oline and no wrs. He deserves some credit. I agree 100%. The defense has a great deal of talent, the offense, not so much. Sean has done more with less than any coach we have had since the millennium. Why is the fact that so many on this site discount that we are a playoff teams from last year. Sean is a solid coach and will only get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 4 hours ago, ILBillsfan said: Somebody just tell him to quit challenge the ball spots unless it is seriously bad. Any time he has challenged a spot I have never even thought there was a chance it would be overturned. Other wise I'm pretty sold on coach he is solid imo Yesterday the Bills got hosed. That spot was a good 1/2 yard behind the marker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 21 minutes ago, ganesh said: Yesterday the Bills got hosed. That spot was a good 1/2 yard behind the marker. You never win those. He has to know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Read Breer's article today on si.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: He's a good leader, but his game-day coaching is suspect. ya think? going for it on 4th down in a lollygagging way...then call a time out? i thought for sure they would have took the chip shot fg, but take a time out and then come back and go for it? i thought there was some big time brain farts including the use of time outs. ....and challenging a spot? there was only one time out left if i remember correctly. is it all on mcd? or is there too many spoons in the stew? idk but if we'd have lost that game, this staff would be getting roasted hard. Edited October 8, 2018 by billsredneck1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 8 hours ago, CLTbills said: I agree. I think he’s the best coach we’ve had around here in 2 decades, and it’s not close. I’m more excited about the direction of the team than I can ever remember in my life as a Bills fan. However, someone needs to take the challenge flags away from him. Please, for the love of God do not let the man challenge. I don't like the guy, and am glad he's gone, but Marrone is proving to be a good coach and shoots a large hole in your "best in 2 decades". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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