BuffaloRush Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Over the past 17 years of very bad moments and sometimes equally bad players, it me wonder who was the best Bills player that should have received more fame and notoriety, but instead get overlooked given the Bills dreadful performance over the past 19 years. Here's a few options: Eric Moulds Eric played in the Bills two playoffs games but the majority of his career was spent in Buffalo during the drought era. His numbers are stellars when he had a decent QB (Bledsoe and/or Flutie) and still had good numbers with bad QB's. It always made me wonder what Moulds could have done in a good offense with a top QB. I think he could have been a household name - he had some serious athletic ability. Lee Evans I think that Lee was a very underrated receiver. He played nearly his entire career in Buffalo with some very bad QB's and yet he was still very productive. Like Moulds above, I always wondered what could have been if Lee was on a team with a good QB. Aaron Schobel Schobel was one of the NFL most productive edge rushers for a few seasons in the mid 2000's but hardly anyone paid attention to him in the Buffalo market. It seemed like that could have gotten to later on his career, as it appeared he was mailing it in. But still a great pass rushers in his day. Fred Jackson Bills fans all know Fred's story. A leader at RB who had great ability and excellent in all three facets of playing the position - running, catching, and blocking. Fred was very productive on some atrocious teams and never really seemed to get attention in the league until the Patriots victory in 2011. Kyle Williams Another players that doesn't get enough credit playing on a very bad football team. While his best days are behind him, at one time you could make the argument that Kyle was one of the top performers at the position in a 4-3 defense. Those are my choices - how about yours? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevnallen Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Marshawn Lynch, Jason Peters 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Puff Daddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills fan since 87 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Takeo Spikes 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Reminiscing about the good times again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, kevnallen said: Marshawn Lynch, Jason Peters I don't think these are good candidates. Both went on to have very good careers with other teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Over the past 17 years of very bad moments and sometimes equally bad players, it me wonder who was the best Bills player that should have received more fame and notoriety, but instead get overlooked given the Bills dreadful performance over the past 19 years. Here's a few options: Eric Moulds Eric played in the Bills two playoffs games but the majority of his career was spent in Buffalo during the drought era. His numbers are stellars when he had a decent QB (Bledsoe and/or Flutie) and still had good numbers with bad QB's. It always made me wonder what Moulds could have done in a good offense with a top QB. I think he could have been a household name - he had some serious athletic ability. Lee Evans I think that Lee was a very underrated receiver. He played nearly his entire career in Buffalo with some very bad QB's and yet he was still very productive. Like Moulds above, I always wondered what could have been if Lee was on a team with a good QB. Aaron Schobel Schobel was one of the NFL most productive edge rushers for a few seasons in the mid 2000's but hardly anyone paid attention to him in the Buffalo market. It seemed like that could have gotten to later on his career, as it appeared he was mailing it in. But still a great pass rushers in his day. Fred Jackson Bills fans all know Fred's story. A leader at RB who had great ability and excellent in all three facets of playing the position - running, catching, and blocking. Fred was very productive on some atrocious teams and never really seemed to get attention in the league until the Patriots victory in 2011. Kyle Williams Another players that doesn't get enough credit playing on a very bad football team. While his best days are behind him, at one time you could make the argument that Kyle was one of the top performers at the position in a 4-3 defense. Those are my choices - how about yours? Im pretty sure marshawn was pretty wasted during his whole stint here he loved Hennessy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Only 3 years, but shady is by far the most “wasted” talent imo. Eric Moulds was insanely talented but I feel the Shady is the most elite talent we’ve had on this team during the drought. Jason Peters is a close second but he wasn’t really wasted on the Bills. The Bills gave him a chance to become a HoFer playing for a different team. Shady is a definite future HoFer imo. An elite back wasting his final prime years for a team without a passing attack. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 To the OP: funny you make a thread on this topic; I was just thinking about this exact sort of concept about 24 hours ago, and I was thinking specifically of Kyle Williams. Guy has a nice long career with 1 team, gives it everything he has, and what will he have to show for it when it's all over? Nothing! Well, he will have a pile of money, but nothing lasting from a football accomplishment perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Why isn't Kyle Orton on that list? 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Punters are people too. Brain Moorman (2001-2013) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Lesean freaking HOF McCoy 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Just now, Elite Poster said: Lesean freaking HOF McCoy First one that popped into my head... When he has a half competent O-line he's easily a top 3 RB. Even with the island of misfits O-line he is 6th in the league when it comes to total rushing yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) Fred and Kyle. Fred should have retired a Bill. Edited December 7, 2017 by GreggTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Mccoy, lynch, Watkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I think that the best player that the Bills had in that time was Jason Peters. I think that he is a HOF player. I would say that the guy that suffered the most is Kyle Williams though. He’s been a great player and had it the roughest for a long period of time. Good topic!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Kyle Williams is a hall of fame player for NE. Think of Marshawn Lynch. His off field trouble gets him into the Hall. Had he stayed in Buffalo he would be just another good RB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Kyle Williams would have been a HOFer anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Freddy was a folk hero/NFLE rescue. Not a great talent but a great guy. Lynch wasn't in Buffalo, the RB he became in SEA. Kyle probably got several more years out of his career because he was in Buffalo.. Peters...meh, a LT. Who knows. People go on about LTs but look at Joe Thomas---Cleveland was no better off with him and they passed on Adrian Peterson to get a LT than was part of an O-line that saw like 5 QBs get knocked out games in a month stretch couple of years ago. Went and the Eagles are barreling along just fine without "HOF" Peters. McCoy maybe--but he hasn't been here long enough I think (his best years have been in Philly). Sammy Watkins? That's funny right there... I laughed at the "we ran Dareus out of town", as well as the Mario mention. I'd have to say....Jim Kelly. If Jimmy Johnson had been the Bills coach----4 rings.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Kyle Williams is going to be on the wall of fame one day. And he’ll have nothing else to show for his efforts unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Robert Woods- he's not doing too bad with the Rams this year. Chris Hogan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Tyrod Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Drew Bledsoemuch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 TKO was my first thought - then I also thought of London Fletcher. Gave up his best football playing years here - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Three years ago I thought Kyle was done with the foot problems he had. Now he is a wall of fame guy and the answer to your question. However Schobel was far better than most on here give him credit and not that far behind Kyle. Certainly had more impact plays than Kyle but not as consistent. Peters is the best talent this team has had in 20 years. Had he stayed he would have been behind only OJ, Kelly, Thurman, and Bruce Smith in the conversation of best Bills ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Im pretty sure marshawn was pretty wasted during his whole stint here he loved Hennessy Nice. I say Kyle, no doubt. Way more years at a high level. Jason Peters a distant second? No one seemed to miss him at the time, don't know why. Moulds was super fun to watch, better than Lee Evans but shorter stint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 My first thought is nobody was wasted. We really didn't have a standout. But, if I had to pick a wasted talent due to a poor team, coach or plan, I would pick either.......... Shady or Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, BuffaloRush said: I don't think these are good candidates. Both went on to have very good careers with other teams Peters spent a while at Buffalo, seemed like he made every pro bowl since starting. How was he ever a tight end? he's huge. Edited December 7, 2017 by PetermanThrew5Picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Lee Evans shouldn't be on the list. He just wasn't a very good player. More of a one trick pony. And he could only do that trick for a few years. If he was good he would have stuck around beyond age 30. He only played 8 seasons in the NFL and I don't believe he retired due to injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Lee Evans shouldn't be on the list. He just wasn't a very good player. More of a one trick pony. And he could only do that trick for a few years. If he was good he would have stuck around beyond age 30. He only played 8 seasons in the NFL and I don't believe he retired due to injury. A healthy Goodwin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I think if that's the best five guys we can come up with in nearly 20 years, we know why the drought has gone on so long! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 6 hours ago, BuffaloRush said: I don't think these are good candidates. Both went on to have very good careers with other teams ..........and neither one of them even wanted to be here anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood for Wall of Fame Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Jeff Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 7 hours ago, kevnallen said: Marshawn Lynch, Jason Peters Beastmode was always wasted,thats why he was traded 5 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Peters spent a while at Buffalo, seemed like he made every pro bowl since starting. How was he ever a tight end? he's huge. Practise squad where he was fed steroids and steak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Fred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Is anyone else baffled at the amount of times Watkins has come up? Physically gifted for sure, but he is on pace for 41 catches this year. Kyle Williams is the main guy for this. Spikes and McCoy would be the other two but both played in other cities and made it to the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 6 hours ago, bobobonators said: Kyle Williams is going to be on the wall of fame one day. And he’ll have nothing else to show for his efforts unfortunately. He made a couple Pro Bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I don't know about Schoebel. I don't recall him ever coming up big when we needed a big play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Kyle Williams/thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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