MILFHUNTER#518 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Four years of Results in the NFL level at OC should give anyone pause add in another OC never to play the position of QB He doesn't force players into his system, he tailors his system to his players. That is my big takeaway from all that I am reading. Total 180 from Dennison. 3 of those 4 years as OC were for $hit teams, and he didn't get fired from one of them. In fact, from what I can gather, he has NEVER been fired from a pro job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, Magox said: Crusading. You do that quite a bit, as a matter of fact you are a habitual serial crusader. But that's neither here nor there. I'm not in favor of banning people. Where am i crusading. Most of my posts actually are defending myself against callouts or repsonding to people. I actually have made very little comments on the hire initially but dont post a negative comment then everyone comes at you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I swear, the Bills could hire the reincarnated Paul Brown and people here would still B word about it. Just incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: One thing that needs to be said is that in Daboll's previous stops as OC, two of them were under two very crappy offensive HC who stuck their mitts all over the offense, Mangenius and Tony Sporano. So it's hard to even blame him for much of it. The one time with a defensive HC, Romeo Crennell in KC, unsurprisingly he had a good run game (Jamaal Charles) and a crappy passing game (the floundering Matt Cassel). Ah okay, that makes sense. I haven't looked into it yet but this begins to answer my major question when glancing at Daboll's resume -- why was he bounced from so many NFL teams after one season? Seems like he kept finding himself in no-win situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Did McD jump Belicheck?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, PastaJoe said: Nothing matters until we know who the QB will be. Does hiring a coach from college indicate they intend to draft and start a rookie QB? This actually leads me to believe they are going after a vet they plan on starting in the short term. I think they still draft a guy high to bring along though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I have Said i hope i am wrong. Jesus for people that nitpick my postings they really never read them You missed the point entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Been with losing and unsuccessful ones as wel At least he can differentiate whether he's doing good or not then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: One thing that needs to be said is that in Daboll's previous stops as OC, two of them were under two very crappy offensive HC who stuck their mitts all over the offense, Mangenius and Tony Sporano. So it's hard to even blame him for much of it. The one time with a defensive HC, Romeo Crennell in KC, unsurprisingly he had a good run game (Jamaal Charles) and a crappy passing game (the floundering Matt Cassel). Decent pts Kelly... Can he develop a rookie QB? This is prob my biggest concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Bills hire Brian Daboll from Alabama as OC before Patriots can bring him back in fold Nick Saban's coordinator is now working with Sean McDermott in Buffalo by Will Brinson @WillBrinson 5m ago • 1 min read There was a good chance Brian Daboll was going to end up back in the NFL after doing an outstanding job coordinating the Alabama Crimson Tide's offense this season. And he did, but he ended up on a different AFC East team than anyone expected, joining the Buffalo Bills as their offensive coordinator. The team announced the move on Sunday afternoon That was an awesome article. B!tch slapping the Patricheats by taking their guy!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, baskin said: So any success he has had does not count.... Maybe if it was a huge success on offense. We did hire him as an offensive coordinator. Alabama had the best defense. We didn't hire him to coach defense. In three stints in the NFL he's averaged 17 points. Dennison in his worst season did better than that. Rumors that he might get hired here or there pretty much mean nothing. When he's been an 0C he's done nothing. What is the logic that would lead one to believe a guy who averages 17 ppg is going to take a group that averaged 19ppg and get it to score anywhere near enough to beat Brady? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Did McD jump Belicheck?? Yes he did, sir. Yes he did... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, PastaJoe said: Nothing matters until we know who the QB will be. Does hiring a coach from college indicate they intend to draft and start a rookie QB? , Normally I would say yes, but Daboll was only at Bama for one year, so he wasn't involved in all of the recruiting etc. Alabama did not play against any of the top quarterbacks in this year's draft. The only quarterback to beat Bama this year? Jarrett Stidham who is going back to Auburn next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: But if its such a great Hire wouldnt they know a little about him? It’s impossible for you to just let things play out huh? It’s got to be determined in January if he’s a great hire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: Very valid point. A counter-point makes for a better conversation. I am not drinking the kool aid, but I like thehire based on what I saw a young, raw team in Alabama do with a QB that had a noodle arm and was softer than a down pillow. Once he had his QB in place, things opened up and it was a juggernaut on O. Get him a middle-of-the-pack starter and I am excited. Get him a franchis QB (I'm looking at you Mr Cousins) and we are looking at a contender. Just my opinion. Ok now i get that and can offer a counter to that as well. The issue i have with any (not just Daboll) OF coming from the college ranks is it is easier to design and call offenses for the college game. Because really of the hashes and the athletic differences from players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Real McCoy said: Decent pts Kelly... Can he develop a rookie QB? This is prob my biggest concern. So many elements go into the development of a rookie or young QB that to me it's impossible to really gauge it. Obviously, the rookie has to have elite talent. Less than a third of them do. They have to be coachable, extremely hard workers, have playmakers around them and blockers in front of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Billschinatown said: I like tight ends that didn't play for the Patriots. what?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 hour ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Learned under Saban and Belicheck? I like the pedigree. No offense, but when has that proven to be successful? Without Brady, at best Houston HC has been ok. Others have been failures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, Lfod said: You let people get in your head and stir you up man. You don't always have to defend your opinion. People disagree sometimes. I said Tyrod was a back up once and that's all I could see him as. I got a paragraph response in opposition I never responded too. I've seen you get targeted and grouped up on but you also have made yourself a big target by being the loudest. Like whoever is the loudest wins the argument. I get it. But i am trained to fight. So when people want to try and gang and corner they get to see the cornered dog attack. But then just report me for crusading or whatever that is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I call bullsh*t on all of these reports. Dundick Chad says "we" didn't report this. It's lies I tell you, all lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 22 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Joe DeFillipino Chud Bevell and no its not that i dont like the hire. There was NO need to rush to hire Brian Daboll. And yes i get sick of the well great hire worked with BB and Saban crap pretty easy. If your gonna scream great hire have some real substance Good names except for bevell. I don't think they rushed it because they wanted him last year(he wasn't blocked from coming here). I'm not thrilled but I'm not disappointed either. I will wait to see the staff changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: I get it. But i am trained to fight. So when people want to try and gang and corner they get to see the cornered dog attack. But then just report me for crusading or whatever that is. Yawn. You are one of 1000 “I’m just trying to talk football- why is everyone picking on me?“ guys that have come through here the last two decades. I can assure you, 100% of the time, whenever someone posts “it’s everybody else not me” – it is always that person. Always. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, SDS said: The manner in which you choose to discuss topics is highly disruptive, highly repetitive, and unnecessarily grating to other community members. Honestly, I’m literally the last person who hasn’t voted to pull the plug. No one here is required to prove anything to you but you continue to needlessly berate them. Well guess what, this is a Buffalo Bills fan community. It is not unreasonable for members to see the bright side of situations. It is not unreasonable for people to be hopeful. Its also not unreasonable for people not to like every single thing either is it? Is asking a question to someone that quotes me is wrong or berating people really should see what happens to Chad when he posts. I am sure the same people that go after him and bait me are the same ones sending then reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, H2o said: I call bullsh*t on all of these reports. Dundick Chad says "we" didn't report this. It's lies I tell you, all lies. It’s time to move on and discuss Buffalo Bills football. Thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, SDS said: Yawn. You are one of 1000 “I’m just trying to talk football- why is everyone picking on me?“ guys that have come through here the last two decades. I can assure you, 100% of the time, whenever someone posts “it’s everybody else not me” – it is always that person. Always. Ha. True everywhere. Every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just read this guy is only 42. Got his 1st OC job at 34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 31 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: So HOW IS THIS WORSE than Dennison? See what I did there? Point is, you don't know if it is or isn't better because he hasn't call ed his first game yet with the Bills. Neither do I. I'm taking a wait and see approach and am hoping that he does well. You're talking in absolutes that he will be worse which is blatantly ridiculous. You would've been the first one screaming from the mountaintop had they retained Dennison. Fact is, you're not happy unless you have something to complain about whether legit or not. Even SDS called you out in this thread. I do not know if it will be better or not - he sounds like a great teacher which is very important to McD. He also has cut his teeth with some of the best coaches in the world and that is important. Where I will agree with Maj is based upon his history as OC he is worse than Dennison. His rankings in both passing and points are lower than Dennisons and he really showed very little most of the year at Alabama. I understand that he has had garbage at QB to work with, but so has Dennison and at least Dennison has had some success as an NFL OC. So we can all sit and argue whether he will be better or not. Since he has not developed any QBs at any levels - this makes the hiring of a QB coach that much more important. I think Daboll will be fine, but he is not the guy I want developing my young QB. If they get a nice QB coach then this hire will matter less, but if they do not get someone to develop the QB - then this hire was probably a mistake. That is my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: Ha. True everywhere. Every time. Even at 1600 Pennsytucky Ave... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Welcome to the Buffalo Bills AJ McCarron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Its also not unreasonable for people not to like every single thing either is it? Is asking a question to someone that quotes me is wrong or berating people really should see what happens to Chad when he posts. I am sure the same people that go after him and bait me are the same ones sending then reports. Absolutely. It’s everyone else. It’s not you at all. Despite the fact there have been people posting here for decades and have tens of thousands of posts everyone has decided to unnecessarily choose you to pick on. It’s their fault. You bear no responsibility. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SDS said: It’s time to move on and discuss Buffalo Bills football. Thank you. That was my point on how I see people gang up. Just that when your the loudest you get the most attention. Big targets easy to hit. Edited January 14, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: He doesn't force players into his system, he tailors his system to his players. That is my big takeaway from all that I am reading. Total 180 from Dennison. 3 of those 4 years as OC were for $hit teams, and he didn't get fired from one of them. In fact, from what I can gather, he has NEVER been fired from a pro job... I do like tailoring to a players skill set. But can i ask you what that means to you? Is it limiting your systems to fit a player. Or chaning little nueances to fit a player (ala chan to Stevie. I dont care how you get there but you have to be at this depth by this point) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Neither excited nor dismayed, just curious. He was not successful as an OC in prior gigs. But that was years ago in crappy situations. I wonder how much he learned since then under Belichick and Saban, and during those years when he had a chance to reflect on how he might do it differently if he had the chance to be a NFL OC again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: I do like tailoring to a players skill set. But can i ask you what that means to you? Is it limiting your systems to fit a player. Or chaning little nueances to fit a player (ala chan to Stevie. I dont care how you get there but you have to be at this depth by this point) Take a breath, you have all year to learn about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 So what kind of offense does this guy run? What does he like to do? Im obviously very underwhelmed by this hire but I’d at least like to know what I will be watching on Sundays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, SDS said: Absolutely. It’s everyone else. It’s not you at all. Despite the fact there have been people posting here for decades and have tens of thousands of posts everyone has decided to unnecessarily choose you to pick on. It’s their fault. You bear no responsibility. Yeah thats EXACTLY what I posted said. I get it its the good ole boy system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Welcome to the Buffalo Bills AJ McCarron. These posts are a riot. Daboll has been at Alabama for one year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 18 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Bills hire Brian Daboll from Alabama as OC before Patriots can bring him back in fold Nick Saban's coordinator is now working with Sean McDermott in Buffalo by Will Brinson @WillBrinson 5m ago • 1 min read There was a good chance Brian Daboll was going to end up back in the NFL after doing an outstanding job coordinating the Alabama Crimson Tide's offense this season. And he did, but he ended up on a different AFC East team than anyone expected, joining the Buffalo Bills as their offensive coordinator. The team announced the move on Sunday afternoon You do understand that this is still speculation, right? He's hired, hope he knows what he's doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: So what kind of offense does this guy run? What does he like to do? Im obviously very underwhelmed by this hire but I’d at least like to know what I will be watching on Sundays. How are you underwhelmed if you don't know his philosophy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, SWATeam said: These posts are a riot. Daboll has been at Alabama for one year How about his wife? Can we get her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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