KGun12TD Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, Augie said: I’m actually a little afraid to try Fantasy Football. It can become quite the obsession! I don’t want to know as much about football as my son does. It’s funny, growing up in WNY I never really followed college football. After 30+ years living in the southeast it’s really grown on me, and if it’s NOT the Bills, I watch less NFL than I used to. YES! I moved down to Florida and I've been watching more football than I did in NYC. I even go to the Bills Backers of Brandon in Central Florida. Also, I watch so much College Football. My wife is not a happy camper from August to February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Tells me they were cutting him I concur....this way didn't have to worry about waivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Pbomb said: When you change coaches and gms every 2 to 3 years the rosters turnover increases alot. To say we are a farm team is ridiculous, we keep plenty of good players. All teams lose and dont resign some of their draft picks Dont use common sense trying to explain things to Tier....your just gonna confuse him please Edited August 6, 2018 by John from Riverside 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Since we will be coming off our super bowl win in 2020, the 7th round pick will be Mr. irrelevant. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 22 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: I am honestly just a bit surprised that Buffalo traded for Coleman, with some of his issues I’ve heard about (specifically not working hard enough, and things of that nature). Hes is not the prototypical McBeane player by any means. But it is very nice to see. Ive seen numerous people complaining/worrying that McBeane would never take a chance on any talented but flawed type players. This is shows that they will. Last year was about establishing the culture. Now it seems that they feel they have a strong enough locker room to take chances on a player like this (not that Coleman is some huge off field risk or anything) and try to turn him around. I agree... it will be interesting to see how he fits. Having the team culture in place, he could come in and embrace the culture and thrive which would be a huge win. Or if he comes in and doesn't fit, then we haven't lost much. I did some looking back at some old stories on his past, looks like he had a rough upbringing, but has some elements that could see him embracing the team culture here. https://www.ohio.com/akron/writers/browns-rookie-wide-receiver-corey-coleman-rose-from-violent-streets-forgave-imprisoned-father-on-inspirational-journey-to-nfl He has a strong connection with NFL vet Ray Crockett who seems to be a good character influence IMO. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I have watched quite a bit of his highlights. Two things stand out. 1) is his speed. Fast feet, can run decent routes. 2) is, while he makes a good number of highpoint, contested catches, when he's got his man beat hands down and the ball is in the air, he's not a comeback to the ball type of guy. 70% of the highlights I saw showed him belly catching the ball, instead of coming back to snatch and run. With his speed, he needs to get the ball asap and be gone, without waiting, and gut catching it. All in all, great value for a 7th round pick in 2 years! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 13 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: This PROBABLY did not really enter the equation because it was abundantly clear that we needed a talent and a speed upgrade at WR. But it's not out of the question that Beane and McD may be leaning to starting Allen sooner than later and they figured we better get this speed guy, whomever he is, in here quicker than later. I have always been on the start Allen early if he shows decent bandwagon, so this somewhat fits my narrative. And it's more because AJ and NP stink and our run game will be **** down more than Allen is great. Yeah I agree........they shouldn't have even entertained going into this season without a WR who can get open over the top of an NFL defense. That is most likely going to be the throw that makes all else possible for Allen. The threat of the deep ball creates separation possibilities on all other routes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 2 hours ago, eball said: Zero risk and minimal cost. Potentially high reward. End of story. Can't believe this thread is 18 pages. It's actually one page eighteen times. And now 22. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 22 minutes ago, Logic said: For reference, we just drafted Austin Proehl in the 7th round. That's the kind of "talent" you usually get at that point in the draft. So to trade a CONDITIONAL, FUTURE 7th round pick for the type of talent and speed Coleman has is awesome. Over the first 16 games of his career, he has over 50 receptions for over 600 yards and 5 TDs. If he does nothing else but provide a deep threat and help keep the defense honest, he's more than worth what the Bills paid. If he does literally nothing and gets cut, the Bills have lost only a 7th round pick at worst. And even then, the trade was a CONDITIONAL 7th round pick, so if Coleman doesn't make the team, the Bills might not lose anything. It's a scratchoff lottery ticket for basically free. Love it. The Bills did take on his contract $'s which are guaranteed. That being said it still is a good move by Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Commonsense said: I agree. For the average Joe’s out there going for a jog or tossing around the DUKE being hydrated and doing some stretching is usually enough. We have seen guys like Larry Fitz pull his hammy, elite athletes doing crazy things with their bodies isn’t foolproof. Guys that have motivation problems do seem to suffer these types of problems at a higher rate though. Coleman may have been that guy, a change of scenery could serve him well. 3 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: What bugs me about that Common, and I know I am very naive about sports injuries, but hamstring injuries are ones that I just feel should never really happen. Stretch to be as limber as a rubber band and hydrate like crazy. As naive as I am I DO KNOW I am over simplifying it, but still. Happens to the best: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 2 hours ago, nucci said: I am...I want the playoffs again....all close games could go either way...that's why you need good luck once in awhile...Bills finally got some last year Fair enough. I will clarify that if we play well and luck doesn't go our way, but Allen and the young core look good, then I won't be too upset. I'd prefer winning obviously, but if it looks like we will be winning a lot in the future I won't be too sad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: The last player we got from the Browns worked out pretty well You are absolutely correct he sure did !! Same with could be said about another player we got from the Colts/Jerry Hughs guess what I’m trying to say is that sometimes a new start/team/system is just what a player needs to revive his career , hopefully Colman will follow in the same footsteps as the other two !!! Go BILLS!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I didn’t think they would give up much for him for the reasons you mention but given the low cost, and strong locker room, it’s a reclamation project they can take on. Pats gave been making trades like this for a decade + Agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 15 hours ago, H2o said: My question is does this move Zay to the slot or is Coleman going to play the slot WR position? Me personally, I think having Corey on the outside across from Benjamin benefits he and Zay the most. We shall see. Kerley in the slot- Zay may be 4 or 5 spot or off the roster- I wouldnt be surprised if the latter happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 8 hours ago, Pbomb said: When you change coaches and gms every 2 to 3 years the rosters turnover increases alot. To say we are a farm team is ridiculous, we keep plenty of good players. All teams lose and dont resign some of their draft picks Let's also dig deeper, to the fact that the coaching changes affect the roster twofold. -most coaches want their own "clay" to work with, not the half finished product of the previous coach, so they bring in their guys that they scouted and want -every coach we have had also changed the scheme quite a bit. Look at the defensive scheme. I can't tell you how many times we've gone from 4-3 to 3-4 and back again two years later, just to do the same flip again another year later. Many linebackers and dline are specialized for one type of defensive scheme, so they wind up jettisoned with the scheme change, even if they were a good player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Cornette's Commentary said: I'm still baffled as to what Green Bay saw in Kizer to want to trade for him. They watched Brett Hundley last year? Kizer is a talented dude. Maybe McCarthy can develop him a bit behind Rodgers. He has won games with Matt Flynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: They watched Brett Hundley last year? Kizer is a talented dude. Maybe McCarthy can develop him a bit behind Rodgers. He has won games with Matt Flynn I watched pretty much every throw of his at Notre Dame and he is talented but I think too inconsistent to ever really be a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) 56 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: I am honestly just a bit surprised that Buffalo traded for Coleman, with some of his issues I’ve heard about (specifically not working hard enough, and things of that nature). Hes is not the prototypical McBeane player by any means. But it is very nice to see. Ive seen numerous people complaining/worrying that McBeane would never take a chance on any talented but flawed type players. This is shows that they will. Last year was about establishing the culture. Now it seems that they feel they have a strong enough locker room to take chances on a player like this (not that Coleman is some huge off field risk or anything) and try to turn him around. Important to remember that Beane scouted him and met with him when he was coming out of college. Beane must know that the guy has character he can work with. If he thought Coleman was a problem two years ago, he wouldn't have taken him now. Edited August 6, 2018 by Shaw66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 So to summarize.. we got a speedster that is made of glass. Sounds like Maqueas Goodwin 2.0. did much better at the 9ers than in Buffalo tho. Maybe the change in scenery will help Corey as it did Goodwin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 When he was on the field for Cleveland he was about as productive as Sammy was for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: When he was on the field for Cleveland he was about as productive as Sammy was for the Bills. Unless this is sarcasm, it's a laughably horrendous assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 When I look at the film one thing glaringly stands out to me..... He was not getting anywhere close to what you would call a "accurate pass" the majority of the time He looks like he has to slow down EVERY TIME in order to make a play on a ball due to bad QB play......the most consistant QB he played with he had his best numbers with (and they were decent numbers with that qb) Colemen has a place on this team.....he can run coverage deep.....which allows guys like KB and Kerley to catch passes UNDER the coverage...... Like it....like it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 5 hours ago, SoTier said: Because he can't stay healthy and can't catch the ball, which tend to be fatal flaws for WRs. We got him for a SEVENTH ROUND DRAFT PICK IN 2020!!! 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Two paragraphs from a story by AP Sports Writer Tom Withers. But beyond Coleman's problems on the field, he had issues outside the lines that hurt his standing with Coach Hue Jackson and new General Manager John Dorsey. Coleman was named in a police report regarding an alleged felonious assault last year. He was also sent home from the Browns trip to Houston for missing curfew while he was injured. We are changing the culture. With Zay Jones and Coleman on the field as WRs (insert your own joke here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Bill_with_it said: Jarvis Landry is saying hello right now, wouldn't Landry appears to be the #1. https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/depth-chart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Coach McDermott and GM Beane are running their own version of 'Boys Town'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 The bills knew this, he will be fine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndZoneCrew Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Good n you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, Foreigner said: Two paragraphs from a story by AP Sports Writer Tom Withers. But beyond Coleman's problems on the field, he had issues outside the lines that hurt his standing with Coach Hue Jackson and new General Manager John Dorsey. Coleman was named in a police report regarding an alleged felonious assault last year. He was also sent home from the Browns trip to Houston for missing curfew while he was injured. We are changing the culture. With Zay Jones and Coleman on the field as WRs (insert your own joke here) I Trust The Process. So should you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 We can handle a few guys like this. Zay had his bizzare issue during the off-season. And missing curfew while injured (i.e. not playing) is not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things. Not a "perfect" character background, but for a 2020 7th rounder, yeah, I'll take the risk at BoysTown Buffalo! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, Foreigner said: Two paragraphs from a story by AP Sports Writer Tom Withers. But beyond Coleman's problems on the field, he had issues outside the lines that hurt his standing with Coach Hue Jackson and new General Manager John Dorsey. Coleman was named in a police report regarding an alleged felonious assault last year. He was also sent home from the Browns trip to Houston for missing curfew while he was injured. We are changing the culture. With Zay Jones and Coleman on the field as WRs (insert your own joke here) It’s nice coach speak to say you are building a “high character team”. Let’s be real, it’s impossible to field 53 guys who are truly high character. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Foreigner said: Two paragraphs from a story by AP Sports Writer Tom Withers. But beyond Coleman's problems on the field, he had issues outside the lines that hurt his standing with Coach Hue Jackson and new General Manager John Dorsey. Coleman was named in a police report regarding an alleged felonious assault last year. He was also sent home from the Browns trip to Houston for missing curfew while he was injured. We are changing the culture. With Zay Jones and Coleman on the field as WRs (insert your own joke here) So, what have you been doing with your time off, Bucky? Have you gotten an Eric Decker Pats jersey yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Jones was basically high on something. He made a mistake. The guy is actually very well spoken. I think he will turn it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) Did some digging after I saw a poster mention that CC wasn’t running routes well in practice. (Sorry, can’t find the post.). Word is that he is not only terrible at his routes he’s also not understanding the other aspects of the WR position. He couldn’t be counted on to be where he was supposed to be on the field and it wasn’t getting better so they dumped him. Still, for the Bills it’s so low risk that even in light of this information I have no problem with the trade. Edited to add: There was no mention of any off the field problems with him. Edited August 6, 2018 by BarleyNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, Foreigner said: Two paragraphs from a story by AP Sports Writer Tom Withers. But beyond Coleman's problems on the field, he had issues outside the lines that hurt his standing with Coach Hue Jackson and new General Manager John Dorsey. Coleman was named in a police report regarding an alleged felonious assault last year. He was also sent home from the Browns trip to Houston for missing curfew while he was injured. We are changing the culture. With Zay Jones and Coleman on the field as WRs (insert your own joke here) Do you create annoying threads like this because you were constantly picked last in kickball and first out in dodgeball? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I know the truth hurts, but some people just can't handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Foreigner said: I know the truth hurts, but some people just can't handle it. What truth? That you're a miserable person who only starts negative threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 They got him for a bag of peanuts, and I'm sure he knows it's one strike and yer out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commish Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Chris Brown on WGR says the issue with Coleman isn't his physical skills, it is [and hasa been] his ability to learn a playbook and read defenses - and he's starting late as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 21 minutes ago, Foreigner said: Two paragraphs from a story by AP Sports Writer Tom Withers. But beyond Coleman's problems on the field, he had issues outside the lines that hurt his standing with Coach Hue Jackson and new General Manager John Dorsey. Coleman was named in a police report regarding an alleged felonious assault last year. He was also sent home from the Browns trip to Houston for missing curfew while he was injured. We are changing the culture. With Zay Jones and Coleman on the field as WRs (insert your own joke here) It was already discussed and investigated per the media’s report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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