OldTimer1960 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 15 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Quinn McCoy Moore (best year) Cassel Well, certainly can’t judge him much off that. All of those guys would make you want TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 How could this guy not win a Super Bowl with the great QB's he's had ? Brady Quinn Colt McCoy Chad Henne Matt Cassell Hall of famers one and all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: Haven't you heard? The Bills are a week into a new 17 year playoff drought... I think I seen a reference to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) I like the move. He has a history of winning. Five Super Bowls, and a national championship his first year. He has coached under the greatest HC in pro and college (Belichick and Saban) so he understands detail, preparation, winning, and never letting the foot off the pedal. HIs past Pro OC experience does give pause, especially since the passing game on the teams he OC were horrible. But he also had horrible teams (CLE, KC) who had horrible QBs that are all either backups or out of the league. He was still able to rank 5th in rushing for a 2-14 KC team with Matt Cassel at QB. That's how you cut your teeth as a first time coordinator, getting your butt kicked on a crappy team with crappy talent) I'm sure he has learned from that experience as well since it's been five years ago. Since that time he's won a few more rings with NE and was tabbed by the greatest college coach to run his offense. This guy was next in line for the Patriots OC job. Bills snuck in and stole him before McDaniels could make his decision. He was also Nick Saban's selection to replace Lane Kiffin. My thoughts are if this guy is good enough to be considered OC by storied franchises such as Belichick/Patriots and Saban/Alabama) than I believe the Bills made the right move here. I would rather do this then hire a retread like McCoy or Chud, both of whom really hadn't done much to write home about over the last five years. I say go outside the box and strive for greatness. That's what champions do. Go Bills! Edited January 14, 2018 by dezertbill 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: I know pretty much everything about football... 2 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Basic human thinking? And he’s had 4 years of OC experience. Last being 6 years ago. During that time he’s failed miserably with the following teams and QB’s... Cleveland - Brady Quinn, Derek Anderson and Jake Delhomme Miami - Matt Moore, Chad Henne, JP Losman KC - Matt Cassel, Brady Quinn again. My point is that you don’t know anything. clear? Crystal clear. You're a genius and I'm an idiot. Got it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: How could this guy not win a Super Bowl with the great QB's he's had ? Brady Quinn Colt McCoy Chad Henne Matt Cassell Hall of famers one and all. John DeFilippo, the hot name this year managed 30th ranked offense in points in Cleveland as OC. Edited January 14, 2018 by TheTruthHurts 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 NFL GamePass goes back to 2012, the last time Daboll was an NFL OC. I guess I’ll be using my spare time watching Chiefs games to see how he likes run his offense and call plays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, fridge said: Crystal clear. You're a genius and I'm an idiot. Got it. Welcome to earth. Now you’re aware of who I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricko1112 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Young. Hungry. Innovative. Be interesting to see what he brings. There were rumors that he might have been Josh McDaniels' replacement next year. Good hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, Bangarang said: NFL GamePass goes back to 2012, the last time Daboll was an NFL OC. I guess I’ll be using my spare time watching Chiefs games to see how he likes run his offense and call plays. That season they averaged 13.18 points/game. I wouldn't wish re-watching that offense on my worst enemy. Godspeed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: I like to see what other players and fans say about their departed coaches. Here is a cool response by NE TE Bennett http://patriotswire.usatoday.com/2017/01/05/martellus-bennett-talks-cake-playoffs-and-brian-daboll-who-could-replace-josh-mcdaniels/ Talk about counting your OCs before they hatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bangarang said: We have Shady and.......not really much else on offense. How optimistic can we realistically about this if he’s failed with little talent but is coming to a team with little talent? They also have Clay and Benjamin as established targets and a return to a power run scheme that the OL excels at will help the run game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 42 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Did McD jump Belicheck?? its that 24D Chess I keep hearing so much about from SaviorPeterman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I just hope our passing game doesn't disappear. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, hemma said: Wow. Never thought I would ever see a guy that played for and graduated from the University of Rochester ascend to these heights. Some U of R games have < 100 people watching. We are UR! They went 8-0 my freshmen year and I helped organize the playoff bus to the playoff game. We had tons of people at the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricko1112 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 hour ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I like that this isn’t another re-tread coordinator who’s tried and failed in the NFL. Might be great to get a new perspective There were some rumors that Daboll might replace Josh McDaniels next season. Good hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, stevewin said: Talk about counting your OCs before they hatch I still think it may be a sign NE is about to have major changes. Why wouldn't he just take over for McDaniels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 https://247sports.com/college/alabama/Article/Business-oriented-Brian-Daboll-brings-organization-to-Alabama-Cr-105832491 Saban, having both worked under Belichick and hired Daboll, agreed. “We want to be well-organized in our presentations and how we teach the players,” he said. “I think conceptually that helps players understand and learn more efficiently and effectively. And, of all the people that I’ve ever been with, Bill Belichick probably does this as well as anybody. For Brian to have been in that system and that organization for a long time, I think, is reflected in his organization and in his teaching progressions that he has for the players.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crowing Rooster Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, McBean said: How the heck can anybody hate this hire? The guy coached under the 2 greatest coaches of all time in BB and Saban. Young and innovative. Incredible some of you that are mad. That's because you got some people on this board that can't be pleased. The Bills could hand out free gold bricks and they still would find some way to complain about them Edited January 15, 2018 by The Monk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bangarang Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: They also have Clay and Benjamin as established targets and a return to a power run scheme that the OL excels at will help the run game. It all comes down to QB. If we keep Tyrod, sign another vet or start a rookie. I just want to get with the times and have an OC design an offense around what his guys do well and not jam a system down their throats Edited January 14, 2018 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, BillsEnthusiast said: its that 24D Chess I keep hearing so much about from SaviorPeterman What is wrong with me??? I read that as saviorpeterman wears a 24D..... yikes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaskerTough Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I like: Pats Knowledge TE coach so, especially Gronk knowledge. Should know this year's QB class pretty well Just facilitated the best mid-game adjustment in Football history. watch the scheme he put together for Tua. Yes, please. Born on a Rockpile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 19 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: Playing to their strengths. Very Simple. Tyrod sucks at intermediate passing, has (had) a decent deep ball and is best scrambling. We have arguably one of the BEST rushing attacks in the NFL. Rather than force Tyrod to be a pocket passer, do like Chan did and use more roll outs and bubble screens. The reason I like this hire is I feel like from what he has done historically is more up my alley than Rico. He has more of an adaptive skill set. If he keeps Taylor as his QB his career here will be short lived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Good round head. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Basic human thinking? And he’s had 4 years of OC experience. Last being 6 years ago. During that time he’s “failed miserably” with the following teams and QB’s... Cleveland - Brady Quinn, Derek Anderson and Jake Delhomme Miami - Matt Moore, Chad Henne, JP Losman KC - Matt Cassel, Brady Quinn again. My point is that you don’t know anything. clear? So Mr Fixit thinks you should drink the kool aid so you're not allowed to have an opinion. 0nly experts are allowed to have opinions. Looked it up we can celebrate turns out he only coached the 46th worst offense in the history of the NFL at 13.2 ppg so my guess is we'll have to take the starters out by the 3rd qtr vs the Pats next year. http://mcubed.net/nfl/ptlpfpg.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, dezertbill said: I just hope our passing game doesn't disappear. Nice! Didn't you hear? Daboll does not throw the ball........................wishbone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, Maine-iac said: So Mr Fixit thinks you should drink the kool aid so you're not allowed to have an opinion. 0nly experts are allowed to have opinions. Looked it up we can celebrate turns out he only coached the 46th worst offense in the history of the NFL at 13.2 ppg so my guess is we'll have to take the starters out by the 3rd qtr vs the Pats next year. http://mcubed.net/nfl/ptlpfpg.shtml Read further. Mr Fixit should be the only one writing words. Stop wasting your time wasting my time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, dezertbill said: I like the move. He has a history of winning. Five Super Bowls, and a national championship his first year. He has coached under the greatest HC in pro and college (Belichick and Saban) so he understands detail, preparation, winning, and never letting the foot off the pedal. HIs past Pro OC experience does give pause, especially since the passing game on the teams he OC were horrible. But he also had horrible teams (CLE, KC) who had horrible QBs that are all either backups or out of the league. He was still able to rank 5th in rushing for a 2-14 KC team with Matt Cassel at QB. That's how you cut your teeth as a first time coordinator, getting your butt kicked on a crappy team with crappy talent) I'm sure he has learned from that experience as well since it's been five years ago. Since that time he's won a few more rings with NE and was tabbed by the greatest college coach to run his offense. This guy was next in line for the Patriots OC job. Bills snuck in and stole him before McDaniels could make his decision. He was also Nick Saban's selection to replace Lane Kiffin. My thoughts are if this guy is good enough to be considered OC by storied franchises such as Belichick/Patriots and Saban/Alabama) than I believe the Bills made the right move here. I would rather do this then hire a retread like McCoy or Chud, both of whom really hadn't done much to write home about over the last five years. I say go outside the box and strive for greatness. That's what champions do. Go Bills! I like this post, and I agree 100%. You knew it was going to go to someone that McD had a prior connection with (as it should), but I'm glad to see it go to someone younger. He has enough experience to give you confidence, but not enough previous OC jobs in the NFL where you feel like you're getting a guy who's just laterally failing around the league. It also seems like his previous OC gigs were in no-win situations, and never had the time to develop with the roster. I'd be more concerned if he'd stayed with the Browns, Dolphins, or Chiefs for 3 years and never got it going. I'm optimistic, and assuming he's not complete garbage at his job, I'd like to see him get more than one season, for simple continuity alone if nothing else. Edited January 14, 2018 by LA Grant 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Havent got ONE other than he worked with Saban and BB. So what are his concepts. Whats his play design like, how does he look to develop a QB. How IS he better Why is it you always no more than everyone else?! At times you know more than NFL coaching staffs and FOs... like here. Do you know what a contrarian is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ricko1112 said: There were rumors that he might have been Josh McDaniels' replacement next year. Good hire. Looked like it before he headed to Alabama... http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots/2017/01/brian_daboll_ready_to_step_in_to_lead_the_patriots_offense Edited January 14, 2018 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 22 minutes ago, SDS said: Where are you a big follower of the Browns, Dolphins and Chiefs during those glory years? Did you watch those games unimpressed with his offense and play calling? Nice comeback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: So Mr Fixit thinks you should drink the kool aid so you're not allowed to have an opinion. 0nly experts are allowed to have opinions. Looked it up we can celebrate turns out he only coached the 46th worst offense in the history of the NFL at 13.2 ppg so my guess is we'll have to take the starters out by the 3rd qtr vs the Pats next year. http://mcubed.net/nfl/ptlpfpg.shtml If the Bills scored 13.2 last week they’d have won, just sayin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) Bring in Jalen Hurts ? Edited January 14, 2018 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, SDS said: We are UR! They went 8-0 my freshmen year and I helped organize the playoff bus to the playoff game. We had tons of people at the games. It has been a couple of years since I went to a Homecoming game. Blows my mind a U of R player/grad is the Bills OC. Good stuff. I double hope he does well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 17 minutes ago, hemma said: Wow. Never thought I would ever see a guy that played for and graduated from the University of Rochester ascend to these heights. Some U of R (Division III) games have < 100 people watching. Hey, RIT doesn't even have a football team anymore (wasn't much when they had one either) but we still churned out tom coughlin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, chris heff said: If the Bills scored 13.2 last week they’d have won, just sayin. Well your in luck then. He's your coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 hours ago, CNY315 said: Hate it. What's the scoop on him? How can you hate it if you don't know anything about him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: Why is it you always no more than everyone else?! At times you know more than NFL coaching staffs and FOs... like here. Do you know what a contrarian is? Do you know what a debate is? an Opposing View is? and how lazy it is to say NFL coaches and FO know everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Hey, RIT doesn't even have a football team anymore (wasn't much when they had one either) but we still churned out tom coughlin. I've lived in Rochester for 37 years and I didn't even know that. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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