The death of the Buffalo Bills Message Board - how did it happen?

[BuffaloRush]

It's been quite some time since the Buffalo Bills Message Board was shut down.  In fact, that's how I landed here.  My question is - how did it all go down.  From my understanding the moderators were all volunteers and the head moderator was named Z-man.    How they became moderators and who made them moderators?  I have no idea.  I believe that Chris Brown oversaw the BBMB at one time but had very limited involvement with it. 

 

From what I can surmise, the board went down very shortly after Derek Boyko was hired.  So my guess is that he evaluated the website and decided the website had to go.  Clearly this was one area that Scott Berchtold must have not really paid much attention to.  

 

All I know is that one day, I went to log in and then there was a message that it was gone.

 

Here are my questions:

 

- Who was from the Bills organization was responsible for the BBMB?

- Who picked the moderators?

- Did anyone from the Bills even know or care that the BBMB existed?

- Who were the moderators exactly?

- How did the death of the BBMB occur and why was the decision made?

 -Who made the call and how were the moderators notified?

 

So many questions - but hopefully with the knowledge of this board we can get some answers.  I am really loving Two Bills Drive by the way.  Way better people and better conversation overall

[jr1]

Terry's cheap

[jimmy10]

How did it happen? Not quickly enough. 

[fansince88]

I heard from a reliable source that Billy Buffalo was involved.

[JinxedBill1]

I don't miss it.  A lot of the same craziness is here now and the message board operating system is better here.

[Patrick Duffy]

I'm not sure, but I was told that the mods there were taking advantage of their power and just banning people for no reason on a regular basis. Made any new comers feel unwelcomed and what not. But I'm not totally sure, just passing what I heard it to be. You probably will never really find out to be honest. In any event, this site is much, much better.

[BuffaloRush]

1 minute ago, Patrick_Duffy said:

I'm not sure, but I was told that the mods there were taking advantage of their power and just banning people for no reason on a regular basis. Made any new comers feel unwelcomed and what not. But I'm not totally sure, just passing what I heard it to be. You probably will never really find out to be honest. In any event, this site is much, much better.

Well yeah I know.  There are a lot of people here from the old board and I'm sure some mods as well.  It seems like being a BBMB moderator is like being in a secret society like the Stone Cutters.  You never hear anything about it

[Patrick Duffy]

Just now, BuffaloRush said:

Well yeah I know.  There are a lot of people here from the old board and I'm sure some mods as well.  It seems like being a BBMB moderator is like being in a secret society like the Stone Cutters.  You never hear anything about it

 

Yeah, a few of them were !@#$s, so I can see it if that was the case, but anyways I'm perfectly happy getting all the info I need here.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

they didn't like you. like they don't here either, look down on refugees. nobody from here has any care in the world and wished it never happened.

 

you had to make this thread, didn't you. arm yourself for some of the posts that will be slinging at you.

 

frankly though, I'm glad they shut it down. it was a real cesspool toward the end of its existence.

 

edit: first two sentences I was being facetious (had to add that so I don't rile anyone up) 

Edited December 1, 2017 by DaBillsFanSince1973

[QB Bills]

Not sure how or why it happened but this site has gotten exponentially worse since it did.

[John from Riverside]

Let me put it to you this way.

 

When I posted there one day I said that Kim Pegula was very attractive and Terry was a lucky guy.

 

I was basically shhhhed by one of the mods saying that certain people (meaning the owners) read the site.

[BuffaloRush]

3 minutes ago, John from Hemet said:

Let me put it to you this way.

 

When I posted there one day I said that Kim Pegula was very attractive and Terry was a lucky guy.

 

I was basically shhhhed by one of the mods saying that certain people (meaning the owners) read the site.

Who was the mod?  It was my understanding that the BBMB was pretty much operated with little interference from within the organization.  I didn't think the mods had any real dialogue with any Bills employees.  That's why I don't even think Berchtold even knew about it

[SDS]

7 minutes ago, QB Bills said:

Not sure how or why it happened but this site has gotten exponentially worse since it did.

 

Disagree. A lot of good people have joined. A few others weren’t a god fit. No worries. ?

[buffaloboyinATL]

10 minutes ago, John from Hemet said:

Let me put it to you this way.

 

When I posted there one day I said that Kim Pegula was very attractive and Terry was a lucky guy.

 

I was basically shhhhed by one of the mods saying that certain people (meaning the owners) read the site.

Why is that offensive? I would be happy if someone said my wife was attractive and I was lucky to have her......because neither is true.

 

just kidding dear.    

[LABILLBACKER]

All I know is I'm very grateful to be here.  Wonder what ever happened to wyo or perfectspiral? This site is substantially better with less clutter.

[Kirby Jackson]

5 minutes ago, SDS said:

 

Disagree. A lot of good people have joined. A few others weren’t a god fit. No worries. ?

In hindsight Scott you did the right thing by not building the wall. Some of these refugees have added to the board. Like anything, there was some dead weight but in general it has worked. There was a growth period but I think everyone is comfortable at this point. It’s kept the board really active. 

[BringBackFergy]

BBMB closed right around the time when the Russians were in the news. Coincidence? I think not. 

[Luka]

The mods couldn't handle The 'But. Once they got tired of banning us, then they tried to be our friends. It all went downhill from there.

(For reference, it's like the Off the Wall forum here, only moderated by the FCC of mod groups.)

Edited December 1, 2017 by Luka

[Beast]

31 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said:

I'm not sure, but I was told that the mods there were taking advantage of their power and just banning people for no reason on a regular basis. Made any new comers feel unwelcomed and what not. But I'm not totally sure, just passing what I heard it to be. You probably will never really find out to be honest. In any event, this site is much, much better.

 

You mean Town and Country?

 

Worst human being that walked this planet. Worse than Hitler.

[BuffaloRush]

3 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said:

 

You mean Town and Country?

 

Worst human being that walked this planet. Worse than Hitler.

 

LOL you mean T & C?  Yeah I remember getting an infractions for doing absolutely nothing.

18 minutes ago, SDS said:

 

Disagree. A lot of good people have joined. A few others weren’t a god fit. No worries. ?

I like it here quite a bit.  People have been super cool for the most part.  Always good chatting with Bills fans

[dlonce]

This place has always been better,way better than that garbage board.

 

There were mostly casual Bills fans on the BBMB and many of them are here now (you can figure out who they are with their thoughts on who good QBs are)but there are some very knowledgeable Bills fans who made the move here.

 

I shake my head to this date when I think about the asinine arguments of how Peyton Manning was over the hill before going to Denver. The second Manning,and the reasons why he isn’t very good anymore are just as foolish. He will take a mediocre team to the promised land if he’s allowed to leave NY.

People,mostly these so called Bills fan,who have no vested interest in our team, know absolutely nothing about what a good QB looks like.

Edited December 1, 2017 by dlonce

[BuffBillsForLife]

As a BBMB refugee, this site is awesome and doesn't make me miss it one bit. 

[GoBills808]

12 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said:

 

You mean Town and Country?

 

Worst human being that walked this planet. Worse than Hitler.

It's sad that you're only slightly joking, too. Those guys were just terrible.

 

Good riddance.

[Chris Brown]

It was mostly my decision, and oh by the way you aren't missing anything.

[Jauronimo]

17 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

In hindsight Scott you did the right thing by not building the wall. Some of these refugees have added to the board. Like anything, there was some dead weight but in general it has worked. There was a growth period but I think everyone is comfortable at this point. It’s kept the board really active. 

The infusion of new blood has been a fresh of breath air.  Most of the refugees have integrated nicely and the ones that didn't provided welcome comedy relief in their brief stays here.  I can honestly say that I consider the BBMB boat people internet strangers that I can communicate with online in accordance with state and federal laws.

[aceman_16]

Actually I have it from an inside source that it was due to global warming. The electricty to host the servers was causing glaciers to melt.

[RaoulDuke79]

The best part is I can say "vague" here and not get blocked by the language filter.

[JohnC]

35 minutes ago, SDS said:

 

Disagree. A lot of good people have joined. A few others weren’t a god fit. No worries. ?

Since I have you here can I make a recommendation of numbering the posts so that one can go back to a particular response. Another issue I have is sometimes I'll get a notification of a response to a post and click on it. It doesn't always come up. 

 

I want you to know I appreciate your efforts in allowing this sometimes ruffian community to intermingle. 

 

Overall, the new posters are a positive addition and bring new energy to the old crowd. 

 

[YoloinOhio]

The majority of NFL organizations no longer have fan forums on the team website. The Bills were one of the last teams to get with the times. That’s likely why it coincides with Boyko coming on board. Teams are pushing all fan interaction to social media. And every team has fan forums and blog sites separate from the team page anyway. 

Edited December 1, 2017 by YoloinOhio

[Steptide]

Ahh the good old days of the bbmb. How I miss the glory days of the board crashing after breaking news or a big loss. Or members such as saviour Edwards who I'm pretty sure was trent Edwards himself or a very close relative/friend. 

[Captain Murica]

28 minutes ago, BuffBillsForLife said:

As a BBMB refugee, this site is awesome and doesn't make me miss it one bit. 

Exactly how I feel.

[LeGOATski]

36 minutes ago, Chris Brown said:

It was mostly my decision, and oh by the way you aren't missing anything.

Thanks for all you do. 

 

?

[frostbitmic]

I believe Boyko had it shut down because of the negativity on the site. Of course that happens with nearly two decades of failure.

 

I don't get the hate for the mods over there tho, they had a thankless job and had to deal with people trying to push their buttons on a non stop basis.

 

There were a lot of good posters over there and a lot of them made the switch over here and there were a ton of good posters here already. There were also a lot of bad posters there and thankfully not all of them made it over here. Maybe some had already been banned here before infecting the BBMB.

 

I'm glad that this site is here though and thank those running it so us fans have a place to talk about our team.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 1, 2017 by frostbitmic

[Patrick Duffy]

2 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said:

 

You mean Town and Country?

 

Worst human being that walked this planet. Worse than Hitler.

Yes, that one and the standing buffalo foreskin. They were the worst.

[Shaw66]

2 hours ago, BuffaloRush said:

It's been quite some time since the Buffalo Bills Message Board was shut down.  In fact, that's how I landed here.  My question is - how did it all go down.  From my understanding the moderators were all volunteers and the head moderator was named Z-man.    How they became moderators and who made them moderators?  I have no idea.  I believe that Chris Brown oversaw the BBMB at one time but had very limited involvement with it. 

 

From what I can surmise, the board went down very shortly after Derek Boyko was hired.  So my guess is that he evaluated the website and decided the website had to go.  Clearly this was one area that Scott Berchtold must have not really paid much attention to.  

 

All I know is that one day, I went to log in and then there was a message that it was gone.

 

Here are my questions:

 

- Who was from the Bills organization was responsible for the BBMB?

A guy named Gregg Pastore

2 hours ago, BuffaloRush said:

- Who picked the moderators?

I think the other mods with Gregg's approval. 

2 hours ago, BuffaloRush said:

- Did anyone from the Bills even know or care that the BBMB existed?

They didn't care much. I think they considered it a nuisance.  It just caused problems.  Didn't earn any money. 

 

2 hours ago, BuffaloRush said:

- Who were the moderators exactly?

It varied overr time. Mods dropped out, became disinterested. I think once in a while Gregg wouldn't move a nod if he thought the mod wasn't doing a good job. 

2 hours ago, BuffaloRush said:

- How did the death of the BBMB occur and why was the decision made?

I think they just got tired of it and someone decided it was time. I don't think any event caused it.  

2 hours ago, BuffaloRush said:

 -Who made the call and how were the moderators notified?

Don't know who made the decision.  I was a mod and wasn't notified. There was usually a volunteer mad who was in touch with Gregg more than others and whoever that was may have gotten advance notice.  I don't know.

 

[Gugny]

10 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

A guy named Gregg Pastore

I think the other mods with Gregg's approval. 

They didn't care much. I think they considered it a nuisance.  It just caused problems.  Didn't earn any money. 

 

It varied overr time. Mods dropped out, became disinterested. I think once in a while Gregg wouldn't move a nod if he thought the mod wasn't doing a good job. 

I think they just got tired of it and someone decided it was time. I don't think any event caused it.  

Don't know who made the decision.  I was a mod and wasn't notified. There was usually a volunteer mad who was in touch with Gregg more than others and whoever that was may have gotten advance notice.  I don't know.

 

 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/gpastore/

 

Guy's been with the Bills since 2002.  

[JM57]

6 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/gpastore/

 

Guy's been with the Bills since 2002.  

 

18 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

A guy named Gregg Pastore

I think the other mods with Gregg's approval. 

They didn't care much. I think they considered it a nuisance.  It just caused problems.  Didn't earn any money. 

 

It varied overr time. Mods dropped out, became disinterested. I think once in a while Gregg wouldn't move a nod if he thought the mod wasn't doing a good job. 

I think they just got tired of it and someone decided it was time. I don't think any event caused it.  

Don't know who made the decision.  I was a mod and wasn't notified. There was usually a volunteer mad who was in touch with Gregg more than others and whoever that was may have gotten advance notice.  I don't know.

 

I think the lesson here is never trust a 3G Gregg. 

[JimKellyTryouts]

1 hour ago, Steptide said:

Ahh the good old days of the bbmb. How I miss the glory days of the board crashing after breaking news or a big loss. Or members such as saviour Edwards who I'm pretty sure was trent Edwards himself or a very close relative/friend. 

 

SaviorPeterman's photo uses the exact same format as that one, and he posts in a similar manner. I'm all but convinced it's the same guy.

[Comebackkid]

I remember things were getting rediculously argumentative.  Wyo left before it crashed and burned.   A lot people migrated here before it crashed.  I don't know what happened to bumbles or his involvement.  

[Worstcaseontario]

I got a few perma bans on there